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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackI View Post
    Breen was in Fargoís camp. So looks like he isnít coming in this fall after all. He, like Roy, signed an LOI. So this is odd.

    Gould and Poissant were also in Fargoís camp.
    Breen and Poissant are both likely not coming this fall? Then what the heck is the plan? That's makes me more concerned if true, the forward group could be troubled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishman'81 View Post
    You have a point, to say the least.

    Red's teams have almost exactly mediocre year-in and year-out.

    And next season looks to be somewhat worse.

    (Still going to Upper Bumf..., I mean Canton NY to see them at St. Lawrence. That's a great old barn.)
    I might make the trip for the Friday game. That has to be one of the most desolate places in the US.

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    Re: Maine Black Bears 2019: Offseason Approaching

    Quote Originally Posted by Drew S. View Post
    I might make the trip for the Friday game. That has to be one of the most desolate places in the US.
    It's certainly out of the way (especially from ME or Eastern MA), but the river itself is beautiful, and Appleton reminds me of the original Alfond- an all wood interior. it's really a great place to see a game. There are good restaurants around, ferries to Canada, boat tours, and places to stay right on the St. Lawrence that are very affordable and perfectly decent.

    It's been a really fun experience for us over the years, both at SLU and Clarkson... (Well, not so much watching Maine get thumped at SLU during Red's opening series in Canton, but we don't expect much from his program anymore. We could both grasp that he was the wrong Skipper even after his first 2 games, even when he still had Timmy-talent to work with... )

    Yet we'll go anyway, but our expectations are very low, as has been the case for 6 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amkirby10 View Post
    Breen and Poissant are both likely not coming this fall? Then what the heck is the plan? That's makes me more concerned if true, the forward group could be troubled.
    At this point it makes no sense. Lost faith a long time ago in Gendron. Looks like good recruits are too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackI View Post
    At this point it makes no sense. Lost faith a long time ago in Gendron. Looks like good recruits are too.
    He favors size and lack of stick skills. Penalties over the speedy killers. Penchants for taking rather than discipline.

    It is what it is until he is gone.... then they can get someone young with fire in the belly....

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackI View Post
    At this point it makes no sense. Lost faith a long time ago in Gendron. Looks like good recruits are too.
    Im thinking this will be Reds last year behind the bench.
    Dont see a winning record this year and will be battling to at best get into HE playoffs and not finish in bottom level. It just might be enough for Ken to shake it up.
    Sticking with that anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishman'81 View Post
    You have a point, to say the least.

    Red's teams have almost exactly mediocre year-in and year-out.

    And next season looks to be somewhat worse.

    (Still going to Upper Bumf..., I mean Canton NY to see them at St. Lawrence. That's a great old barn.)
    That old barn is getting some renovations this summer, as is Cheel at the other side of Upper Bumf.. er Potsdam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthMike View Post
    Im thinking this will be Reds last year behind the bench.
    Dont see a winning record this year and will be battling to at best get into HE playoffs and not finish in bottom level. It just might be enough for Ken to shake it up.
    Sticking with that anyway.
    Based on current form thatís a good prediction. Red has actually done a decent job as far as bringing in goalies and dmen, but has missed on way too many forwards. Iíll be pretty disappointed if Breen doesnít come in and to be brutally honest Maine canít afford another poor forward class after last yearís. There are two or three who I donít even understand why they are on the roster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joecct View Post
    That old barn is getting some renovations this summer, as is Cheel at the other side of Upper Bumf.. er Potsdam.
    Well I hope they don't change the character of the place. I love it there.

    One of my favorite hockey weekends ever was following Maine to Cheel and Appleton on consecutive nights long ago. I wish that they'd try to schedule that trip again, but what's the point of anyone scheduling Maine anymore?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew S. View Post
    Based on current form thatís a good prediction. Red has actually done a decent job as far as bringing in goalies and dmen, but has missed on way too many forwards. Iíll be pretty disappointed if Breen doesnít come in and to be brutally honest Maine canít afford another poor forward class after last yearís. There are two or three who I donít even understand why they are on the roster.
    Drew, I really haven't seen one outstanding forward brought-in under Red. Not one.

    Pearson was pretty good, but not anything like an All-American, and he was the pick of the litter. Fossier was a right/place right/time guy as a Freshman, but he's found his level. i could go on and on regarding the rest of them, but you get my point.

    Red has been an abject failure, no if's or but's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishman'81 View Post
    Drew, I really haven't seen one outstanding forward brought-in under Red. Not one.

    Pearson was pretty good, but not anything like an All-American, and he was the pick of the litter. Fossier was a right/place right/time guy as a Freshman, but he's found his level. i could go on and on regarding the rest of them, but you get my point.

