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    Re: Maine Black Bears 2019: Offseason Approaching

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackI View Post
    Lol, BU and BC are in. Maine goes 5-1 against those teams.
    They're in the Hockey East semis. Still a LONG way from being in the NCAA tournament; and at best one of them will make it.

    Quote Originally Posted by rufus View Post
    8-61-3 against the top 15.

    Now that's an inspiring stat.
    PC dropped out of the top 15 today so it's now 7-60-3 (.121)

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    Re: Maine Black Bears 2019: Offseason Approaching

    Quote Originally Posted by GoBlue51 View Post
    I felt the need to clarify since many people on here seem to think we should return to the glory years with a flick of the switch. That doesn't happen in college hockey. It comes down to one or two solid recruiting classes that can turn a program around. See Northeastern with Gaudette/Aston-Reese, UMass with Makar, etc.

    Moving forward, if they all return, I think Maine has a very solid foundation to have a successful 2019-2020. The Tralmaks-Pearson-Fossier line is very good and Swayman is very good. Keeper should also be back to anchor the d-men and I like what I've seen from Sirota as well. Binner also has the potential to be a solid d-man if he can just eliminate the mental mistakes.

    I'll gave Red the benefit of the doubt for another year and once it becomes time to consider an extension we'll see where we're at. If we still haven't advanced to The Garden, then I think it'd be worth seeing what's out there.
    I get this, and I commend you on your optimism. Because Lord knows it is tough with this lot. But even I am done. There is simply no coaching of defense. Period.

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    Re: Maine Black Bears 2019: Offseason Approaching

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    They're in the Hockey East semis. Still a LONG way from being in the NCAA tournament; and at best one of them will make it.



    PC dropped out of the top 15 today so it's now 7-60-3 (.121)
    I am a simple man that only wishes to see Maine play in hockey east semis at this point.

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    Re: Maine Black Bears 2019: Offseason Approaching

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackI View Post
    I am a simple man that only wishes to see Maine play in hockey east semis at this point.
    If I were more complex I would ask why on the first NU goal doesn't Michel lay out to block that shot. He was in position. He is a captain. He's been coached for four years. Surely he can make that play... naaaawwww, I'm gonna hold up and inadvertently screen my goalie. Watch that film.

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    Re: Maine Black Bears 2019: Offseason Approaching

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishman'81 View Post
    BU and BC might well lose at TD, and be golfing during the FF. (I hope so, just because neither team deserves a berth. God, I hate this idiotic tournament-AQ BS.)
    I knew somebody would bring this up so I might as well join the party. I actually agree with you. It sort of renders the regular season meaningless. And, in reality, it perpetuates the methodology of teams like BU and BC (and I'm a BU guy all the way) to continue to recruit elite talent, cruise through the season and then turn it on when the games count (and then have them leave and go pro, only to repeat the following year). But we all know WHY this is done. $$$$$$$$$$$ As usual, the powers that be figured out how they could make even more money. Plus, the prevailing sentiment that everyone needs a "second chance" these days. Look at the ridiculous MBPBEGAR ("Make believe phony baloney everyone gets a ribbon") round that they thankfully got rid of this year (with apologies to Chuck Murray - I know I got the acronym wrong).

    But if you think it's bad in hockey, look at the NCAA Basketball Tournament. The idea of sports is to WIN, right? So how do they get off saying that the team that finishes eighth in the B1G, for example, "deserves" to go to the tournament over a team that won 25 games but finished second in their conference, just because it's a "mid major?" If the idea is to have the "best 64 (or 65 or whatever it is now) teams in the tournament, then why bother with conferences at all? Just use a PWR like hockey and pick the top 65 teams. A team who finishes second in their conference, even if it's the worst in the country (i.e., like an America East or Patriot League) STILL deserves to go to the tournament over an eighth place team that probably lost EVERY game it played against the top four teams in its league.

    It's never going to change, though, so there's no point in lamenting. It is what it is.

