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    Quote Originally Posted by ticapnews View Post
    What makes you think those two teammates ever got a chance to make the case?
    Well, that is a good point. Maybe Ben and Alfie never tried to recruit young Gustafson. Wouldnít shock me a son of former champion game winner in OT goes unnoticed and heads to BC. Doesnít seem likely that Maine didnít scout or have conversations. But you must know, because common sense can often be thrown to the waste side with the way things have been run up there lately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackI View Post
    Well, that is a good point. Maybe Ben and Alfie never tried to recruit young Gustafson. Wouldnít shock me a son of former champion game winner in OT goes unnoticed and heads to BC. Doesnít seem likely that Maine didnít scout or have conversations. But you must know, because common sense can often be thrown to the waste side with the way things have been run up there lately.
    They undoubtedly knew about him and scouted him, but he might have had his mind set on a certain caliber school and Maine was never in the mix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew S. View Post
    I think Mariners dislike the people more than the place. Lot of whiners and people from away in southern maine. Iíd also add a lot of them want to force their way of life on others where most mariners believe people can do whatever they want.
    Does that "way of life" include keeping your yard picked up, paying your taxes and not being an a-hole neighbor? Oh....the horror!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackI View Post
    There is resentment over politics. North of Lewiston believes south of Lewiston controls the political side of things. Therefore they will always be referred to as a flat lander. Despite Penobscot valley being as flat as can be. Having said this, I do believe north of Lewiston has been neglected. Big time.
    Yup....no Electoral College in Maine......individual votes actually count!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ma#1ne Hky View Post
    There's two Maine's...North and South.
    It's more than North & South now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amc View Post
    also southern maine is the economic driver of the state. The tiny towns in aroostook county can all have their own high school because of a wealth transfer of southern maine's tax dollars. Then northern mainers ***** that portland spends too much money on social services.
    Amen!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by umhockey91 View Post
    Yup....no Electoral College in Maine......individual votes actually count!
    You think the only thing people vote on is presidential elections. Probably natural for you to think this way since the president has Maineís well being in his frontal lobe.

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    Re: Maine Black Bears 2019: Offseason Approaching

    From what I've seen years before Politics and Maine Hockey were something Mainers took pride in...…………..and didn't like to lose at.

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    I don't blame the kid for going to BC. Not sure how good he is but a Business Degree from BC is going to open a few more doors than a business degree from UMaine
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    Re: Maine Black Bears 2019: Offseason Approaching

    Quote Originally Posted by umhockey91 View Post
    Yup....no Electoral College in Maine......individual votes actually count!
    The EC exists in all States, but Maine parses the votes better than most.

    Still, I agree with the core of your post (one person, one vote, across the board).

    A Red vote doesn't count in NY any more than a Blue vote count counts in Wyoming, yet one Wyoming vote counts for nearly 3 CA votes.

    The winner-take-all-thing isn't about democracy; it's about the Pols working the status-quo to their (possible) benefit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ticapnews View Post
    They undoubtedly knew about him and scouted him, but he might have had his mind set on a certain caliber school and Maine was never in the mix.
    Agree. I also suspect that BC offered him more than what Maine could have offered. Several years ago Tim recruited J.D. Dudek heavily. He ended up going to BC because Maine couldn't match what BC was offering at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishman'81 View Post
    The EC exists in all States, but Maine parses the votes better than most.

    Still, I agree with the core of your post (one person, one vote, across the board).

    A Red vote doesn't count in NY any more than a Blue vote count counts in Wyoming, yet one Wyoming vote counts for nearly 3 CA votes.

    The winner-take-all-thing isn't about democracy; it's about the Pols working the status-quo to their (possible) benefit.
    In case you never took history, we are not a democracy. We are a representative republic. If you don't understand the difference look it up...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Runsub5 View Post
    Agree. I also suspect that BC offered him more than what Maine could have offered. Several years ago Tim recruited J.D. Dudek heavily. He ended up going to BC because Maine couldn't match what BC was offering at the time.
    What do you mean BC offered him more?? All HEA schools get the same amount of scholarships, there is nothing else a school can offer an athlete? Maybe it was the vast differences in facilities between the two schools?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernFriar View Post
    What do you mean BC offered him more?? All HEA schools get the same amount of scholarships, there is nothing else a school can offer an athlete? Maybe it was the vast differences in facilities between the two schools?
    I believe hockey can offer partials up to the equivalent of 18 total scholarships. FBS football and basketball are the only sports that do not permit scholarships to be split.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernFriar View Post
    What do you mean BC offered him more?? All HEA schools get the same amount of scholarships, there is nothing else a school can offer an athlete? Maybe it was the vast differences in facilities between the two schools?
    You can give partial schollies, you can give the full scholarship and you can also guarantee multiple years (though this is rare). One recruit demanded a four-year free ride from Shawn and he laughed the kid right off campus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernFriar View Post
    What do you mean BC offered him more?? All HEA schools get the same amount of scholarships, there is nothing else a school can offer an athlete? Maybe it was the vast differences in facilities between the two schools?
    I don't remember the exact details at this point. I suspect a partial scholarship may well have been one of the issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernFriar View Post
    What do you mean BC offered him more?? All HEA schools get the same amount of scholarships, there is nothing else a school can offer an athlete? Maybe it was the vast differences in facilities between the two schools?
    Schools can now offer more as part of the total cost of attendance, which includes meals, books and travel.

    Sean

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Pickett View Post
    Schools can now offer more as part of the total cost of attendance, which includes meals, books and travel.

    Sean
    That was it. Books and I think perhaps meals is what BC was able to offer over Maine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Runsub5 View Post
    That was it. Books and I think perhaps meals is what BC was able to offer over Maine.
    Do we know Maine isn't competitive with these others benefits? (Im saying benefit but not sure what it is other than part of the scholarship package) Or assuming?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthMike View Post
    Do we know Maine isn't competitive with these others benefits? (Im saying benefit but not sure what it is other than part of the scholarship package) Or assuming?
    Itís a stipend

    Been in place few years now ND was in league when implemented. At time I thought HEA was equally divided whether they would provideóbeside ND UConn, BC, UMass, PC for sure implemented.

    https://www.uscho.com/from-the-press-box/2015/07/28/with-cost-of-attendance-stipend-in-place-in-some-places-we-wait-to-see-impact/

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