POTUS 45:46: New Year, Same 'Ol Crap.

[French Rage]

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Dr. Mrs. is one of the furloughed workers.

Then get her shoveling some sidewalks! Gotta make that side-hustle pay!

[Slap Shot]

Re: POTUS 45:46: New Year, Same 'Ol Crap.

Hurry? What hurry? For context ... June 17, 1972 to Aug. 8, 1974 -- 27 months

If we use July 2016

We should use May, 2017. Thanks

Make you a deal, I'll keep reading everything that's out there and keep asking for the impeachable evidence to be brought so if we have a Russian plant we remove it; but, you read Turley's piece about confirmation bias with an open mind.

Hmm:

The result is two separate narratives that fed off the actions of each other. There likely was bias in the initial assumptions, with a willingness at the FBI to believe Trump would be a tool of the Russians, and a willingness by Trump to believe the FBI would be a tool of the Clintons. Every move and countermove confirmed each bias. Trump continued to denounce what he saw as a conspiracy. The FBI continued to investigate his obstructive attitude. One side saw a witch hunt where the other saw a mole hunt.

Of course, neither side can accept at this point that they may have been wrong about the other side. In economics that is called path dependence. So much has been built on the Republican and Democratic sides on these original assumptions that it is impossible to now deconstruct from those narratives.

This is an opinion piece that assumes an awful lot. Likely bias? Based upon what? Isn't it likely any initial bias worked in Trump's favor and not the other away around? We know how Trump viewed the ensuing mess - you (and Turly) can only speculate about attitudes and supposed ulterior motives with the FBI. Additionally to claim so much, "has been built" on the, "Democratic side" ignores this is not an investigation initiated by Democrats, dozens of actual indictments (and pleas) have already been handed out and quite frankly there's a hell of a lot more going on here than petty political games. It's actually rather shameful of you do cite such a nonsensical opinion piece as if it should blow everyone's mind.

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Re: POTUS 45:46: New Year, Same 'Ol Crap.

With the TSA formerly suggesting that its employees get various odd jobs, including secret shopper. Coincidentally, my wife signed up for being a secret shopper a few months ago (she thought it would be fun) and just now got her first gig. We had to eat at Baker's Square, and they covered $35 of the tab. Other options she had would have taken some 20 minutes and netter her $3.

Baker's Square is still around?

[Handyman]

Re: POTUS 45:46: New Year, Same 'Ol Crap.

There are a few...

[St. Clown]

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Baker's Square is still around?

Surprising enough, the food was good for the market they're working, both pie and entrée.

[Kepler]

Re: POTUS 45:46: New Year, Same 'Ol Crap.

Then get her shoveling some sidewalks! Gotta make that side-hustle pay!

I mentioned this but she brought up her MS as some BS excuse...

[ScoobyDoo]

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I mentioned this but she brought up her MS as some BS excuse...

I'd bring up mine if anyone said that to me.

[SJHovey]

Re: POTUS 45:46: New Year, Same 'Ol Crap.

We should use May, 2017. Thanks



Hmm:



This is an opinion piece that assumes an awful lot. Likely bias? Based upon what? Isn't it likely any initial bias worked in Trump's favor and not the other away around? We know how Trump viewed the ensuing mess - you (and Turly) can only speculate about attitudes and supposed ulterior motives with the FBI. Additionally to claim so much, "has been built" on the, "Democratic side" ignores this is not an investigation initiated by Democrats, dozens of actual indictments (and pleas) have already been handed out and quite frankly there's a hell of a lot more going on here than petty political games. It's actually rather shameful of you do cite such a nonsensical opinion piece as if it should blow everyone's mind.

I don't know much about this Turley, but I don't think he's quite a Fox News stooge or anything. It's not like The Hill is InfoWars. It's just one man's opinion piece, and it's not completely crazy.

What we know is this. First, there is no question there is a frenzy in this country over Trump, and it's existed since at least election day. Whether that frenzy is warranted or to what degree is certainly open to debate, because the guy is undoubtedly twisted and crazy.

We know that a substantial number of people associated with him have been convicted of or plead guilty to felonies. In pretty much every case, if I'm not mistaken, the convictions/pleas have been for lying. They were asked about meetings with or communications with or dealings with Russia or people from Russia, and they lied when they gave their answer. These lies have been exposed, and as a result they were convicted of or plead guilty to felonies.

In the case of Cohen, the felonies were campaign finance law violations associated with paying off escorts to keep them silent and preserve Trump's family man reputation?!?