    Red has been an abject failure, no if's or but's.
    You do realize Pearson was a junior and in top 97 percentile in hockey east🤘🏻

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackI View Post
    You do realize Pearson was a junior and in top 97 percentile in hockey east����
    Pearson was a good player for Maine...he and Fossier had a knack to know where each other were on the ice....now it will be seen if Pearson made Fossier a much better player or if Fossier can up his game...being the Captain and looked upon to score goals along with his deft passing ability's...hopefully he does not put too much pressure on himself...[imo].
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthMike View Post
    Im thinking this will be Reds last year behind the bench.
    Dont see a winning record this year and will be battling to at best get into HE playoffs and not finish in bottom level. It just might be enough for Ken to shake it up.
    Sticking with that anyway.
    Right now as of mid-July this is how I size up Hockey East; 1 through 4 will be BC/UMass/BU/UML, then a drop off with Providence and Northeastern battling for the 5/6 spots....then 7/8/9/10 will be imo 7/8 being Maine and UNH fighting it out for those two spots...with Vermont and UConn playing for the 9/10 spot....and Merrimack finishing 11th, as there season will be a long learning curve with 16 Freshman coming in and 3 being goaltenders....and to add to the spice of this I would not be surprised to see 2 Coaches in Hockey East Fired[1]and Bought-out[1]...that being Snedden fired at Vermont and Maine buying out the last year of Gendrons contract......all imo as of July 21st.....which could change SOME come Sept./Oct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ma#1ne Hky View Post
    Right now as of mid-July this is how I size up Hockey East; 1 through 4 will be BC/UMass/BU/UML, then a drop off with Providence and Northeastern battling for the 5/6 spots....then 7/8/9/10 will be imo 7/8 being Maine and UNH fighting it out for those two spots...with Vermont and UConn playing for the 9/10 spot....and Merrimack finishing 11th, as there season will be a long learning curve with 16 Freshman coming in and 3 being goaltenders....and to add to the spice of this I would not be surprised to see 2 Coaches in Hockey East Fired[1]and Bought-out[1]...that being Snedden fired at Vermont and Maine buying out the last year of Gendrons contract......all imo as of July 21st.....which could change SOME come Sept./Oct.
    I think your pretty close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ma#1ne Hky View Post
    Right now as of mid-July this is how I size up Hockey East; 1 through 4 will be BC/UMass/BU/UML, then a drop off with Providence and Northeastern battling for the 5/6 spots....then 7/8/9/10 will be imo 7/8 being Maine and UNH fighting it out for those two spots...with Vermont and UConn playing for the 9/10 spot....and Merrimack finishing 11th, as there season will be a long learning curve with 16 Freshman coming in and 3 being goaltenders....and to add to the spice of this I would not be surprised to see 2 Coaches in Hockey East Fired[1]and Bought-out[1]...that being Snedden fired at Vermont and Maine buying out the last year of Gendrons contract......all imo as of July 21st.....which could change SOME come Sept./Oct.
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthMike View Post
    I think your pretty close.
    Unless you've got a couple hundred large to donate to make it happen, Maine won't be buying out the last year of Red's contract. The money doesn't exist. It just won't happen. He'll go lame duck and recruits won't materialize, but the admin won't care - they're not paying two coaches for the same season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackI View Post
    You do realize Pearson was a junior and in top 97 percentile in hockey east🤘🏻
    At what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleRay View Post
    Unless you've got a couple hundred large to donate to make it happen, Maine won't be buying out the last year of Red's contract. The money doesn't exist. It just won't happen. He'll go lame duck and recruits won't materialize, but the admin won't care - they're not paying two coaches for the same season.
    And you know your so right, I hear what your saying and all you say is logic and common $ense....but I will go out on that LIMB and say this..."IF" Maine limps in with just 10 to 13 wins this season and just barley makes the playoffs and gets ripped by BC @ BC in two games or "IF" they fail to even make the 1-8 playoffs that AD Ralph will paint a different picture come the end of the season for Mister Gendron...and as far as LAME DUCK...Gendron has been that ever since his first contract expired. But I do agree with what you say...just see it going a different way....but then that's what's good with these forums...everyone has a opinion and I like reading all of them and weighing them out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMC View Post
    At what?
    Hockey.

    He was second team all hockey east. There are roughly 16 forward for each team X eleven teams. So I divided 6 by 176 total players and that has him at 97 percentile.

    I think that is outstanding. I realize he didnít win HE player of the year or win the Hobey... but being 97 percentile is outstanding in my book. And I think most people would agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackI View Post
    Hockey.

    He was second team all hockey east. There are roughly 16 forward for each team X eleven teams. So I divided 6 by 176 total players and that has him at 97 percentile.

    I think that is outstanding. I realize he didn’t win HE player of the year or win the Hobey... but being 97 percentile is outstanding in my book. And I think most people would agree.
    Interesting "math".

    Being a 2nd team All-Hockey East lately certainly doesn't equate to playing elite hockey, but he wasn't bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleRay View Post
    Unless you've got a couple hundred large to donate to make it happen, Maine won't be buying out the last year of Red's contract. The money doesn't exist. It just won't happen. He'll go lame duck and recruits won't materialize, but the admin won't care - they're not paying two coaches for the same season.
    Yeah, agree.

    When he was renewed for doing nothing, that screamed to me that Maine would never eat his contract. Still haven't figured that renewal out.

    Not at all worried about his recruits de-committing, in any case. He never brings in any real talent, anyway. Let them go to Bentley if they prefer. (If Bentley wants them.)

    Maine is a total re-build at this point. My guess is that Red will suck for 2 more years, then be put out to pasture. Then, Maine will suck for years to follow. Red was a disaster of a hire.
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