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    Gendronís thoughts on recruiting rule change...

    https://bangordailynews.com/2019/04/...positive-step/
    Link didn't work for me, but thanks for posting it.

    I'm very weary of listening to Red's excuses, anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishman'81 View Post
    There's that, to a limited extent...

    But, Portland is a great small city, it's not a bad ride from Eastern Mass on 95, and (IMO) it's a much more attractive destination than are Worcester/Manchester combined.

    Maine isn't within a continent of getting to a Regional right now, but I do think that a Portland Regional would fare well if BU, BC, maybe even UNH were sited there. It's true that the lodging is somewhat pricey there, but there are plenty of rooms up and down Rt. 1 in the off-season.

    (Somebody else said this, but why oh why do so many Mainers consider Cumberland County hostile territory? My people are from Fairfield, smack-dab in the middle of Nowhere, but I love it there, and I love Portland too. We have a little bit of everything in Maine.)
    I think Mariners dislike the people more than the place. Lot of whiners and people from away in southern maine. Iíd also add a lot of them want to force their way of life on others where most mariners believe people can do whatever they want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew S. View Post
    I think Mariners dislike the people more than the place. Lot of whiners and people from away in southern maine. Iíd also add a lot of them want to force their way of life on others where most mariners believe people can do whatever they want.
    There is resentment over politics. North of Lewiston believes south of Lewiston controls the political side of things. Therefore they will always be referred to as a flat lander. Despite Penobscot valley being as flat as can be. Having said this, I do believe north of Lewiston has been neglected. Big time.

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    There is resentment over politics. North of Lewiston believes south of Lewiston controls the political side of things. Therefore they will always be referred to as a flat lander. Despite Penobscot valley being as flat as can be. Having said this, I do believe north of Lewiston has been neglected. Big time.
    There's two Maine's...North and South.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackI View Post
    There is resentment over politics. North of Lewiston believes south of Lewiston controls the political side of things. Therefore they will always be referred to as a flat lander. Despite Penobscot valley being as flat as can be. Having said this, I do believe north of Lewiston has been neglected. Big time.
    South is where all the population is so.... Northern Maine is huge and is dying a slow death. Getting to the point where I'm working in southern Maine more than the local area.
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    Its plain old an economic divide, similar situations exist in most every state in this country.

    I live in the north, realize it, accept it and prefer what it is. Personnaly hold absolutely no bitterness towards the southern part of the state. In fact Im grateful, as without that prosperity we would be some rough. Portland is a nice place to get to once in a while, many folks around here go there to visit. Many of the young people go there for work.

    How this discussion started and relates to holding a regional in Portland escapes me. If the hockey was good, folks from up here would go, but probably not 3000 people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pmcdonald View Post
    I think it comes down to the Arena in Portland is sub-par even with the 30+ million dollar renovation. Portland should have put that money into a brand new arena.
    Portland has so much more to offer that Manchester, Worcester, Bridgeport and even Providence. Was just in Providence for this year's Regional and I was unimpressed with what is going on for nightlife after the games. Portland's Old Port, Craft Brew Scene, Restaurants, etc., etc. are outstanding.
    Disappointed that Portland didn't get a Regional.
    Odd, because one of the best FF experiences I ever had was in Providence in 2000. Better than Boston in 2004.

    Course, that was when Buddy Cianci was mayor. Turned the whole area around the Dunk into a beer garden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rufus View Post
    Odd, because one of the best FF experiences I ever had was in Providence in 2000. Better than Boston in 2004.

    Course, that was when Buddy Cianci was mayor. Turned the whole area around the Dunk into a beer garden.
    Providence was always a fun venue for FF hockey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew S. View Post
    I think Mariners dislike the people more than the place. Lot of whiners and people from away in southern maine. Iíd also add a lot of them want to force their way of life on others where most mariners believe people can do whatever they want.
    I think itís economic resentment. People living in dying rural towns feel left behind and they visit Portland and see young people and somewhere that seems so much more vibrant than their gloomy decaying town.

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    I think itís economic resentment. People living in dying rural towns feel left behind and they visit Portland and see young people and somewhere that seems so much more vibrant than their gloomy decaying town.
    Also Southern Maine is the economic driver of the state. The tiny towns in Aroostook County can all have their own high school because of a wealth transfer of Southern Maine's tax dollars. Then Northern Mainers ***** that Portland spends too much money on social services.

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    Also Southern Maine is the economic driver of the state. The tiny towns in Aroostook County can all have their own high school because of a wealth transfer of Southern Maine's tax dollars. Then Northern Mainers ***** that Portland spends too much money on social services.
    Its the economic driver now but hasn't been that way for very long. Once Loring was shut down the end was near
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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Its the economic driver now but hasn't been that way for very long. Once Loring was shut down the end was near
    Dow AFB in Bangor shutting down (yeah, it's been a while) didn't help either. My dad did many TDY's there, and the base was a big boon to the local economy.

