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  • Re: Bracketology 1.1 - before the conference tournaments. Don't be upset

    Originally posted by altazo View Post
    Nah, SNC had to play a first round game in ‘11 or ‘12 as the tournaments #1 overall seed. They won it all that season.

    No big deal. The best team in the tournament seems to win most every year, regardless if they received a bye to the quarters.
    That was in 2012, we beat St. Thomas, Gustavus Adolphus, Norwich and Oswego on the way to the National Championship...
    I have no problem in having to play in the first round...
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    • Re: Bracketology 1.1 - before the conference tournaments. Don't be upset

      I'd propose a WSP auto final 4 bid, going unbeaten is a feat that is fitting of that reward. Then you have a quarter determining the second west team in. And let the east beat itself into a pulp with Genny and Nor being the gate keepers. Have a bottom 2 seeds as play ins. Pretty radical but not that crazy when you sit and think about it.

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      • Originally posted by Russell Jaslow View Post
        Good point. As was GB post. But in both cases, you’re still gambling,
        Very good, Russell. Very, very good!
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        • Originally posted by joecct View Post

          St. Norbert leads the "I got screwed" thread
          I guarantee you SNC has no problem playing this Saturday. If any team got screwed it’s Point - they now have to play SNC or Augsburg in the quarterfinal round rather than Adrian.

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          • Re: Bracketology 1.1 - before the conference tournaments. Don't be upset

            D3hockey and Webb have a variation on a theme. Very interesting.

            https://www.d3hockey.com/bracketolog...nal-projection
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            • Originally posted by OZrebel View Post
              Oswego, haven't been relevant in 5 years, havent won it in over a decade. But yeah pitchforks and **** those guys. Let's just give the west the easy road again.

              Is Oswego deserving of a Bye? Not in my opinion.

              I'd prefer to host a first round anyways. Forget the bye, keep em fresh with games.
              See d3hockey referenced above.
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              • Re: Bracketology 1.1 - before the conference tournaments. Don't be upset

                I had forgotten Curry and Geneseo are more than 500 miles away (In fairness, I tried to forget everything about that game). Some good insight before tomorrow.
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                • Re: Bracketology 1.1 - before the conference tournaments. Don't be upset

                  Boy that Webb guy has done his homework....it looks like

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                  • Originally posted by NUProf View Post
                    I don't disagree, but I'd rather the beneficiary of the undeserved bye be anybody but Oswego.
                    Well, that’s your personal problem....
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                    • Originally posted by OZrebel View Post
                      I'd propose a WSP auto final 4 bid, going unbeaten is a feat that is fitting of that reward. Then you have a quarter determining the second west team in. And let the east beat itself into a pulp with Genny and Nor being the gate keepers. Have a bottom 2 seeds as play ins. Pretty radical but not that crazy when you sit and think about it.
                      I was thinking about this possibility this morning. That would certainly be an interesting looking bracket.
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                      • Re: Bracketology 1.1 - before the conference tournaments. Don't be upset

                        Originally posted by joecct View Post
                        See d3hockey referenced above.
                        The difference between Oswego's strength of schedule and 2nd place in SOS is the difference between 2nd and 14th. Not sure about the "not deserving" part, they took on a tough non-conference schedule (Salve, Williams X2, Utica, Hobart) along with being in the conference that had a .611% for inter-conference records, only .005% behind the NEHC.

                        I'll obviously disagree with you about the relevancy part, but that's just semantics. To say they aren't deserving ignores all of the data.

                        Originally posted by OZrebel View Post
                        Oswego, haven't been relevant in 5 years, havent won it in over a decade. But yeah pitchforks and **** those guys. Let's just give the west the easy road again.

                        Is Oswego deserving of a Bye? Not in my opinion.

                        I'd prefer to host a first round anyways. Forget the bye, keep em fresh with games.

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                        • Re: Bracketology 1.1 - before the conference tournaments. Don't be upset

                          Does anybody have the link to the selection show? I couldn't find it on ncaa.com yet.
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                          • Originally posted by BKrosky View Post
                            The difference between Oswego's strength of schedule and 2nd place in SOS is the difference between 2nd and 14th. Not sure about the "not deserving" part, they took on a tough non-conference schedule (Salve, Williams X2, Utica, Hobart) along with being in the conference that had a .611% for inter-conference records, only .005% behind the NEHC.

                            I'll obviously disagree with you about the relevancy part, but that's just semantics. To say they aren't deserving ignores all of the data.
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                            • Re: Bracketology 1.1 - before the conference tournaments. Don't be upset

                              The more I look at Webb's Bracket B, the more I really like it for keeping bracket integrity more or less intact while conforming with the realities of the NCAA's requirements (sorry Norwich, for getting a 1st round game). I just wonder how much of a precedent the Curry example actually is. Curry is 584 miles from Geneseo, vs 884 miles between Oswego and St. Norbert. 84 miles is an extra hour and a half on the bus, whereas 884 miles would absolutely require a flight (I can't remember if Curry bussed it or not). Either way, it would be great if they were willing to fly the winner of that game out.

                              Edit: It was Colby, not Curry
                              Last edited by KnightsOfTheRound; 03-04-2019, 09:17 AM.
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                              • Originally posted by KnightsOfTheRound View Post
                                The more I look at Webb's Bracket B, the more I really like it for keeping bracket integrity more or less intact while conforming with the realities of the NCAA's requirements (sorry Norwich, for getting a 1st round game). I just wonder how much of a precedent the Curry example actually is. Curry is 584 miles from Geneseo, vs 884 miles between Oswego and St. Norbert. 84 miles is an extra hour and a half on the bus, whereas 884 miles would absolutely require a flight (I can't remember if Curry bussed it or not). Either way, it would be great if they were willing to fly the winner of that game out.
                                Curry never played Geneseo in the NCAA’s ? Not sure where you got that? They have been to Plattsburgh, Middlebury, Elmira, Norwich??

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