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    Quote Originally Posted by CARDS_rule_the_Burgh View Post
    Moffatt is most definitely the front-runner at the start, but it wouldn’t surprise me at all if one or two interested candidates were of a caliber that is hard to turn down.
    Can you please provide your source within the department that told you he is most definitely the frontrunner at the start even though the hiring process hasn't even been started yet?

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    When I was a cadet at Norwich, I would go to the games but didn't understand or appreciate the larger DIII hockey landscape. I had a better understanding of the Middlebury rivalry, but that was mostly due to old alums (read: Charlie Crosby) telling stories of getting into brawls at football games back in the day. I didn't know much about Plattsburgh other than the fact that they had awesome jerseys. It wasn't until after graduating that I really became a fan of the DIII game and understood the stature of McShane, Beaney, and Emery. By all accounts, all three of them were and are class acts. The story about the grace and heart Coach Emery showed Coach Gosek made me tear up a bit. Excellent coach, sounds like a better man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pux44 View Post
    Can you please provide your source within the department that told you he is most definitely the frontrunner at the start even though the hiring process hasn't even been started yet?
    My source is logical thinking. Moffatt is resigned a head coaching position to come back as an assistant at Plattsburgh, which certainly opens up the possibility that replacing Emery was already part of the discussion. Do I know this to 100% be the case? No, of course not. I am participating on this fan forum as a fan, not as a journalist. I’m allowed to have opinions and to speculate just as much as anybody else here.

    All of that said, I hope Mike Howard hires the applicant he genuinely believes to be the best for the job. There’s no doubt the last few seasons have not quite met the standards the Plattsburgh faithful were once used to, and the program needs somebody to turn that downward slide around.

    You’re right to point out the concerns on Moffatt’s résumé, of course. His record at Castleton was far from great. On the recruiting front, he shares the responsibility for the struggles of the last few years. Most disturbing is the fact that Moffatt had total control of the powerplay, and that unit was among the worst in Division III this year... but despite all of that, I still believe Moffatt is at least the early front-runner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pux44 View Post
    Can you please provide your source within the department that told you he is most definitely the frontrunner at the start even though the hiring process hasn't even been started yet?
    Of course he's the front runner - as of right now he's the only candidate. But as you've read from every Plattsburgh fan that has commented, we have our reservations about just giving him the keys to the car. We want a thorough search and the best candidate that applies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakont55 View Post
    Many of my Hockey friends including myself have been around for many years of Laker, Plattsburgh battles. Always on the edge of your seats. Coach Emery was responsible for much hair pulling in the OZ. Great epic battles. He was earlier referred to as the “Laker killer”. He has been a brilliant coach.. Many of us if the truth be known could not stand to hear his name even mentioned.
    So let me tell you why we here in the OZ started to change. Two years ago when our Coach’s wife passed away from fighting Ovarian Cancer for a long time we met a different Coach Emery. We knew he was on the phone with Coach Gosek every week about Mary. We knew he contributed heavy to Mary’s foundation. On the day of services for Mary it rained all day. There was a 4 to 5 hour waiting line to get into the funeral home. I looked up and there was Coach Emery with his assistant standing in the rain, they had driven the long 4 hours to get to Oswego that day. We now had a better feeling for the man that he is. It has been said that good things happen to good people. Coach Emery was certainly a very successful Coach. Best to him in his retirement
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    I couldn't stand the guy. He always seemed to have our number, always just tore our hearts out at the absolute worst times. Sort of an evil Fred Shero with "the fog". Talking mysteriously into his cuff. Taking time outs at seemingly crazy times, pulling goalies with 5 minutes left- only to have it work and crush us. Seemed rough on his players.

    Then Mary got sick and we saw who the guy really was. After games during the handshake he would pick out Mary in the crowd and give her a wave and a solidarity fist. When I saw him standing in line at Mary's wake I realized that I'd had him all wrong. Then the next game at the Marano Center he sent his team out on Oswego ice for warmups all wearing "Mary Gosek" jerseys. He had me. Congratulations Coach Emery and thanks. Welcome to retirement- you'll love it.
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    I certainly wish Bob all the best in retirement. As the years have gone by, I’ve run into him more than a few times. Whether it was in Duluth, Buffalo, Or the original 4 Primelink sites, he would always at least stop and say ‘hi’. No, he want perfect (none of us is), and I didn’t always agree with some things, but there was no question he is a great coach. And if you did get to know him even a little, a lot more good came out than bad, by far.
    Beaney, Emery and McShane. Always great competition, but always great respect among them.
    As far as the next coach, he won’t be the replacement-he will simply be the next coach. Do a search, and pick the best one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColdInRomney View Post
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    I couldn't stand the guy. He always seemed to have our number, always just tore our hearts out at the absolute worst times. Sort of an evil Fred Shero with "the fog". Talking mysteriously into his cuff. Taking time outs at seemingly crazy times, pulling goalies with 5 minutes left- only to have it work and crush us. Seemed rough on his players.