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    Re: Maine Black Bears 2019: Offseason Approaching

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackI View Post
    I am a simple man that only wishes to see Maine play in hockey east semis at this point.
    Might I recommend a VCR?

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    Re: Maine Black Bears 2019: Offseason Approaching

    BU is #24 PW at 16-17-4. BC is #34 at 13-21-3... And both teams have a shot at the NCAA's.

    An exquisitely stupid calculus.

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    Re: Maine Black Bears 2019: Offseason Approaching

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishman'81 View Post
    BU is #24 PW at 16-17-4. BC is #34 at 13-21-3... And both teams have a shot at the NCAA's.

    An exquisitely stupid calculus.
    Same with Brown and CC. Each conference has the choice of awarding the AQ to the regular season winner or the team that wins the tournament. A conference will ALWAYS choose the winner of its tournament.

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    Re: Maine Black Bears 2019: Offseason Approaching

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishman'81 View Post
    BU is #24 PW at 16-17-4. BC is #34 at 13-21-3... And both teams have a shot at the NCAA's.

    An exquisitely stupid calculus.
    Yes. I can't argue with that. But the conference will want the "hottest" team at the end of the year because it looks better for the conference if they make noise in the tournament (unless they knock out a fellow conference member, which won't happen in this case because the top two are already in).

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    Re: Maine Black Bears 2019: Offseason Approaching

    Quote Originally Posted by ticapnews View Post
    Might I recommend a VCR?
    Lol. Even Rufus knows I got a vcr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chickod View Post
    I knew somebody would bring this up so I might as well join the party. I actually agree with you. It sort of renders the regular season meaningless. And, in reality, it perpetuates the methodology of teams like BU and BC (and I'm a BU guy all the way) to continue to recruit elite talent, cruise through the season and then turn it on when the games count (and then have them leave and go pro, only to repeat the following year). But we all know WHY this is done. $$$$$$$$$$$ As usual, the powers that be figured out how they could make even more money. Plus, the prevailing sentiment that everyone needs a "second chance" these days. Look at the ridiculous MBPBEGAR ("Make believe phony baloney everyone gets a ribbon") round that they thankfully got rid of this year (with apologies to Chuck Murray - I know I got the acronym wrong).

    But if you think it's bad in hockey, look at the NCAA Basketball Tournament. The idea of sports is to WIN, right? So how do they get off saying that the team that finishes eighth in the B1G, for example, "deserves" to go to the tournament over a team that won 25 games but finished second in their conference, just because it's a "mid major?" If the idea is to have the "best 64 (or 65 or whatever it is now) teams in the tournament, then why bother with conferences at all? Just use a PWR like hockey and pick the top 65 teams. A team who finishes second in their conference, even if it's the worst in the country (i.e., like an America East or Patriot League) STILL deserves to go to the tournament over an eighth place team that probably lost EVERY game it played against the top four teams in its league.

    It's never going to change, though, so there's no point in lamenting. It is what it is.
    What team are you a fan of?

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    Re: Maine Black Bears 2019: Offseason Approaching

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackI View Post
    What team are you a fan of?
    I graduated from BU in 1976 and have followed them for some 48 years (since they beat Minnesota in 1971 for the National Championship). But I also have an affinity for UNH and Maine (family and friends who have gone to those schools). I also think it would be a GREAT thing for them to get back to the Garden, because they usually bring huge fan bases which makes for a really exciting atmosphere, which, frankly, has been dreadful the last few years. Unfortunately, the BU fan base has been dwindling for years as we went from a commuter school (and lots of local players) to an "international" school where many students come from "non-hockey" areas, cultures and backgrounds.

    I was at the Garden in 2004 so I get it (goal disallowed because the guy's skate was one millimeter into the crease which has no bearing on the play whatsoever). I have been lucky to witness Final (what they used to call it)/Frozen Fours in person...1974, 1978, 1995, 2009, 2015; three of which we won and two in which we lost (1974 to Minnesota and 2015 to Providence). So yes, I am somewhat spoiled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackI View Post
    I get this, and I commend you on your optimism. Because Lord knows it is tough with this lot. But even I am done. There is simply no coaching of defense. Period.
    I dont think defense is the problem. They often couldn't break out to save their life in a lot of games and STILL often employ the dump and chase strategy. Defense was substantially better in my opinion, the offense needs a lot of work.

