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    Really 1 incoming impact recruit. Wethington. This thread predicted Sheran as a maybe fourth liner. Pahl will be be a target in practice like May was. Scobee and Gulstene for 2 more years in the gopher net. Wondering what will happen with D'angleo. Two years without suiting up.

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    Thanks! Can I speculate that all these schools have more than 3 recruits in their incoming classes. Gophers have only 3 incoming.

    The loss of HUX tracking incoming commitments is a big loss that this forum has yet to recover from
    Colgate has 7 commits 5 forwards and 2 defense
    Clarkson has 6 commits, 3 forwards and 2 defense + 1 player listed as a forward or defense.

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    Clarkson has 6 commits, 3 forwards and 2 defense + 1 player listed as a forward or defense.
    Do you know what the Clarkson goaltending plan for the upcoming season is? Marie-Pier Coulombe, or maybe another transfer?

    Looking at the top seven teams from this year, any of whom could have been very close to the top, the teams hardest hit by graduation look to be BC, Clarkson and Wisconsin. BC's blue line goes from being a strength (or at least we presumed it would be), to quite raw. The Golden Knights lose an All-American goalie and six of their top 10 scorers (one being the reigning Kaz winner), including two D who played a lot. Wisconsin graduates two D, including their best one, and five of its top 10 scorers; the four graduating forwards totaled 539 points in their careers.

    The Gophers' seven graduating skaters totaled 436 points in their careers, with 403 of that production coming from the four who played sizable roles as seniors. I'd say they are the fourth-hardest hit of these seven teams.

    Cornell graduates its goalie, but does return some experience in net and its blue line returns intact. Up front, they lose three seniors who were more role players and combined for 151 points in their careers. If Browning can handle the starters role, the Big Red should be just fine.

    Northeastern loses Anderson and Sullivan, who combined for 199 points in their careers. Anderson was playing on the top line, but the Huskies should have the depth to weather that. On D, they lose the Hartman whose first name is spelled Maddie, and both backup goalies. Overall, the impact should be fairly minimal.

    Princeton's biggest losses are Lund (131 pts) up front and Sucharda on D. The Tigers also graduate a couple of role-playing forwards. They have some impact juniors to fill any leadership hole, so they should be fine as well.

    Overall, it looks like the field tightens up a bit, with Cornell having a more realistic hope of winning it all this year.

    As for Minnesota, I think the fans feel better about the D (returning a lot more experience) and goaltending than they did coming into the season. The forwards aren't as deep, but to a slight extent, they never quite achieved their full potential as a group. Williamson slumped late, and Pannek was inconsistent throughout. She had a few great weekends, but more where she seemed out of synch.

    I don't see one team where I think it is their title to lose, but I think these teams will be in the mix again. BC and Clarkson look to be the two whose chances take the biggest hit. Yes, they have top-ranked classes coming in, but I've also heard that this isn't as strong a class overall as the last couple were. We can add Colgate, Providence, BU, Ohio State, and UMD to the mix, and the winner is just about certain to come from those dozen teams.
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    It would be nice if Mankato caught up a little. That program hasn't had a winning season since 2004, and hasn't reached double digits in wins since 2014. I can remember the Gophers losing to the Mavericks, but I have to think back more than a decade. So more competition from Minnesota State would be a good thing for the league.

    I thought that was one of the strengths of this year's UM team. People like Oden and Skaja clearly deserved bigger roles, but they made the most of what they were given in any game. As for a comparison to the Gopher men, I think you're just throwing some random comment out there without any basis in fact. You'll have to offer some support, or I'll assume that you're just trolling.
    Agree. I think there has been some culture change albeit slow. Best scoring yet to come from underclassmen and some great recruits on the way. Goaltending has the potential to be best in WCHA. Hopefully the incoming D can continue to improve the blueline presence. But good things happening. Look for continued improvement on last year and some T's becoming W's.

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    Do you know what the Clarkson goaltending plan for the upcoming season is? Marie-Pier Coulombe, or maybe another transfer?

