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Thread: UNH Wildcats 2019 Offseason - How Much Progress Did We Really Make This Past Season?

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    Re: UNH Wildcats 2019 Offseason - How Much Progress Did We Really Make This Past Seas

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Murray View Post
    Snively65 pretty much handled the low hanging fruit approach to a response here.

    Let me turn the tables a little bit and ask you … what has UNH Hockey done to get the masses excited to the levels of past years? Yes, not too long ago, UNH had one of the best D-1 programs in the country, year in and year out. And the interest level hummed in anticipation of "next year" with the school itself doing relatively little to stoke that interest - they took it for granted, allowed the local media to boost the program to the hockey-loving hordes. Coach Umile wasn't a publicist's dream, he was a hockey coach, and he relied on the on-ice results to keep the buzz on the program, which in turn helped him immeasurably with the other stuff he really didn't enjoy about his job - that whole recruiting thing. That was what McCloskey, Serino, Borek and Tortorella were for.

    The AD was (still is) asleep at the wheel when it comes to publicizing and romancing the NH hockey base, ceding it without even a fight when the Monarchs arrived in Manch during the good ol' days. "Doesn't matter, all is fine" as the AD pointed to a waiting list of over a thousand folks patiently waiting for season ticketholder interest to wane so they could step in and keep the house full.

    Eventually, guys like McCloskey and Serino wanted to do other things, and guys like Borek and Tortorella weren't quite as good at what they did as their predecessors were. Eventually they wanted to do other things, and guys like Souza and Stewart haven't yet established themselves at the levels of Borek or Tortorella, much less McCloskey and Serino. Coach Umile was the same coach, but the quality of "groceries" was slipping, and he himself couldn't be bothered to do something he always relied on others to do.

    The AD still can't be bothered, he's put his latest plan (MS7) in play, and he's just hoping it works out (as do the rest of us). I'm not seeing him doing anything to promote UNH Hockey, now that they're back to being the only game in town (state) by default.

    The fans - the long-term fans - have been entirely taken for granted. MS7 might turn out to be a heck of a hockey coach, but it's early days, and frankly he is showing the same talent for PR as his mentor/predecessor. Which is to say, next to nothing. If you got every hockey fan in the state in a single arena, and asked them "Who is the UNH Men's Hockey head coach?" my guess is one third would know it's Souza, another third would still think it's Coach Umile, and the final third wouldn't know at all.

    This is not made better in any way by the current state of the modern media, which doesn't provide the in-depth coverage they used to, don't ask pressing questions, and just copy and paste press releases to pass for "beat coverage" for the program. It's sad.

    I'm not necessarily expecting MS7 to turn into a hockey messiah and get the word out on his own. Guys like that (RIP Walshy) don't seem to exist anymore. Luckily for him, I don't think he has to be that "out there" or even that great to be successful. But he's got to turn this back into a winning program. Then, if he can do that, we can get on the other folks who've parked things in neutral for the better part of the last generation, and shame them into doing their share of the work to get stuff out there.

    I don't think it's incumbent upon guys like 'Watcher, C-H-C, Dan and an unpaid cast of dozens on here to generate the excitement that the folks with paying jobs should be handling. Those who post on here with their insight and knowledge, do so because they love the game, and they love the program. But it's not their "job" to create content for the casual or not-so-casual fans out there like you and me. So welcome aboard, CoachD (it couldn't really be U, right?), and don't hesitate to provide your thoughts and your own content. I've always said, the more, the merrier.
    C'mon Chuck, play along for a bit. Will we be better than last year? Who will be captain? We didn't have any early d-men departures! I heard Benton Maas is carrying a 4.0 as a Paul School finance major. Check out @UNHMHOCKEY for some recent Merrimack Valley publicity and outreach.
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    Re: UNH Wildcats 2019 Offseason - How Much Progress Did We Really Make This Past Seas

    Quote Originally Posted by Darius View Post
    C'mon Chuck, play along for a bit. Will we be better than last year? Who will be captain? We didn't have any early d-men departures! I heard Benton Maas is carrying a 4.0 as a Paul School finance major. Check out @UNHMHOCKEY for some recent Merrimack Valley publicity and outreach.
    No problem, Darius. Just thought CoachD seemed to be a little too demanding, castigating our cast of characters on here for not posting more quality hockey content more frequently … in the offseason … while really offering nothing other than what he's read or heard about the incoming recruits (which Dan has since addressed, pouring a little cold water on CD's wide-eyed optimism).

