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  • #961
    Re: POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!

    The Wall is a better use of funding than this:

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...CUkDMGaYgwf-CQ

    The Violence Against Women Act (VAWA) officially expired at midnight last Friday due to the partial government shutdown that is now in its sixth day.

    “Don’t let this go unnoticed: the Violence Against Women Act, which helps survivors of domestic abuse and sexual assault, expired with the government shutdown,” Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) tweeted on Sunday, adding, “It’s deeply concerning.”
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    Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
    Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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    • #962
      Re: POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!

      Originally posted by WeAreNDHockey View Post
      What the Mueller thing has is staying power. It is going to continue with no end in sight for a long, long time. And when it is over open minded thinking voters are going to be plenty disappointed. What's worse is they may be disillusioned as well, and decide it serves no purpose to participate in our democracy.

      No matter what the final outcome of Mueller's investigation ends up being, republicans in the congress will take absolutely no action. trump won't be indicted. And if he is defeated at the polls in November of 2020 the best we can hope for is he slinks away like a bully who gets his noise bloodied.

      Frankly, I fear his defeat -- IF republicans are no more successful at suppressing votes than they were in 2016 or 2018 -- will lead to the biggest crisis this country has faced since the Civil War. The existential threat our democracy faces in trump wasn't likely to be some sort of a shooting war, or, God forbid, WWIII (and the end of civilization on Earth), it is the citizenry consuming ourselves in constitutional chaos when 40% of Americans refuse to accept the results of a presidential election. republicans won't walk away as peacefully as democrats did when Gore had the 2000 election stolen from him.
      Do you remember when Obama was preparing to extend his time in office using a military coup, and Jade Helm was the first step in that process? Yeah, that's right, you're the Left's Flaggy.
      "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984

      "One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir

      "Good news! We have a delivery." Professor Farnsworth

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      • #963
        Re: POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!

        Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
        The Wall is a better use of funding than this:

        https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...CUkDMGaYgwf-CQ
        Funding for the shelters to protect the abused expired with the shutdown. The law itself wasn't retracted. Let's not obfuscate the truth for political gain, Flaggy.
        "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984

        "One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir

        "Good news! We have a delivery." Professor Farnsworth

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        • #964
          Re: POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!

          Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
          Funding for the shelters to protect the abused expired with the shutdown. The law itself wasn't retracted. Let's not obfuscate the truth for political gain, Flaggy.
          Oh, I'm Flaggy now. Ok, whatever you say bud.
          **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

          Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
          Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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          • #965
            Re: POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!

            Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
            Do you remember when Obama was preparing to extend his time in office using a military coup, and Jade Helm was the first step in that process? Yeah, that's right, you're the Left's Flaggy.
            To be fair... everything that the GOP has yelled and screamed about the Democrats doing for the last decade, is actually what the GOP *IS* doing.
            “Demolish the bridges behind you… then there is no choice but to build again.”

            Live Radio from 100.3

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            • #966
              Re: POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!

              Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
              Oh, I'm Flaggy now. Ok, whatever you say bud.
              You're either blindly posting what a far-left leaning news service is reporting, or you're intentionally trying to mislead people. Flip the side of the argument, and that's exactly what Flaggy does. Add in a touch of conspiracy from WeAreNDHockey, and the two of you combine into the perfect Bizarro Flaggy.
              "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984

              "One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir

              "Good news! We have a delivery." Professor Farnsworth

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              • #967
                Re: POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!

                Originally posted by aparch View Post
                To be fair... everything that the GOP has yelled and screamed about the Democrats doing for the last decade, is actually what the GOP *IS* doing.
                There's a difference here, though. Now you're asking for an outright revolution against the government. The military has too many leaders who may like the man, but they're not willing to allow him to overthrow the Constitution all on his own.
                "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984

                "One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir

                "Good news! We have a delivery." Professor Farnsworth

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                • #968
                  Re: POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!

