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2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?
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Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?
IRT Rover's last post I get that pretty much everything that's being proposed needs to get through congress (the top marginal tax rate increase) but realistically nothing is getting through the senate anyhow no matter how moderate the proposal is. The Dems could make a bill where they get rid of ACA and mandate that every living person burn 1 ton of coal and it probably still wouldn't pass. That's why we mostly need to get someone in who has ambitious ideas who can set the rhetoric and propose ambitious legislation, even if it won't pass immediately, and get rid of anyone on either side who opposes progress.
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Originally posted by trixR4kids View PostIRT Rover's last post I get that pretty much everything that's being proposed needs to get through congress (the top marginal tax rate increase) but realistically nothing is getting through the senate anyhow no matter how moderate the proposal is. The Dems could make a bill where they get rid of ACA and mandate that every living person burn 1 ton of coal and it probably still wouldn't pass. That's why we mostly need to get someone in who has ambitious ideas who can set the rhetoric and propose ambitious legislation, even if it won't pass immediately, and get rid of anyone on either side who opposes progress.Legally drunk???? If its "legal", what's the ------- problem?!? - George Carlin
Ever notice how everybody who drives slower than you is an idiot, and everybody who drives faster is a maniac? - George Carlin
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Originally posted by trixR4kids View PostIt should be but if Republicans have a majority of the senate it won't be.Legally drunk???? If its "legal", what's the ------- problem?!? - George Carlin
Ever notice how everybody who drives slower than you is an idiot, and everybody who drives faster is a maniac? - George Carlin
"I've never seen so much reason and bullsh*t contained in ONE MAN."
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The enemies on the right and left have levelled more criticisms on Beto than all other candidates to date combined. To me much of these criticisms sound like 'TH EMAILZ!'. And if you notice, we don't receive any criticisms about candidates that are nobody's...we only get them about candidates that can actually make it happen. Recently other than Kerry, Obama and Hillary Clinton (all candidates at the doorstep), no candidate has gotten more of a broadside than Beto. Having said that, its too early to make a call on Beto. But surprisingly the Post just did. They'll either help highlight some major flaws...or have some serious regrets on this:
Beto ORourke is a Loser
Washington Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...a41_story.htmlGo Gophers!
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Originally posted by Rover View PostI agree. I'm more thinking of what can be done with a narrow majority in the Senate after 2020 provided we pick off the low hanging fruit (CO, ME, AZ) plus one more.Cornell University
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Originally posted by Kepler View PostI don't know what to think about ME. They seem to be rocketing towards Frozen WV.
While this obviously isn't the only factor Dems have pretty much taken over everything that's not gerrymandered in ME, PA, MI, and WI and partial control in state govt races in AZ, IA, and NC. That's where I think the message might resonate next year.Legally drunk???? If its "legal", what's the ------- problem?!? - George Carlin
Ever notice how everybody who drives slower than you is an idiot, and everybody who drives faster is a maniac? - George Carlin
"I've never seen so much reason and bullsh*t contained in ONE MAN."
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Originally posted by Rover View PostI don't agree here. You can probably get something pretty liberal passed from the get go even with a bare majority. Not Kep's 97% tax rate but higher top income rates are a lay up. Whether that's 45% or 55% or there's a new top tier will be up to negotiation but lets be realistic. I don't want to blow off a chance to raise taxes on the rich in exchange for purity of rhetoric and an internal civil war. I also think there's a chance to get Warren's wealth tax enacted maybe on an initial small scale. A transaction tax on high speed trading is also an easy win as is killing carried interest and other special interest tax breaks.Cornell University
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Originally posted by Kepler View Postif for example the white Poors finally catch on that the 1% are laughing at them.Code:As of 9/21/10: As of 9/13/10: College Hockey 6 College Football 0 BTHC 4 WCHA FC: 1
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Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View PostYou really think they have a chance at understanding this? They have already basically shunned education as an evil. That’s a death spiral. Unrecoverable.
BUT, to the extent you put these higher rates in place and the only effect is the rich having to pay more taxes it lays the groundwork for increases down the road. I'm thinking Warren's wealth tax can start off low but go a few % points higher as the political climate on tax hikes for the rich keeps getting more favorable. If Joe Sixpack still thinks that tax cuts for the rich benefits his minimum wage existence he's probably not voting Dem anyway and there's very few Dems left in solid Red states anymore (the aforementioned Manchin and Tester along with Doug Jones).Legally drunk???? If its "legal", what's the ------- problem?!? - George Carlin
Ever notice how everybody who drives slower than you is an idiot, and everybody who drives faster is a maniac? - George Carlin
"I've never seen so much reason and bullsh*t contained in ONE MAN."
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Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View PostYou really think they have a chance at understanding this? They have already basically shunned education as an evil. That’s a death spiral. Unrecoverable.
At some point that could metastasize beyond the GOP's ability to control it, and really who is more obviously a Reptilian Shapeshifter than Lindsey Graham?
Someday the monster is going to go for Frankenstein's throat.Cornell University
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