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    Re: RPI 2019 Off-Season: Where Did Everyone Go?

    Today is 14 March 2019. There are 205 days until RPI's next game.


    This is based upon 5 October 2019 for the start of next season.
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    Re: RPI 2019 Off-Season: Where Did Everyone Go?

    Quote Originally Posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
    OK, fair enough. We definitely need to start hitting the net.

    Just out of curiosity, is it something you see in Zieky, or just not quite there? I know he's only around one more year, but at least in the short term...
    Just not a big enough sample size at RPI. He did not get much of a chance at Providence, so I will wait and see.
    With Zieky and Hayhurst, we have two decent scorers, but we don't have anyone that makes the opponents focus on giving them some extra room. That would open up the offense for everyone.
    I have high hopes for Hallbauer, but if the team just watches him skate around like they did with Props, his talents will go to waste.
    He will create space, but the team has to react and not just watch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by engineerhockeyfan View Post
    Just not a big enough sample size at RPI. He did not get much of a chance at Providence, so I will wait and see.
    With Zieky and Hayhurst, we have two decent scorers, but we don't have anyone that makes the opponents focus on giving them some extra room. That would open up the offense for everyone.
    I have high hopes for Hallbauer, but if the team just watches him skate around like they did with Props, his talents will go to waste.
    He will create space, but the team has to react and not just watch.
    That makes sense, and also speaks to the culture I mentioned around the time Hayhurst came back. Sure, there were a number of people that interpreted the argument as "Hayhurst sucks" (despite making perfectly clear that that wasn't the point), but they were mistaken in the true meaning of the message, which is exactly what you have described. I know you probably disagree with the nickname that I had given it because of the meaning when politically applied, but it's the only explanation I really see as to what's going on. If Hayhurst, or Praps, or Hallbauer, or any other "sniper" or "natural goal scorer" that comes along are there, the others likely feel that said person will make the contributions so they don't have to put in as much of an effort. Zieky does not succumb to this temptation, and is therefore able to find success. As for the others, well, maybe they do, especially when we found out, during Hayhurst's injury, that everyone else stepped up and the team went on a tear.

    The question for Coach Smith is: How does he get the team to understand that everyone must contribute or the team is doomed? Is that what Adessa installed by being a disciplinarian? Is that maybe where Appert failed, given his national, i.e. "all-star", experience? It's obvious Smith has that concept in mind, but now comes the time for execution, as the year of reckoning looms ahead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
    That makes sense, and also speaks to the culture I mentioned around the time Hayhurst came back. Sure, there were a number of people that interpreted the argument as "Hayhurst sucks" (despite making perfectly clear that that wasn't the point), but they were mistaken in the true meaning of the message, which is exactly what you have described. I know you probably disagree with the nickname that I had given it because of the meaning when politically applied, but it's the only explanation I really see as to what's going on. If Hayhurst, or Praps, or Hallbauer, or any other "sniper" or "natural goal scorer" that comes along are there, the others likely feel that said person will make the contributions so they don't have to put in as much of an effort. Zieky does not succumb to this temptation, and is therefore able to find success. As for the others, well, maybe they do, especially when we found out, during Hayhurst's injury, that everyone else stepped up and the team went on a tear.

    The question for Coach Smith is: How does he get the team to understand that everyone must contribute or the team is doomed? Is that what Adessa installed by being a disciplinarian? Is that maybe where Appert failed, given his national, i.e. "all-star", experience? It's obvious Smith has that concept in mind, but now comes the time for execution, as the year of reckoning looms ahead.
    If we are talking about RPI hockey, I only see a community that wants the best for the team. No politics at all.
    We need a player that will make space for the others on the team, to get the most and best scoring opportunities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by engineerhockeyfan View Post
    If we are talking about RPI hockey, I only see a community that wants the best for the team. No politics at all.
    We need a player that will make space for the others on the team, to get the most and best scoring opportunities.
    As for my politics, I will explain once and never mention politics again on this board.
    I'm a registered independent. I see good and bad in both parties and will not follow either party line. I will make up mind own mind as to what I want in a representative based on my own values.
    That's it.
    Had nothing to do with politics, at least not directly. The nickname I had given was "Socialism in Sports". But I digress.

    A player can make space until the cows come home, but unless the other players are going to do something about that space, then any sort of generation will be easily defended.

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    Re: RPI 2019 Off-Season: Where Did Everyone Go?

    What would constitute a successful season next year ?

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    What would constitute a successful season next year ?
    No one complaining, for starters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rvd5star69 View Post
    What would constitute a successful season next year ?
    In my opinion, more wins than losses (whether in league or across the board), along with significant progress in remedying the maladies we have seen and discussed in the past year. The latter is much more important than the former. We showed this year we have the ability to do it, now we need to do it on a somewhat consistent basis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jericho View Post
    No one complaining, for starters.
    Then write it off and do some sacking now, because that's never going to happen. Especially around Freakout and playoffs.

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    Re: RPI 2019 Off-Season: Where Did Everyone Go?

    Quote Originally Posted by rvd5star69 View Post
    What would constitute a successful season next year ?
    At least .500, comfortable first round home-ice position, wins in Black Friday (Saturday?) and Freakout!, and a playoff series win.
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    .500 record, first round at home and win the first round at least

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    Quote Originally Posted by rvd5star69 View Post
    What would constitute a successful season next year ?
    For the program - success =finally reaching the final four of the ECAC and could care less if they lose there. But would be satisfied as many others have posted with a winning season in the league and overall and winning one playoff series.
    For myself - getting through a season without needing some sort of surgical repair and not having to lose part of an organ!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrDemento View Post
    For the program - success =finally reaching the final four of the ECAC and could care less if they lose there. But would be satisfied as many others have posted with a winning season in the league and overall and winning one playoff series.
    For myself - getting through a season without needing some sort of surgical repair and not having to lose part of an organ!
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    Re: RPI 2019 Off-Season: Where Did Everyone Go?

    Today is 15 March 2019. There are 204 days until RPI's next game.


    This is based upon 5 October 2019 for the start of next season.
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    Re: RPI 2019 Off-Season: Where Did Everyone Go?

    FWIW, Ryan Mahshie, the new recruit, has scored more than a goal every other game. NZ called him a natural goal scorer but only ranks him as 3.00

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post

    A player can make space until the cows come home, but unless the other players are going to do something about that space, then any sort of generation will be easily defended.
    That is true, and that is where coaching comes in. Praps used to skate around the offensive zone and his teammates stood around and watched him until he lost the puck.
    If Smith doesn't put in a system where the rest of the team moves to open spaces as Hallbauer is doing his thing, we will get nothing out of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rvd5star69 View Post
    What would constitute a successful season next year ?
    Average three goals a game. Kill over 80% of penalties. Convert at least 17% of power plays.
    If that happens, the wins will come.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Baer View Post
    FWIW, Ryan Mahshie, the new recruit, has scored more than a goal every other game. NZ called him a natural goal scorer but only ranks him as 3.00

    Interesting RB. On a team loaded with D1 commits he was still unsigned. What Do you think is the reason for his low NZ rating is based on? When do you think he'll be in Troy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wicked Slappaahs View Post
    Interesting RB. On a team loaded with D1 commits he was still unsigned. What Do you think is the reason for his low NZ rating is based on? When do you think he'll be in Troy?
    If he has a +/- rating, take out the goals (assume a percentage based on the team's PP%). What's left?

    If he's scoring that much and rated low, either he's a big fish in a small pond, or he only knows how to play on that side of the centre line.

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