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    Re: Maine Black Bears 2019: Offseason Approaching

    Quote Originally Posted by chickod View Post
    If the idea is to have the "best 64 (or 65 or whatever it is now) teams in the tournament, then why bother with conferences at all? Just use a PWR like hockey and pick the top 65 teams.
    This.

    "Conferences" are BS constructs. When an objective metric exists (say, the KRACH or the PW), just employ it across the board. That rewards merit.

    And, to your other argument, do the hockey tournaments even make a dime these days?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishman'81 View Post
    This.

    "Conferences" are BS constructs. When an objective metric exists (say, the KRACH or the PW), just employ it across the board. That rewards merit.
    Didn't you get the memo? "Merit" has no place in our society anymore... everyone has to have a "chance"...or three or four...

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    Re: Maine Black Bears 2019: Offseason Approaching

    Quote Originally Posted by chickod View Post
    I graduated from BU in 1976 and have followed them for some 48 years (since they beat Minnesota in 1971 for the National Championship). But I also have an affinity for UNH and Maine (family and friends who have gone to those schools). I also think it would be a GREAT thing for them to get back to the Garden, because they usually bring huge fan bases which makes for a really exciting atmosphere, which, frankly, has been dreadful the last few years. Unfortunately, the BU fan base has been dwindling for years as we went from a commuter school (and lots of local players) to an "international" school where many students come from "non-hockey" areas, cultures and backgrounds.

    I was at the Garden in 2004 so I get it (goal disallowed because the guy's skate was one millimeter into the crease which has no bearing on the play whatsoever). I have been lucky to witness Final (what they used to call it)/Frozen Fours in person...1974, 1978, 1995, 2009, 2015; three of which we won and two in which we lost (1974 to Minnesota and 2015 to Providence). So yes, I am somewhat spoiled.
    Ok, I just wondered why you could have seen BU play and went to UMass/Unh in Amherst.

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    Re: Maine Black Bears 2019: Offseason Approaching

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackI View Post
    Ok, I just wondered why you could have seen BU play and went to UMass/Unh in Amherst.
    Yeah, I struggled with that but knew I could still go and I wanted to see UMass because I figured that would only go two games. So I went to Lowell tonight (well, afternoon) for Game 3.

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    Re: Maine Black Bears 2019: Offseason Approaching

    Quote Originally Posted by ticapnews View Post
    Same with Brown and CC. Each conference has the choice of awarding the AQ to the regular season winner or the team that wins the tournament. A conference will ALWAYS choose the winner of its tournament.
    My point was that there should be no AQ's at all. Just evaluate the teams along a continuum, employing some reasonable and objective criteria.

    It'll truly be an embarrassment to our sport if BC gets in and displaces a deserving team. That team has no business whatsoever to even be in the same Zip Code as the tournament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishman'81 View Post
    My point was that there should be no AQ's at all. Just evaluate the teams along a continuum, employing some reasonable and objective criteria.

    It'll truly be an embarrassment to our sport if BC gets in and displaces a deserving team. That team has no business whatsoever to even be in the same Zip Code as the tournament.
    Yes, I got your point and I agree. But I told you...$$$$ always wins.

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    Re: Maine Black Bears 2019: Offseason Approaching

    Quote Originally Posted by amkirby10 View Post
    I dont think defense is the problem. They often couldn't break out to save their life in a lot of games and STILL often employ the dump and chase strategy. Defense was substantially better in my opinion, the offense needs a lot of work.
    https://youtu.be/ngw9ESJJH-k

    Focus on 32 second mark. And ask yourself if he could have done more.

    Then look at the blocked shots NU had.

    Then you can realize one team stresses defense, and the other doesn't.

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