                  Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                  You're either blindly posting what a far-left leaning news service is reporting, or you're intentionally trying to mislead people. Flip the side of the argument, and that's exactly what Flaggy does. Add in a touch of conspiracy from WeAreNDHockey, and the two of you combine into the perfect Bizarro Flaggy.
                  I'm intentionally trying to mislead who?

                  What a crock of ****. **** you.
                  **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

                  Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                  Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                  • #969
                    Re: POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!

                    Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                    I'm intentionally trying to mislead who?

                    What a crock of ****. **** you.
                    If you're not intentionally misleading, you're blindly posting. If you're not blindly posting, then your reading comprehension sucks.
                    "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984

                    "One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir

                    "Good news! We have a delivery." Professor Farnsworth

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                    • #970
                      Re: POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!

                      Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                      Do you remember when Obama was preparing to extend his time in office using a military coup, and Jade Helm was the first step in that process? Yeah, that's right, you're the Left's Flaggy.
                      That's the consequence of making threats as the basis for all of your arguments. It is necessary to continue to escalate, and geometric progression necessarily causes it to quickly dissolve into absurdity.

                      This person will raise your taxes.
                      This person will cause criminals to come into your home and murder your family.
                      This person will take away your constitutional rights.
                      This person will ignore the constitution altogether.
                      This person will cause a civil war.
                      This person will cause armageddon.


                      The only winning move is not to play.
                      That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.

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                      • #971
                        Re: POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!

                        Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                        There's a difference here, though. Now you're asking for an outright revolution against the government. The military has too many leaders who may like the man, but they're not willing to allow him to overthrow the Constitution all on his own.
                        I agree that there should be many stops along the way that would prevent a banana republic from forming November 2020. But I think we also thought that the GOP leaders had enough balls to tell Trump to pound sand and we see where that got us.

                        Do I think that the military will help the coup? No. But there might be a couple broken arrows that attempt it.
                        “Demolish the bridges behind you… then there is no choice but to build again.”

                        Live Radio from 100.3

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                        • #972
                          Re: POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!

                          Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                          Funding for the shelters to protect the abused expired with the shutdown. The law itself wasn't retracted. Let's not obfuscate the truth for political gain, Flaggy.
                          Based on everything I can find to read the law itself has lapsed, and needs to be re-authorized by congress in order to continue going forward. It's probably 100% certain that a new budget deal will re-authorize the act, but that doesn't make anything Soccby said wrong. Stop talking about things you don't understand Sic

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                          • #973
                            Re: POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!

                            Originally posted by jerphisch View Post
                            Based on everything I can find to read the law itself has lapsed, and needs to be re-authorized by congress in order to continue going forward. It's probably 100% certain that a new budget deal will re-authorize the act, but that doesn't make anything Soccby said wrong. Stop talking about things you don't understand Sic
                            Well, if I missed that, then touché.
                            "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984

                            "One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir

                            "Good news! We have a delivery." Professor Farnsworth

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                            • #974
                              Re: POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!

                              Originally posted by jerphisch View Post
                              Based on everything I can find to read the law itself has lapsed, and needs to be re-authorized by congress in order to continue going forward. It's probably 100% certain that a new budget deal will re-authorize the act, but that doesn't make anything Soccby said wrong. Stop talking about things you don't understand Sic
                              Oh, no. I clearly mislead everyone. I don't know how to read.
                              **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

                              Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                              Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                              • #975
                                Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
                                That's the consequence of making threats as the basis for all of your arguments. It is necessary to continue to escalate, and geometric progression necessarily causes it to quickly dissolve into absurdity.

                                This person will raise your taxes.
                                This person will cause criminals to come into your home and murder your family.
                                This person will take away your constitutional rights.
                                This person will ignore the constitution altogether.
                                This person will cause a civil war.
                                This person will cause armageddon.


                                The only winning move is not to play.
                                So far, that's been part of every campaign and post mortem since (Carter? Reagan?).
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