    I'd be willing to bet that over the course of the nearly 1,000 posts on this thread to date, pretty much everything you mentioned has been covered at least once (except the Maass the Genius thing you just dropped in as news), and I'm guessing there have probably been a half-dozen times someone has trotted out the projected starting line-ups for the Fall. I mean, no disrespect to anyone ... but how many times should 'Watcher or Dan have to recite their projections for next season to keep CoachD satisfied?
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    Re: UNH Wildcats 2019 Offseason - How Much Progress Did We Really Make This Past Seas

    Read this earlier.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Murray View Post
    MS7 might turn out to be a heck of a hockey coach, but it's early days, and frankly he is showing the same talent for PR as his mentor/predecessor. Which is to say, next to nothing.
    Then saw this about an hour later in my twitter feed....

    https://twitter.com/RPI_HockeyCoach/...85133635481600
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    Re: UNH Wildcats 2019 Offseason - How Much Progress Did We Really Make This Past Seas

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Murray View Post
    No problem, Darius. Just thought CoachD seemed to be a little too demanding, castigating our cast of characters on here for not posting more quality hockey content more frequently … in the offseason … while really offering nothing other than what he's read or heard about the incoming recruits (which Dan has since addressed, pouring a little cold water on CD's wide-eyed optimism).

    I'd be willing to bet that over the course of the nearly 1,000 posts on this thread to date, pretty much everything you mentioned has been covered at least once (except the Maass the Genius thing you just dropped in as news), and I'm guessing there have probably been a half-dozen times someone has trotted out the projected starting line-ups for the Fall. I mean, no disrespect to anyone ... but how many times should 'Watcher or Dan have to recite their projections for next season to keep CoachD satisfied?
    Chuck, Chuck, Chuck! I don't know a thing about Coach D but certainly think he has the right to inquire about hockey talk. I love it when someone posts their line predictions. Dan, Watcher, it doesn't matter because it is all opinion. Dan for example has far more knowledge than I have but I might suggest that while i think his quess is spot on (for November or December and beyond) I see Grasso - Blackburn - Kelleher followed by Crookshank - Pierson - And perhaps Sacco. Yes because that would be so UNH, to play the older kid early. My point is that you mention that he could have seen this on here countless times yet you have several dead horses that you just can't seem to stop beating. Everyone knows your feeling on the AD and no MS has yet to prove he is the KING! But the jury is out on that and will always be out. Why, opinion and we all have them. Soooo let others share and relax. Some folks like to guess about goals scored, who will do what, etc.
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    Re: UNH Wildcats 2019 Offseason - How Much Progress Did We Really Make This Past Seas

    Did I see on the news that Conklin is their volunteer goalie coach this year? Did I miss that this summer?

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    Re: UNH Wildcats 2019 Offseason - How Much Progress Did We Really Make This Past Seas

    Quote Originally Posted by Nifty16 View Post
    Did I see on the news that Conklin is their volunteer goalie coach this year? Did I miss that this summer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darius View Post
    C'mon Chuck, play along for a bit. Will we be better than last year? Who will be captain? We didn't have any early d-men departures! I heard Benton Maas is carrying a 4.0 as a Paul School finance major. Check out @UNHMHOCKEY for some recent Merrimack Valley publicity and outreach.
    I now see that I misread CD's post, which suggests that this season's team could be the best in years, not that the new recruits could be the best in years; my apologies. And, I agree that we should have a better record than last year and posted earlier that we could finish as high as sixth and get back to the Garden with an upset first round win. And, I think that it s really cool that Maass is carrying a 4.0 over his first two years as a finance major.
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    Re: UNH Wildcats 2019 Offseason - How Much Progress Did We Really Make This Past Seas

    Quote Originally Posted by C-H-C View Post
    https://www.wmur.com/article/unh-hoc...k-in/29114773#
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    Nice to see the best goalie in the program's history back in town to help MS7 out.
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    Maybe start a curling program, since Football no longer seems to be the U's calling card.
    Well, there is the 4-0-2 men’s soccer team, #18 in the nation, with two straight NCAA appearances, perhaps a third to come this year. Also in the midst of a facilities upgrade, and just a stone’s throw from the football stadium.

