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  • Originally posted by Russell Jaslow View Post
    This whine is used over and over and over again. But it doesn't matter. As NUProf always jokes, the NCAA will give us a tiny bit of money and us D3 folks better be grateful for it.

    But on a serious note, the NCAA establishes a budget. Whether you like the amount or not. And they expect each sport to stay within that budget. Now having said that, they will at times be flexible. And they have flown three teams (or more) during the course of a tournament. We'll see. IMO, it wouldn't surprise me if they put the championship weekend out west no matter how many flights it takes.
    I know I know. I guess it should have said exaggeration and sarcasm alert....
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    • Re: Bracketology 1.1 - before the conference tournaments. Don't be upset

      Originally posted by GB Puck Fan View Post
      And it’s where the jet picked up UWSP before stopping in GB to get SNC on the way to Lewiston ME, if I remember correctly.
      Bet the flight back was awkward...
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        Originally posted by GB Puck Fan View Post
        For Stevens Point you fly to Central Wisconsin Airport is in Mosinee. That’s about 29 miles to KB Willett

        And it’s where the jet picked up UWSP before stopping in GB to get SNC on the way to Lewiston ME, if I remember correctly.

        And BILP - CWA has commercial service to MSP, ORD and DTW
        So you're telling me that instead of driving 100ish miles to the Green Bay airport, UWSP drove 30 miles and then flew 90 miles?
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          Originally posted by GB Puck Fan View Post
          And BILP - CWA has commercial service to MSP, ORD and DTW
          And you're telling me this basic fact why?
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          • Originally posted by BetterInLakePlacid View Post
            And you're telling me this basic fact why?
            You said “unless you take a private jet you can’t fly to Stevens Point.”

            I suppose, technically , that’s true. But I was pointing out that CWA is the airport that serves SP area.

            And while there is the Stevens Point Muni Airport, a 20 minute drive to the airport (CWA) is certainly reasonable, and closer than the airport in many larger areas. And a flight to Green Bay, Madison or Milwaukee isn’t necessary.

            Just some helpful geography for those thinking that for Point hosting they would have to fly to GRB
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            • Re: Bracketology 1.1 - before the conference tournaments. Don't be upset

              Originally posted by KnightsOfTheRound View Post
              Bet the flight back was awkward...
              St. Norbert flew home alone in 2014. The only time it shared a flight was out of Appleton on the way out in 2018.

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              • Re: Bracketology 1.1 - before the conference tournaments. Don't be upset

                Also for context, Norwich and Plattsburgh on the women's hockey side chartered a flight out of Burlington, Vt. in 2017 together. Flew out together and flew back in together. However, the women also had the consolation game so both teams played both days.

                I believe Plattsburgh, Middlebury, Elmira all flew out of Albany, NY together in 2013 for the women's hockey final four in Superior, Wis. as well.
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                  Originally posted by Sir Nubs View Post
                  Why would you fly into Madison when Appleton and even Green Bay are much closer? It takes 2 minutes to research these things before you post.
                  I looked a map. I did not realize Appleton had a commercial airport. A thousand pardons for my ignorance, you hockey puck!
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                    Originally posted by sacole13 View Post
                    the NCAA has money coming out it's *****, they just have to move it from one program to another. NCAA DI hoops makes more than enough money.
                    Unfortunately, despite all the noise about the importance of "student athletes," and the fact that there are a lot more of them in DIII than in DI, the NCAA provides 3% of its budget for DIII championships (DIII being of course the biggest division of the three). It is what it is, and worrying about what is fair or not fair gets us nowhere. I'm sure that it would be possible to get three flights (instead of one) for the "Less than 0 degrees Celsius 4", but it will probably mean that they will really hold the line on flights for one of the spring sports.
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                      Originally posted by NUProf View Post
                      Unfortunately, despite all the noise about the importance of "student athletes," and the fact that there are a lot more of them in DIII than in DI, the NCAA provides 3% of its budget for DIII championships (DIII being of course the biggest division of the three). It is what it is, and worrying about what is fair or not fair gets us nowhere. I'm sure that it would be possible to get three flights (instead of one) for the "Less than 0 degrees Celsius 4", but it will probably mean that they will really hold the line on flights for one of the spring sports.
                      oh I don't honestly expect that but I can always complain
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                      • Re: Bracketology 1.1 - before the conference tournaments. Don't be upset

                        Mass-Boston loses to Hobart. That puts Norwich in the hypothetical AQ slot and will Mass-Boston drop down below the 4th AL slot?

