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  • Re: POTUS 45:48: There's Always Barber College

    Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
    It's not just about pollution. Add all the factors together and we're leading the pack.
    I think the only way you could pin it on us is consumption. Then you'd have an argument.

    But countries and peoples don't really matter, here. The answer to why Americans consume so much is "because we can." If the Romanians or the Tanzanians were as rich as we are they'd be consuming at our rates, too.

    Humans are apes who have learned how to make, sell, and buy sh-t. It's what we do. Aristotle was wrong. Man is not the thinking animal, he is the devouring animal.
    Last edited by Kepler; 02-11-2019, 09:01 AM.
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    • Re: POTUS 45:48: There's Always Barber College

      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
      I think the only way you could pin it on us is consumption. Then you'd have an argument.
      That factor is on the list. No question about it.
      **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

      Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
      Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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      • Re: POTUS 45:48: There's Always Barber College

        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
        I think the only way you could pin it on us is consumption. Then you'd have an argument.

        But countries and peoples don't really matter, here. The answer to why Americans consume so much is "because we can." If the Romanians or the Tanzanians were as rich as we are they'd be consuming at our rates, too.

        Humans are apes who have learned how to make, sell, and buy sh-t. It's what we do. Aristotle was wrong. Man is not the thinking animal, he is the devouring animal.
        Sure. And he is the animal that will devour the planet on it's own instead of being wiped out by a natural catastrophe.
        **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

        Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
        Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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        • Re: POTUS 45:48: There's Always Barber College

          Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
          Sure. And he is the animal that will devour the planet on it's own instead of being wiped out by a natural catastrophe.
          It's a race: environmental destruction vs FTL. To me it looks dead even, but I am an optimist.What we need is to reset the clock on environmental devastation but not on science. For that we need something that significantly culls the dummies but does no harm to the smarties.

          Essentially, we need to take over and start farming them for food.
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          • Re: POTUS 45:48: There's Always Barber College

            This has got to be one of the most insane things I’ve read in awhile: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/10/the-...n-america.html

            How are people who are skint supposed to all of a sudden start saving $650 a month for retirement?
            Originally posted by BobbyBrady
            Crosby probably wouldn't even be on BC's top two lines next year

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            • Re: POTUS 45:48: There's Always Barber College

              Originally posted by Drew S. View Post
              This has got to be one of the most insane things I’ve read in awhile: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/10/the-...n-america.html

              How are people who are skint supposed to all of a sudden start saving $650 a month for retirement?
              I got a simple answer to that. Take the 23 trillion back.
              **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

              Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
              Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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              • Re: POTUS 45:48: There's Always Barber College

                Originally posted by Drew S. View Post
                skint
                Huh. New word for the day. Thank you.
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                • Re: POTUS 45:48: There's Always Barber College

                  Scooby buy a bunker already and hunker down. Just remember to set the lights so there are no shadows.

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                  • Re: POTUS 45:48: There's Always Barber College

                    Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                    I got a simple answer to that. Take the 23 trillion back.
                    For if you hide the crown
                    Even in your hearts, there will he rake for it
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                    • Re: POTUS 45:48: There's Always Barber College

                      Originally posted by alfablue View Post
                      Yes, there are strawberries grown in the desert, but, again, much of that is grown in the central valley, and northern watered.
                      most strawberries are grown along the coast in Monterey and Ventura County, but you are right that area is not irrigated by Colorado river water. Strawberries were a bad example. But it is a fact that if you eat lettuce in the winter, you're likely eating something that was grown in the desert with Colorado River water. Southern California is allocated 4.40 million acre feed of Colorado river water, the largest share of any state and it is used mostly for irrigation. The allocations were based on an unrealistic flow rate too, and now the Colorado River runs dry before it reaches the ocean. It's a $4B industry growing things like lettuce, alfalfa, and cotton somewhere where farming on that scale makes little sense.

                      Originally posted by alfablue View Post
                      Finally, here in Michigan, we get strawberries from Florida. Why are you getting them from California?
                      It's unlikely you get them from Florida year round. It's seasonal. Florida produces most of their strawberries in winter. California produces them nearly year round and has 4x the acreage. 90% of U.S. strawberries are grown in California.
                      depending on time of year, its not uncommon to see them from California (most common), Florida, or Mexico

                      Originally posted by alfablue View Post
                      That seems pretty stupid.
                      you might be stupid if you think all the strawberries consumed in Michigan come from Florida

                      and frankly, if you are not concerned about the global population and it's affect on our planet, you are definitely stupid or in denial
                      Last edited by BassAle; 02-11-2019, 09:34 AM.

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                      • Re: POTUS 45:48: There's Always Barber College

                        Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
                        Scooby buy a bunker already and hunker down. Just remember to set the lights so there are no shadows.
                        I do not have the finances or the resources to do what I'd like to do. So, no. I will go to my grave knowing that I left the planet in worse shape for my kids and that there was nothing I could really do about it.
                        **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

                        Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                        Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                        • Re: POTUS 45:48: There's Always Barber College

                          Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                          I do not have the finances or the resources to do what I'd like to do. So, no. I will go to my grave knowing that I left the planet in worse shape for my kids and that there was nothing I could really do about it.
                          So you've got that going for you. Which is nice.
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                          • Re: POTUS 45:48: There's Always Barber College

                            Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                            So you've got that going for you. Which is nice.
                            They know it too. They also know that my generation was handcuffed by the boomers. It's the only solace I have.
                            **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

                            Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                            Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                            • Re: POTUS 45:48: There's Always Barber College

                              Originally posted by Drew S. View Post
                              What does that have to do with immigration?

                              And the counter to that is to watch Biggest Little Farm. Where a whole ecosystem is restarted based on farming techniques- water, insects, animals, etc.

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                              • Re: POTUS 45:48: There's Always Barber College

                                Originally posted by alfablue View Post
                                What does that have to do with immigration?
                                I think his point is we are ****ing up the environment with our agricultural practices
                                Unless we change our ways of producing food, insects as a whole will go down the path of extinction in a few decades,
                                with a lower global population, we could sustain ourselves with lower yield more environmentally sustainable farming practices

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