    Looking at the top seven teams from this year, any of whom could have been very close to the top, the teams hardest hit by graduation look to be BC, Clarkson and Wisconsin. BC's blue line goes from being a strength (or at least we presumed it would be), to quite raw. The Golden Knights lose an All-American goalie and six of their top 10 scorers (one being the reigning Kaz winner), including two D who played a lot. Wisconsin graduates two D, including their best one, and five of its top 10 scorers; the four graduating forwards totaled 539 points in their careers.

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    .......... BC and Clarkson look to be the two whose chances take the biggest hit. Yes, they have top-ranked classes coming in, but I've also heard that this isn't as strong a class overall as the last couple were. ......
    As for Clarkson's goaltending they have 2, Kia Castonguay (will be Jr) and Marie-Pier Coulombe (will be Soph). Castonguay did not play her Freshman year and started 1 game this year. Coulombe certainly has the pedigree based on her record with Limoilou. She started 3 games (one was the disasterous loss to Yale in which she was pulled) but she won the other 2 against Union giving up 1 total goals. Neither goalie is big (both are listed as 5' 5"). Since I am in Maryland I really know little about the goings on in Potsdam and usually find things out by reading the Clarkson Roundtable.

    Your last statement may apply to BC but it certainly does not apply to Clarkson when you discount the 2 grad transfers Cianfarano and Sauve. Take away Giguere from the to be Jr's and Sophs, the 6 forward recruits had a total of 12 goals this season.

    This freshman class with Veillette, David and McQuigge at forward would seem to provide much needed scoring depth. On defense Bernard, Markowski and Wisnewski will hopefully make up for the departed Pozzebon and Keenan and may allow Taylor Turnquist to shift to a forward position.

    The other big helper on offense and defense at the forward position will be the return of Rhyne McGill for her senior season from the surgery that kept her on the sidelines for 2018-2019.

    Making up for the loss of Gabel and Cianfarano up front and Sauve in goal will be the biggest issues facing Matt and his staff. IMHO, Cornell, and Colgate and Princeton will be the top 3 in the ECAC with Clarkson in 4th. Sorry to hijack the Minn thread. Back to our normal Minnesota station.
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    IMHO, Cornell, and Colgate and Princeton will be the top 3 in the ECAC with Clarkson in 4th. Sorry to hijack the Minn thread.
    You don't have to apologize for talking about hockey, even in the offseason. I'm not buying that a Colgate team that graduates four of its top five scorers will suddenly vault over Clarkson. IMO, the ECAC top three will be the Big Red, Tigers, and Golden Knights in some order.
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    HUGE loss for the Badgers, with Mark Johnson deciding to retire. Any clues as to who might replace him?
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    HUGE loss for the Badgers, with Mark Johnson deciding to retire. Any clues as to who might replace him?
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    HUGE loss for the Badgers, with Mark Johnson deciding to retire. Any clues as to who might replace him?
    I'm looking at the Wisconsin State Journal web site, and I see nothing of the sort. And nothing on Todd Milewski's twitter.

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    What is the date today anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KTDC View Post
    What is the date today anyway?
    I knew I wouldn't get it past KTDC!
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    I knew I wouldn't get it past KTDC!
    You were a gentleman about it putting it in the Gopher thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by KTDC View Post
    You were a gentleman about it putting it in the Gopher thread
    Just thought it'd be easier to "fool" a few Badger fans here, and more fun to "lure" a few Badger fans over. And with hockey season done I've been thinking about the "phishing" opener...
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    Quote Originally Posted by oggie View Post
    Really 1 incoming impact recruit. Wethington. This thread predicted Sheran as a maybe fourth liner. Pahl will be be a target in practice like May was. Scobee and Gulstene for 2 more years in the gopher net. Wondering what will happen with D'angleo. Two years without suiting up.
    Hey Oggie, stick to the Penn State thread and quit ripping on Gopher goalies because they didn't take your kid. You should be happy she's going somewhere instead of being jealous of other goalies. You're used to being jealous of other good goalies though, that's why you bounced around all over the place.