                        Edit: Yup. Adrian slides in. ALs are
                        UWSP
                        Oswego
                        Hobart
                        Adrian

                        Mass-Boston beats Adrian in WPct but loses the all important RPI. I don't believe CoP factors in.
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                        • Re: Bracketology 1.1 - before the conference tournaments. Don't be upset

                          One week to go and we see a couple more changes based off this past week's results.

                          SUNYAC - Geneseo (2)
                          CCC - Salve Regina (11)
                          MASCAC - Plymouth State (31)
                          MIAC - Augsburg (10)
                          NCHA - St. Norbert (5)
                          NEHC - Norwich (3)
                          NESCAC - Trinity (9)
                          UCHC - Utica (12)

                          Pool C - Stevens Point (1)
                          Pool C - Oswego (4)
                          Pool C - Hobart (6)
                          Pool C - Adrian (7)

                          Now we're back to lots of different scenarios for how to deal with Adrian. Adrian can play St. Norbert, Oswego, Hobart and Geneseo all without flying.

                          I think the fairest scenario I could come up with gives us this bracket. (It becomes an easier pill to swallow if Adrian beats St. Norbert in the NCHA final and Oswego beats Geneseo)

                          First Round:

                          Augsburg at St. Norbert
                          Plymouth State at Norwich
                          Utica at Hobart
                          Salve Regina at Trinity

                          Quarterfinals:

                          SNC/Augsburg at Stevens Point
                          Adrian at Oswego
                          Norwich/Plymouth vs. Hobart/Utica
                          Salve Regina/Trinity at Geneseo
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                          • Originally posted by PrezdeJohnson09 View Post
                            One week to go and we see a couple more changes based off this past week's results.

                            SUNYAC - Geneseo (2)
                            CCC - Salve Regina (11)
                            MASCAC - Plymouth State (31)
                            MIAC - Augsburg (10)
                            NCHA - St. Norbert (5)
                            NEHC - Norwich (3)
                            NESCAC - Trinity (9)
                            UCHC - Utica (12)

                            Pool C - Stevens Point (1)
                            Pool C - Oswego (4)
                            Pool C - Hobart (6)
                            Pool C - Adrian (7)

                            Now we're back to lots of different scenarios for how to deal with Adrian. Adrian can play St. Norbert, Oswego, Hobart and Geneseo all without flying.

                            I think the fairest scenario I could come up with gives us this bracket. (It becomes an easier pill to swallow if Adrian beats St. Norbert in the NCHA final and Oswego beats Geneseo)

                            First Round:

                            Augsburg at St. Norbert
                            Plymouth State at Norwich
                            Utica at Hobart
                            Salve Regina at Trinity

                            Quarterfinals:

                            SNC/Augsburg at Stevens Point
                            Adrian at Oswego
                            Norwich/Plymouth vs. Hobart/Utica
                            Salve Regina/Trinity at Geneseo
                            Just thought, but without the win....Adrian will drop back down below UMB. Their win% would drop to .707 and RPI would take a hit. UMB should pretty much remain steady.


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                              Originally posted by Birdwatcher View Post
                              Just thought, but without the win....Adrian will drop back down below UMB. Their win% would drop to .707 and RPI would take a hit. UMB should pretty much remain steady.
                              Correct, I think Adrian has to win to get in. A loss and I could see UMass Boston jumping back up into the last Pool C slot. If that's the case and the split is 9-3, it's a very easy bracket with the top 4 seeds all earning byes and we play down to 3 east teams, 1 west team.
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                                Originally posted by PrezdeJohnson09 View Post
                                Correct, I think Adrian has to win to get in. A loss and I could see UMass Boston jumping back up into the last Pool C slot. If that's the case and the split in 9-3, it's a very easy bracket with the top 4 seeds all earning byes and we play down to 3 east teams, 1 west team.
                                That is how I see it as well...
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