    But you and AMC and BassAle are right. Where would Maine be without the tax-revenue from the Southern area? Otherwise, I-95 might be a long dirt road north of Kittery.

    Just to be clear, I have family all over the State from Millinocket to Portland, Skowhegan, Bucksport, Madison, Alfred, you name it, and I like being at any and all of those places. Maine offers a wide spectrum of choices, from wilderness to fancy eats.

    It's all good, if you ask me. (Especially the fishing.)
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    While you're all lamenting closed military bases dont forget Brunswick NAS which served as the base for sub hunters and was our supply line to our base in Iceland. It also closed (as did Pease in New Hampshire). Devastated our economy along the coast. I believe every air base north of Andrews AFB has now been closed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ticapnews View Post
    While you're all lamenting closed military bases dont forget Brunswick NAS which served as the base for sub hunters and was our supply line to our base in Iceland. It also closed (as did Pease in New Hampshire). Devastated our economy along the coast. I believe every air base north of Andrews AFB has now been closed.
    A guy I work with told me about this story https://www.islandinstitute.org/working-waterfront/defending-nation-downeast which I found very interesting. Iíve been thru the towns but didnít know much about what the bases did.

    Itís interesting weíre the only corner of the country with no real defense. Iím sure the powers that be know what they are doing, but you would think there would be at least one base between Boston and the border with fighters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BassAle View Post
    I think itís economic resentment. People living in dying rural towns feel left behind and they visit Portland and see young people and somewhere that seems so much more vibrant than their gloomy decaying town.
    I think youíre definitely right when it comes to the under 30 crowd. Social media and the internet must cause a lot more resentment than back in our day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew S. View Post
    A guy I work with told me about this story https://www.islandinstitute.org/worki...ation-downeast which I found very interesting. Iíve been thru the towns but didnít know much about what the bases did.

    Itís interesting weíre the only corner of the country with no real defense. Iím sure the powers that be know what they are doing, but you would think there would be at least one base between Boston and the border with fighters.
    We're also the only corner of this nation that ever been attacked by a foreign force. Twice. The British came down from Canada and burned the White House. And of course 9/11. Ironically, the ONLY air base that responded that morning was the base in Massachusetts, but those planes went east because no one realized exactly what was happening. That base closed too.

    One of my fondest memories from childhood was when I'd visit my grandparents, see the P-3 Orions out the window lining up to land and I'd run outside to wave to the pilots. They were low enough that I could see them and they'd usually wave back. Every once in a while they'd "wave" with their wings.

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    2 other bases downeast. Cutler and Winter Harbor. small but still a factor in the local economy. Cutler is still there and doing its job but its a shell of its former self. You are going to see more and more communities fold up in rural areas as they struggle to keep basic necessities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ticapnews View Post
    We're also the only corner of this nation that ever been attacked by a foreign force. Twice. The British came down from Canada and burned the White House. And of course 9/11. Ironically, the ONLY air base that responded that morning was the base in Massachusetts, but those planes went east because no one realized exactly what was happening. That base closed too.
    During the war of 1812 the British invasion from Canada actually went to Plattsburgh, NY. The attack on Washington, DC, was an amphibious attack launched along the Chesapeake Bay and which attacked both Washington and Baltimore. Furthermore, the British also landed in Louisiana south of New Orleans and were routed by Andrew Jackson as they advanced on the city.

    As for 9/11, two Massachusetts National Guard F-15 fighters were scrambled from Otis Air National Guard base, but too late to reach the hijacked planes. The base is still open and operational, although the fighter wing was reassigned to Westfield-Barnes Regional Airport in Westfield, MA in 2005. The fighters that flew east scrambled from Langley Air Force Base in Virginia, if what I read is correct.

    Quote Originally Posted by ticapnews View Post
    One of my fondest memories from childhood was when I'd visit my grandparents, see the P-3 Orions out the window lining up to land and I'd run outside to wave to the pilots. They were low enough that I could see them and they'd usually wave back. Every once in a while they'd "wave" with their wings.
    Great story. I grew up near Hansom Air Force Base and recall the fighters taking off and landing, but they were always too high overhead to wave to. I also miss the bi-annual Thunderbirds air show which they stopped hosting after 9/11.

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    More cold war nostalgia: https://www.unionleader.com/news/end...e56a71bc0.html

    Pease is still an active ANG base, but nothing like back in the 1970s when KC-135s and fighter support planes were a constant presence above the NH sea coast.
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