    Then Mary got sick and we saw who the guy really was. After games during the handshake he would pick out Mary in the crowd and give her a wave and a solidarity fist. When I saw him standing in line at Mary's wake I realized that I'd had him all wrong. Then the next game at the Marano Center he sent his team out on Oswego ice for warmups all wearing "Mary Gosek" jerseys. He had me. Congratulations Coach Emery and thanks. Welcome to retirement- you'll love it.
    Ditto.....Bob’s unwavering support of Mary and Ed will always be the lens I view him through...Congrats Coach.

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    If Moffat is not selected, does he leave?
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    Quote Originally Posted by joecct View Post
    If Moffat is not selected, does he leave?
    I would think so. A new coach would bring his own assistant(s), wouldn’t he?

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    As an Oswego student, Emery struck fear in all of us. Lakers went 3-6-1 during my four years there. He was always a joy to interview for WTOP during whiteout, cracked a ton of jokes. But I'm telling you when the team came out white their warmup jerseys and Mary Gosek's name on the back, that may have been my favorite memory from all four years. What a class act.

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    I couldn't stand the guy. He always seemed to have our number, always just tore our hearts out at the absolute worst times. Sort of an evil Fred Shero with "the fog". Talking mysteriously into his cuff. Taking time outs at seemingly crazy times, pulling goalies with 5 minutes left- only to have it work and crush us. Seemed rough on his players.

    Then Mary got sick and we saw who the guy really was. After games during the handshake he would pick out Mary in the crowd and give her a wave and a solidarity fist. When I saw him standing in line at Mary's wake I realized that I'd had him all wrong. Then the next game at the Marano Center he sent his team out on Oswego ice for warmups all wearing "Mary Gosek" jerseys. He had me. Congratulations Coach Emery and thanks. Welcome to retirement- you'll love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CARDS_rule_the_Burgh View Post
    Moffatt is most definitely the front-runner at the start, but it wouldn’t surprise me at all if one or two interested candidates were of a caliber that is hard to turn down.
    I don’t think Every Plattsburgh fan feels that way. I feel Steve Moffat with make Cardinal Hockey proud!

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    Quote Originally Posted by spwood View Post
    Of course he's the front runner - as of right now he's the only candidate. But as you've read from every Plattsburgh fan that has commented, we have our reservations about just giving him the keys to the car. We want a thorough search and the best candidate that applies.
    I don’t believe you speak for every Plattsburgh fan. I believe he would do an excellent job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spwood View Post
    I would think so. A new coach would bring his own assistant(s), wouldn’t he?
    That didn’t happen at Norwich, and it turned out pretty good.

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    I don’t believe you speak for every Plattsburgh fan. I believe he would do an excellent job.
    I don't believe I said I speak for every Plattsburgh fan. At the time I posted, all of the commenters mentioned wanting a full search for the best candidate as we had reservations for a coach that won an average of just over 10 wins a year in his only head coaching gig. Plus he was the top assistant on a Plattsburgh team that needed a late season surge to crack .500 this year.

    If he's the best candidate to apply, by all means hire him. I, for one, would like to see a legitimate search first.
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    I would think so. A new coach would bring his own assistant(s), wouldn’t he?
    That's not that easy to do at a state school. You can't just get rid of people for no reason. And remember, at the SUNY schools, all coaches are technically instructors (but not professors), so they fall under the same rules as any other instructor at the school when it comes to hiring and firing.
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    First and foremost this is to take NOTHING away from what Bob did with respect to Mary and the whole Oswego family, but this man didn't just start being like this in the past few seasons. When my grandmother (an avid Cardinal fan from the 80's) passed away in the mid 90's, Bob showed up to the funeral. I, at the time, was a young pre-teen and Cardinal hockey was THE team and Bob was THE coach. I was drawn to his passion on and off the ice, but watching him show up to "just a fans" funeral meant a lot to me. It didn't stop there. When my uncle was diagnosed with brain cancer in his early 20's, Bob would send cards and have players drop in to see him in the hospital during his several trips. Again, my uncle was just one of the fans. He didn't give thousands to the program. He wasn't some politician or public figure. He just loved Cardinal Hockey (and was a bit loud at time). By this time I was a late teen, and still held Bob and Cardinal hockey on a high pedestal.

    The other thing I loved about Bob, tho some would disagree, was his treatment towards his players. Was he loud? Yes. Did he go over the top sometimes? Maybe. Was he in your face? You're **** right. But did he want the best out of his players, both on and off the ice? Absolutely! I will never forget to this day him sitting his best player (and probably a Top 15 of all time player) for a SUNYAC Finals playoff game because he had failed a test. Not a class, not a season, a test. He held his players accountable no matter who they were, or how important they were to the team. You got a game misconduct, you were sitting. Again, he didn't care who you were or how big the next game was, you sat (and I'm not talking about the extra game the rules can give). We see teams (not naming names) who consistently produce "goon" games with no repercussions, not in Bob's house. For years Plattsburgh was one of (if not the best) least penalized teams in the nation. Discipline.

