Bracketology 1.1 - before the conference tournaments. Don't be upset

[spwood]

Re: Bracketology 1.1 - before the conference tournaments. Don't be upset

I thought there was no Pool B this year.

Old habits die hard!

[PrezdeJohnson09]

I thought there was no Pool B this year.

You’re right. Old habits die hard. Just take the B and make it a C and it’s still the same field

[Russell Jaslow]

You’re right. Old habits die hard. Just take the B and make it a C and it’s still the same field

I knew it didn’t change the field. I just had to bust on you. :-)

[joecct]

Re: Bracketology 1.1 - before the conference tournaments. Don't be upset

I wonder if the 2 games + (the dreaded) mini game format will take a hit as a result of the PWR. Then again, Adrian would be dead in the water if the NCHA was a one and done tournament.

Wish we had a PWR predictor like D1. It would be fun to model the PWR with various tournament outcomes.

[Birdwatcher]

I wonder if the 2 games + (the dreaded) mini game format will take a hit as a result of the PWR. Then again, Adrian would be dead in the water if the NCHA was a one and done tournament.

Wish we had a PWR predictor like D1. It would be fun to model the PWR with various tournament outcomes.

DMG has no effect on PWR ....not at all considered.

[NUProf]

Re: Bracketology 1.1 - before the conference tournaments. Don't be upset

Adrian was worse off after the first loss, so the split was better on their PWR than a loss and season done.
(Actually we could just go by the RPI and ignore the PWR. The PWR and RPI are exactly the same all the way down to number 23)

[joecct]

DMG has no effect on PWR ....not at all considered.

I know. But 1-1 hurts the PWR.

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Prof

Lack of Common Opponents when comparing teams from opposite regions?

[Fishman'81]

Re: Bracketology 1.1 - before the conference tournaments. Don't be upset

Adrian was worse off after the first loss, so the split was better on their PWR than a loss and season done.
(Actually we could just go by the RPI and ignore the PWR. The PWR and RPI are exactly the same all the way down to number 23)

Usually works-out that way...

But the KRACH makes more sense.

[Sir Nubs]

Re: Bracketology 1.1 - before the conference tournaments. Don't be upset

I know. But 1-1 hurts the PWR.

1-1 is better than 0-1, which is what would have happened had the NCHA not used this format. It is designed to protect the higher seeds from being upset in a one off.

[PrezdeJohnson09]

1-1 is better than 0-1, which is what would have happened had the NCHA not used this format. It is designed to protect the higher seeds from being upset in a one off.

I’m curious to see if other leagues like the SUNY or NEHC consider going to the 2 game series format. I think in PWR era, that’s the format to use.

[joecct]

I’m curious to see if other leagues like the SUNY or NEHC consider going to the 2 game series format. I think in PWR era, that’s the format to use.

That would be nice!

Well it may be a while, but the rent a rink schools (SUF & JWU) may have difficulty in clearing Friday and Saturday ice, especially when Saturday could be open ended.

[Russell Jaslow]

Re: Bracketology 1.1 - before the conference tournaments. Don't be upset

I’m curious to see if other leagues like the SUNY or NEHC consider going to the 2 game series format. I think in PWR era, that’s the format to use.

For now, PWR is a two-year experiment. So, unless it becomes permanent, there is no sense considering changing the conference playoff format.

[Russell Jaslow]

Re: Bracketology 1.1 - before the conference tournaments. Don't be upset

But the KRACH makes more sense.

Does someone have the KRACH numbers for D3? It would be nice to compare the outcome.

[KnightsOfTheRound]

Re: Bracketology 1.1 - before the conference tournaments. Don't be upset

1-1 is better than 0-1, which is what would have happened had the NCHA not used this format. It is designed to protect the higher seeds from being upset in a one off.

The problem with this logic is that the conference tournament isn't over yet and the only thing that matters is the PWR once the tournaments are over. Remember, with only one exception, every team in the conference tournament gets eliminated eventually by losing.

Let's keep using Adrian as an example. The best case scenario for Adrian the rest of the NCHA tournament is they win two more games. The worst case scenario is they lose one more. The in-between scenario is they go 1-1.

Best case: Adrian's NCHA tournament record is 3-1. That's good and it will help their PWR! But it won't matter as much because they will have won the autobid anyway. It will only matter for seeding.

Worst case: Adrian's NCHA tournament record is 1-2. If that happens are they better off than if they just lost one game and were eliminated from the tournament? I doubt it.

In conclusion, I'm not at all convinced the two-game plus a mini game format helps bubble teams because it allows them the opportunity to lose more games in their conference tournaments.

[Ed Trefzger]

Re: Bracketology 1.1 - before the conference tournaments. Don't be upset

Does someone have the KRACH numbers for D3? It would be nice to compare the outcome.

https://www.uscho.com/rankings/krach/d-iii-men/


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