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  • #16
    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?

    The thing is, the Murdoch propaganda machine does such a great job at convincing people that “socialism” (Btw, this isn’t socialism) is a bad thing. But every time the public gets a new welfare state perk, they don’t just like it, they love it. Obamacare was Satan incarnate until they started to use it.

    A wealth tax would have to be very carefully rolled out because of the complexity of state and local taxes and all other things that are impossibly intertwined with federal taxes. I know it seems like “just tax everything above $20 million at 0.5%” is a simple fix that will only impact the 1%, but I don’t think it’s that easy.

    The propaganda machine has demonized the estate tax because it impacts 40 farms a year. But the people think it impacts EVERY small farm. If even a near-zero number of people who are perceived to not be 1%ers are impacted, this will be a bloodbath. It has to be so carefully explained and rolled out. We can’t be cavalier about it. We might only have this one chance this generation.
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    • #17
      Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?

      Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
      The thing is, the Murdoch propaganda machine does such a great job at convincing people that “socialism” (Btw, this isn’t socialism) is a bad thing. But every time the public gets a new welfare state perk, they don’t just like it, they love it. Obamacare was Satan incarnate until they started to use it.
      It's tricky, even Tucker will blame the elites constantly though he tries to play it off like it's Hollywood actors and jews primarily (SOROS!) that control everything. To me this is why you need someone who actually delivers something that promises to improve peoples' basic needs (healthcare, education, housing, income) and also delivers on it. Even Dumpy ran a faux populist campaign. And that isn't to say it'll be easy to do.

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      • #18
        Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?

        Just a friendly reminder: This time around every single democrat running will be better than every single republican. All the democrats won't be good. Some of them will suck. But we can't afford a purity test at any level for the time being. When the republicans have been punished with enough defeats they will begin to change their tactics and may actually put forth a candidate or two who isn't a minion of either trump or a handful of billionaires. Until then, no purity tests, vote for the dude or gal with the "d" next to the name.

        Now back to your regularly scheduled speculation.

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        • #19
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          Originally posted by WeAreNDHockey View Post
          Just a friendly reminder: This time around every single democrat running will be better than every single republican.
          Of course. I'll vote for Tulsi before I vote for another Republican.
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          • #20
            Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?

            Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
            The enemies on the right and left have levelled more criticisms on Beto than all other candidates to date combined.
            To be fair, he did give a pretty awful answer to why he wants to be POTUS. Even a simple, "Because I believe my policies would be better than Donald Trump's, and here's why..." would've played just fine for now. Somehow he managed to spit out a bland Clinton/Kennedy-type, "Because it's my turn and I'm handsome!" type of answer.

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            • #21
              Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?

              Beto may just be an empty-headed pretty boy who is great at riling up a crowd. If he is then for f-ck's sake shove him on the ticket underneath Harris or Amy or Warren or Bernie. A pretty smile goes a long way in this stupid American Idol game, and I am sick to death of seeing that vacuous wealthtard humping Old Glory at his Nuremberg rallies.
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              • #22
                Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?

                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                Beto may just be an empty-headed pretty boy who is great at riling up a crowd. If he is then for f-ck's sake shove him on the ticket underneath Harris or Amy or Warren or Bernie. A pretty smile goes a long way in this stupid American Idol game, and I am sick to death of seeing that vacuous wealthtard humping Old Glory at his Nuremberg rallies.
                Beto definitely is a better VP pick right now than a top of the ticket guy IMHO.
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                • #23
                  Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?

                  Gotta disagree here. I'm not on board the Beto train yet but again, this Dem primary contest is about who connects best with the American people to drive turnout, not about policy as they're all in lockstep on about 90% of their issues. O'Rourke has pretty much been vetted already by the media and the public due to a high profile Senate race (as have Warren, Biden, and Bernie). So, not as much worry about a disqualifying surprise in his past although in the age of Chump I'm not sure that matters anymore. If he can inspire the masses better than everyone else running I'd be thrilled with him as the nominee. Dude doesn't seem to have much trouble generating excitement.
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                  • #24
                    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?

                    Beto hasnt proven he can win the big race just yet. He killed it in Texas but he still lost. Plus is rather inexperienced...

                    If he can get an Obama-like groundswell (not likely since the Bernie Bros already hate him) going then all bets are off but right now he isnt exactly crushing the rest of the competition.
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                    • #25
                      Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?

                      Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                      Beto hasnt proven he can win the big race just yet. He killed it in Texas but he still lost. Plus is rather inexperienced...

                      If he can get an Obama-like groundswell (not likely since the Bernie Bros already hate him) going then all bets are off but right now he isnt exactly crushing the rest of the competition.
                      But who else has? Harris' Senate race was a layup as was Booker's. Warren did beat an accidental Senator but that was in a Presidential year in Massachusetts for chrissakes. Bernie represents Vermont. Sherrod Brown would be a good example of what you're looking for but he isn't running.
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                      • #26
                        Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?

                        Originally posted by Rover View Post
                        But who else has? Harris' Senate race was a layup as was Booker's. Warren did beat an accidental Senator but that was in a Presidential year in Massachusetts for chrissakes. Bernie represents Vermont. Sherrod Brown would be a good example of what you're looking for but he isn't running.
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                        • #27
                          Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?

                          Originally posted by Rover View Post
                          But who else has? Harris' Senate race was a layup as was Booker's. Warren did beat an accidental Senator but that was in a Presidential year in Massachusetts for chrissakes. Bernie represents Vermont. Sherrod Brown would be a good example of what you're looking for but he isn't running.
                          Good post.
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                          • #28
                            Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?

                            Hickenloopers dumb comment yesterday isn’t endearing him. I get he wants to “have equality” but every single Vp has been a dude, so women don’t find your “why isn’t anyone asking the women running If theyd choose a man” charming.

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                            • #29
                              Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?

                              Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
                              Hickenloopers dumb comment yesterday isn’t endearing him. I get he wants to “have equality” but every single Vp has been a dude, so women don’t find your “why isn’t anyone asking the women running If theyd choose a man” charming.
                              I get his point but that's one of those things you don't say out loud! Regardless Hick was never in any real danger of winning the nomination anyway.
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                              • #30
                                Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers: Who ISN'T Running At This Point?

                                Originally posted by Rover View Post
                                I get his point but that's one of those things you don't say out loud! Regardless Hick was never in any real danger of winning the nomination anyway.
                                Um.
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