    As I have grown and am now coaching high end youth travel teams myself, while I do have my own style, I would be lying if I said Ive taken nothing from what I've watch in Bob over the years. Both on and off the ice. Did he come across as arrogant sometimes, especially to opposing fans? Most likely. Was it justified tho? I can tell you this, if you ever needed something, Bob would be the first in line to help in some way that he was allowed.

    But on the flip side, as Bob has children the same age as my own, I can only imagine how tough it has been to give 110% to his program, and balance family life. How many games has he missed of his kids when he is in Buffalo or Canada on a recruiting trip? I can only imagine the weight that has been lifted off of his shoulders now that he only has to be a Dad to 3 kids instead of 33 each year. I still won't be surprised in another 8-10 years you see Bob's name appear in another teams media guide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spwood View Post
    I don't believe I said I speak for every Plattsburgh fan. At the time I posted, all of the commenters mentioned wanting a full search for the best candidate as we had reservations for a coach that won an average of just over 10 wins a year in his only head coaching gig. Plus he was the top assistant on a Plattsburgh team that needed a late season surge to crack .500 this year.

    If he's the best candidate to apply, by all means hire him. I, for one, would like to see a legitimate search first.
    You have to kind of take some posts with a grain of salt. Most of the "pro-Moff" fans also see nothing wrong with the current team. They also see no "trend" over the past few years in Cardinal Country. Do I think Moff is a quality coach? Absolutely. There are a ton of schools who would probably hire him. But is he the only/right choice? Debatable. And I am sorry to say, until Plattsburgh State can figure out its financial situation and start offering the same packages as other schools, it won't matter who steps in. Scotty Bowman isn't going to put Plattsburgh to the dominant SUNYAC force of the late 90s early 2000's. As I posted on BookFace, there are too many factors as to the downfall of the great empire that was once Plattsburgh State mens ice hockey. And please don't give me the "well the womens team...."

    The Plattsburgh State AD and Administration have a HUGE decision to make in the upcoming weeks. Probably, and arguably, the biggest decision in school history since 1987. This team is one of, if not the most, influential sports hockey programs to a community in DIII. While other schools have a large following, the majority of Plattsburgh has always been COMMUNITY based and not STUDENT based (ala Geneseo and to an extent Oswego). If the Administration doesn't make a quality (and right) hire, and the team continues down this downward path, the community will stop coming. Yes you will get the "diehard?" fans (love you Birds) who will go and cheer through a winless season, but the majority of fans will leave. With them leaving, they take their $$$, sponsors and donations. If the men's hockey program goes down the tube, what's left? A women's team that wins Natty's but only gets 500 fans a game?

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    The other thing I loved about Bob, tho some would disagree, was his treatment towards his players. Was he loud? Yes. Did he go over the top sometimes? Maybe. Was he in your face? You're **** right. But did he want the best out of his players, both on and off the ice? Absolutely! I will never forget to this day him sitting his best player (and probably a Top 15 of all time player) for a SUNYAC Finals playoff game because he had failed a test. Not a class, not a season, a test. He held his players accountable no matter who they were, or how important they were to the team. You got a game misconduct, you were sitting. Again, he didn't care who you were or how big the next game was, you sat (and I'm not talking about the extra game the rules can give). We see teams (not naming names) who consistently produce "goon" games with no repercussions, not in Bob's house. For years Plattsburgh was one of (if not the best) least penalized teams in the nation. Discipline.
    The first time I really saw Bob "in action" was in 1993 at the frozen four. I traveled out to Minnesota as a spectator to visit my brother who lived down the street from Maplewood Arena, the first neutral host site for D3.

    Back then, they still had a consolation game, and it was Plattsburgh against Elmira. Of course, as we all know, consolation games in a national tournament are worthless and nobody wants to play in them. The game was, to say the least, a bit "rough."

    I want to say it was the third period when a Plattsburgh player commits a dumb penalty (not like a trip or something, along the lines of an illegal hit). Emery calls the ref over. The ref then goes to the penalty box. The player then gets out and leaves the ice.

    That's right, Emery told the ref to kick his player out. Well, technically, he was telling the ref he was kicking the player out.
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    Coach Emery will be on live with local radio station WCVP 101.3 The Game at around 4:40 PM ET today. Click here to listen live.


    EDIT: The interview aired and there are two main takeaways:

    1) Emery intends to keep working in hockey.

    2) Emery fully endorsed Steve Moffat as the next head coach, saying the administration would be crazy not to hire him and that it would harm recruiting to not hire him.
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