That's really all we know. Convicting someone over lying about a meeting or communications with a Russian doesn't mean that you now have proof that Trump and the Russians colluded to rig the election or Trump is working for the Russians, or Trump is laundering money for the Russians. I know people want to make that leap. I know that people here have already made that leap. It may even turn out to be a correct guess. But, right now it's a guess.

We can sit here and talk about Trump being a puppet of Putin, of Trump being a Manchurian Candidate, of Trump and Putin conspiring to rig the US elections, etc..., but we actually don't know that and all of the blathering and name-calling directed at Sic doesn't get you any closer to it. Furthermore, even the little "it's not been publicly revealed" doesn't get you any closer to it. Until it's publicly revealed, it's nothing. That's why when Sic came in and trolled the chorus by demanding they list the proof, instead of someone simply providing that proof all we got was six pages of name-calling, "you won't accept it when we tell you" responses, blah, blah, blah.

Now, will something come to light? A small part of me hopes so just so I can say I didn't have to sit through all of this to have Mueller tell me that we just don't know. On the other hand, it would be nice to know that our elections haven't been rigged by an outsider. I prefer to keep all the rigging in house, where it's been these past 240+ years.

[leswp1]

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I wonder what the left will say about him if they don’t get the result they want...

Iam pretty sure both sides thought he was a good choice and has a good reputation. He has already gotten results. A lot of them. If you are playing Bingo along with Trevor Noah someone wins real soon!

One of my Facebook friends has said the majority of the people being locked out are contractors, not on salary. So I guess they don't have to be paid? Seriously, the blindness and stupidity of some people.

Newt Gingrich said this morning all the Federal workers would get back pay so he didn't think it was a big deal. There I was talking back at the radio. He seriously can't be that stupid so he is willfully malicious. They might get back pay but no one is going to pay the credit card interest or any of the other fees that you rack up when you are late for payment.

No the contractors don't get paid but no problem for tRump there. He never pays. There are lists of those he left in the lurch for years.

[alfablue]

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So, bring it already.

I'm waiting for the evidence and the ensuing action by the House (impeachment process).

So no worries about the Emoluments Clause? Dump Inc is taking money in, in a very obvious way, from foreign sources, many of government level. This is a pretty obvious violation of the Constitution. Why does that not bother you?

Then there's the whole line of work that Cohen as pointed out that dealings for a building in Moscow has been going on much longer than anyone has talked about, and that it's been actively been covered up.

dump is the head of dump inc, he never took himself off the board. This is a well known fact. So all of this dump inc stuff is pretty bad.

And you are STILL focused on Muller and conspiracy- that's NOT what he's investigating- but there is a lot of signs that he's finding it. To dig through all of what he's supposed to get into is going to take a long time.

[rufus]

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It's actually rather shameful of you do cite such a nonsensical opinion piece as if it should blow everyone's mind.

As I said, disingenuous putz.

[aparch]

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I have no words...


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POTUS with “great American food” for Clemson Tigers visiting WH. pic.twitter.com/VgmQeXNhk6

— Roberta Rampton (@robertarampton) January 14, 2019

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Re: POTUS 45:46: New Year, Same 'Ol Crap.

Yeah he bragged about McDonald’s and Burger King today.

Let’s feed athletes poison. We’re the best!

[Spartanforlife4]

I have no words...


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POTUS with “great American food” for Clemson Tigers visiting WH. pic.twitter.com/VgmQeXNhk6

— Roberta Rampton (@robertarampton) January 14, 2019

Those guys eat better at training table after practice...

[MinnesotaNorthStar]

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White House economic adviser Kevin Hassett says furloughed federal workers who aren't getting paid during the partial government shutdown are "better off" because they didn't have to use vacation days https://t.co/8pFaeYgGlj pic.twitter.com/IE5ye2NtJn

— CNN (@CNN) January 14, 2019

And before you think it is clickbait and he didnt actually say that:



This clown never had a real job and never had to struggle you can tell.

And I am sick of hearing about "back pay" yeah you get made whole later and that is nice...but right now if you have no money coming in it becomes a real struggle. The more people write off the shutdown because of that the more out of touch they truly are.

I would challenge anyone who says it's not a big deal because they get back pay to take their last paycheck and open up a new savings account. Continue putting your paycheck in that account until the shutdown is over and federal workers get their back pay. You cannot use it for rent/mortgage, bills, gas, food, etc...anything at all.