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    Too many BADger fans still in a thinner induced haze so your catch was minimal, D2D
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    HUGE loss for the Badgers, with Mark Johnson deciding to retire. Any clues as to who might replace him?
    Years ago someone on the men's side had the whole UW thread in an uproar over Mike Eaves leaving to coach the Devils. Ever since then, I am a bit wary of what I read on the internet.
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    Just a heads up she turned the gophers down.

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    Per Twitter former Gopher great, and current Whitecaps D Mira Jalosuo has been named as head coach of the Stillwater Ponies!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARM View Post
    Do you know what the Clarkson goaltending plan for the upcoming season is? Marie-Pier Coulombe, or maybe another transfer?

    Looking at the top seven teams from this year, any of whom could have been very close to the top, the teams hardest hit by graduation look to be BC, Clarkson and Wisconsin. BC's blue line goes from being a strength (or at least we presumed it would be), to quite raw. The Golden Knights lose an All-American goalie and six of their top 10 scorers (one being the reigning Kaz winner), including two D who played a lot. Wisconsin graduates two D, including their best one, and five of its top 10 scorers; the four graduating forwards totaled 539 points in their careers.

    The Gophers' seven graduating skaters totaled 436 points in their careers, with 403 of that production coming from the four who played sizable roles as seniors. I'd say they are the fourth-hardest hit of these seven teams.

    Cornell graduates its goalie, but does return some experience in net and its blue line returns intact. Up front, they lose three seniors who were more role players and combined for 151 points in their careers. If Browning can handle the starters role, the Big Red should be just fine.

    Northeastern loses Anderson and Sullivan, who combined for 199 points in their careers. Anderson was playing on the top line, but the Huskies should have the depth to weather that. On D, they lose the Hartman whose first name is spelled Maddie, and both backup goalies. Overall, the impact should be fairly minimal.

    Princeton's biggest losses are Lund (131 pts) up front and Sucharda on D. The Tigers also graduate a couple of role-playing forwards. They have some impact juniors to fill any leadership hole, so they should be fine as well.

    Overall, it looks like the field tightens up a bit, with Cornell having a more realistic hope of winning it all this year.

    As for Minnesota, I think the fans feel better about the D (returning a lot more experience) and goaltending than they did coming into the season. The forwards aren't as deep, but to a slight extent, they never quite achieved their full potential as a group. Williamson slumped late, and Pannek was inconsistent throughout. She had a few great weekends, but more where she seemed out of synch.

    I don't see one team where I think it is their title to lose, but I think these teams will be in the mix again. BC and Clarkson look to be the two whose chances take the biggest hit. Yes, they have top-ranked classes coming in, but I've also heard that this isn't as strong a class overall as the last couple were. We can add Colgate, Providence, BU, Ohio State, and UMD to the mix, and the winner is just about certain to come from those dozen teams.
    Your point about the Gophers is valid and that has the potential to make the team's losses less pronounced. For example, Pannek's year as a senior was by far her least productive as a scorer...with this year's points at exactly half of what she put up during her junior year. No, scoring is not everything but it more often than not representative of a players full offensive game. So the losses are not great - my question is whether this is a recruiting class like last year (great) or like a couple years back (a step down)?
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    So the losses are not great - my question is whether this is a recruiting class like last year (great) or like a couple years back (a step down)?
    Adding Wethington will be like adding a freshman version of Ramsey or Stecklein. I think that is where the impact from this class will come, unless there is some addition beyond those signed. If Shearen beats someone out and cracks the top nine, I wouldn't expect her to make a huge difference over what that displaced forward would have contributed. Obviously, it is great if she can add depth to the team. In goal, I'd expect the veterans will get most of the minutes.

    The team will have to improve by all of those freshmen and sophomores from this year making continued strides.
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