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  • #181
    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?

    Originally posted by WeAreNDHockey View Post
    I think there are market solutions to the issue of health care and the free enterprise system is well equipped to deal with this. trump is right. This is a winning scenario for republicans everywhere.
    The traditional American medical provider and insurance system has nothing to do with free enterprise. It is a monstrous spawn of cynical crony capitalism and bribed government artificially stifling competition and rewarding rent-seeking and price gouging. If there was a free market every one of those companies would be bankrupt and every one of their executives and their pet Members would be behind bars for corruption.

    Capitalism is great at some things. It's inefficient, callous, and rock stupid in health care.
    Last edited by Kepler; 03-28-2019, 03:08 PM.
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    • #182
      Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?

      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
      The traditional American medical provider and insurance system has nothing to do with free enterprise. It is a monstrous spawn of cynical crony capitalism and bribed government artificially stifling competition and rewarding rent-seeking and price gouging. If there was a free market every one of those companies would be bankrupt and every one of their executives and their pet Members would be behind bars for corruption.

      Capitalism is great at some things. It's inefficient, callous, and rock stupid in health care.
      You do realize my previous post was absolute balderdash and sarcasm, right?

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      • #183
        Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?

        Originally posted by WeAreNDHockey View Post
        You do realize my previous post was absolute balderdash and sarcasm, right?
        I think Flaggy and pokey may have perma-broken some sarcasm detectors around here.

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        • #184
          Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?

          Originally posted by WeAreNDHockey View Post
          You do realize my previous post was absolute balderdash and sarcasm, right?
          Have you seen what passes for posts here? We passed Poe's Law years ago.
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          • #185
            Originally posted by unofan View Post
            I didn't think they removed the mandate, they just set the tax to $0.
            Then I'm confused- I thought the basis of the current suit was:

            A. Roberts only ruled that the ACA is Constitutional because of his interpretation of the individual mandate as a tax
            B. There is now no tax
            C. Ergo, if the law is not a tax, then Robert's prior reasoning no longer applies, so they think the court would come to a different decision now.

            If the tax is still in there (even if it's set to zero), what is the basis for the new suit?
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            • #186
              Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?

              Originally posted by LynahFan View Post
              Then I'm confused- I thought the basis of the current suit was:

              A. Roberts only ruled that the ACA is Constitutional because of his interpretation of the individual mandate as a tax
              B. There is now no tax
              C. Ergo, if the law is not a tax, then Robert's prior reasoning no longer applies, so they think the court would come to a different decision now.

              If the tax is still in there (even if it's set to zero), what is the basis for the new suit?
              Exactly. The premise would be that any time a tax penalty is suspended (which happens on occasion) the entire law around that tax is unconstitutional. So, if your state has a sales tax holiday one weekend a year, guess what, all sales taxes on unconstitutional!!!
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              • #187
                Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?

                Well, another opening for Democrats. The GOP in Minnesota is rejecting the Paid Family Leave proposal from the Governor. They say it's too costly.
                **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

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                • #188
                  Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?

                  Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                  The GOP in Minnesota is rejecting the Paid Family Leave proposal from the Governor. They say it's too costly.
                  The Comically Villainous Party.
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                  • #189
                    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                    The Comically Villainous Party.
                    44 puts out a caution flag:

                    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.dc9abe390d1e
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                    • #190
                      Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?

                      Originally posted by joecct View Post
                      44 puts out a caution flag:

                      https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.dc9abe390d1e
                      Older centrist concern trolls younger people to the left of him, news at ten.

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                      • #191
                        Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?

                        Originally posted by trixR4kids View Post
                        Older centrist concern trolls younger people to the left of him, news at ten.
                        Yeah, let’s ignore the wisdom from the most successful Democrat of our lifetimes. Good advice!
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                        • #192
                          Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                          Yeah, let’s ignore the wisdom from the most successful Democrat of our lifetimes. Good advice!
                          Have some respect, joe barely survived his reign of terror

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                          • #193
                            Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?

                            Originally posted by joecct View Post
                            44 puts out a caution flag:

                            https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.dc9abe390d1e
                            So now you think he's worth listening to?

                            Obama was a great president. I even think he'd be good in a knife fight. I'm not sure what he's doing here but I'm going to assume he knows more about optics than I do.
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                            • #194
                              Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?

                              Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
                              Have some respect, joe barely survived his reign of terror
                              joe's right with him on. And yes, that is hilarious given how much the right squealed about him.
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                              • #195
                                Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?

                                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                                Obama was a great president. I even think he'd be good in a knife fight
                                I’m stealing this.
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                                Originally posted by Kepler
                                When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                                He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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