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    Re: UNH Wildcats 2019 Offseason - How Much Progress Did We Really Make This Past Seas

    Quote Originally Posted by Ned Braden View Post
    Excellent choices!!!!!! Nice to see them go with 3...here we go 'Cats!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyRef View Post
    Excellent choices!!!!!! Nice to see them go with 3...here we go 'Cats!!!!
    You never know with this team, I like to traditional non-goalie one captain/two alternates but they've been creative in the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyRef View Post
    Excellent choices!!!!!! Nice to see them go with 3...here we go 'Cats!!!!
    Agreed. I like these picks.

    Just another small example of a steadier hand at the rudder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ned Braden View Post
    You never know with this team, I like to traditional non-goalie one captain/two alternates but they've been creative in the past.
    Nice! I also like the nod to underclassmen. It has been a while (I think).

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    Re: UNH Wildcats 2019 Offseason - How Much Progress Did We Really Make This Past Seas

    Quote Originally Posted by Ned Braden View Post
    Interesting. Wyse was expected, but I'm not sure the other two appeared in many of the guesses posted on here in recent months. It also seems to designate Kelleher as next year's Captain.

    I remember having a similarly mixed reaction to Vela's selection this time last year, but that worked out just fine, so I see no reason to doubt MS7's selections this time around. I also prefer that he does it in the preseason, and not at the banquet, which (at least to me) always made it feel more like an award, and less about which guy(s) put in the work to earn a leadership role.

    Let's face it, when MS7's predecessor messed up, he did it colossally, and everyone knew it immediately.
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    Re: UNH Wildcats 2019 Offseason - How Much Progress Did We Really Make This Past Seas

    My only minor concern is whether Grasso can stay healthy, which I think is important for wearing a letter (need to be an on-ice presence). Watching the Grasso-Blackburn-BvR freshman third line gave me high hopes that the three of them would skate together for all four years. Sigh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snively65 View Post
    My only minor concern is whether Grasso can stay healthy, which I think is important for wearing a letter (need to be an on-ice presence). Watching the Grasso-Blackburn-BvR freshman third line gave me high hopes that the three of them would skate together for all four years. Sigh.
    Snively, I am with you on that line. Remember thinking 4 years of this, aaah! This could be a very interesting year in HE. I do see UMass returning to the top spot. Lots of experience and solid goaltending. BC is young and gifted but we will need to see how quickly they can gel. BU lost a lot and while reloading I just not sure how quickly they will do it. UML lost their top scoring and the next level will need to step up with their scoring also. Overall I think PC took the biggest hits and this could be a tough year for them and I see them falling out of the top 4. As for us, good in goal, solid on the blue line with 3/4 guys that could crack the 12/15 goal mark.
    If guys step up, a possible 4 spot and if they don't as far down as 7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by After the Whistle View Post
    Snively, I am with you on that line. Remember thinking 4 years of this, aaah! This could be a very interesting year in HE. I do see UMass returning to the top spot. Lots of experience and solid goaltending. BC is young and gifted but we will need to see how quickly they can gel. BU lost a lot and while reloading I just not sure how quickly they will do it. UML lost their top scoring and the next level will need to step up with their scoring also. Overall I think PC took the biggest hits and this could be a tough year for them and I see them falling out of the top 4. As for us, good in goal, solid on the blue line with 3/4 guys that could crack the 12/15 goal mark.
    If guys step up, a possible 4 spot and if they don't as far down as 7.
    I like your optimism, ATW. I posted earlier that 6th would be nice, but 4th? Will need to tighten up our PP for that, I think. No more giving up SHG's. No names, but you know who I mean. :-)

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    Re: UNH Wildcats 2019 Offseason - How Much Progress Did We Really Make This Past Seas

    Quote Originally Posted by Snively65 View Post
    My only minor concern is whether Grasso can stay healthy, which I think is important for wearing a letter (need to be an on-ice presence). Watching the Grasso-Blackburn-BvR freshman third line gave me high hopes that the three of them would skate together for all four years. Sigh.
    Ah sigh...yes, the best laid plans! But, not meant to be so it's the next man up. Would love to see Patrick G have a big season. I think it was a great move to go with 2 underclassmen wearing the A...been awhile since we've seen this. Trying to think if I have been a fan long enough for that to happen. I'm not that worried about if one isn't on the ice or not.

    The player I think we will see do something big this season, and, it all depends on other factors too...is Joe Sacco. Also looking for Eric MacAdams to pot some goals, and, thinking we'll see him in the PP line up. At any rate, looking forward to seeing what we've got...just a couple o Sundays left!!!!
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