POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

[French Rage]

Re: POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

Fixed that for you...
And before you ask... No I do not believe you

So he's Ben Carson?

[jerphisch]

Re: POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

Those are Trumps words, or is that what Trump said, quoting what his doctor said? Because otherwise you are saying that Trump talked about himself in the 3rd person? I mean, that is possible, I believe he's done that before. But I suspect he was just quoting what his doctor told him.

And "healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency" is not the same as "fittest person on the planet". You do realize this, right?

And Obama was pretty young, so I would question that doctor's bias as well. But for his age, Trump seems to do pretty good. Alot of people his age can't even walk anymore, and alot of people don't make it to that age.
I don't buy that. True, Trump sort of pushed the Republicans in the Libertarian direction, but they were already moving in that direction before he came along, in response to losing so much on the culture war battles. The more the Left moved left and towards Socialism and bigger Govt and more Govt control, the more the Republicans(or I should say, some of them) moved towards the Libertarian way. But most Libertarians don't trust Republicans either, at least not in general. They are just the lesser of two evils. They are fine with Trump and Republican candidates that claim to support the Trump agenda because they are Nationalists, whereas the Republicans that don't support Trump are for the most part Globalists.


Politics in America these days are easy to understand. You have Globalists/Democrats and the older Republicans and you have Nationalists/Libertarians and the newer Trump supporting Republicans.

Centrists are just people who don't understand politics, imo, some because they just don't care, others because they are not well enough informed.

You should probably look in to who wrote the statement Trump's Doctor released, I'll give you a hint. It wasn't Trump's Doctor.

You're forgetting your ((()))s.

[First Time, Long Time]

Of course you don't. lol How could you? You have FDS.

Stop trying to make your own syndrome happen... It's not going to happen...

[French Rage]

Re: POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

Not in on the joke French Rage? What did Ben Carson claim that was not believed or that was not true?

Relevant to West Point, he claimed to have been offered admission and a "full scholarship" while in middle school. This is not new news.

[aparch]

Re: POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

Thanks. Nope, didn't know you from the D1 side at all.

Like... Scandinavian flat tax rate? If so, you might be closer to the Dems (who haven't pushed for that other than potentially Bernie Sanders who isn't a Dem) than you want to admit.

As for how he's hurting the Lib movement: isn't one of the hallmarks of the Libertarian beliefs in a free and peaceful open trade? Not trade hamstrung by tariffs and impulse Tweets? The isolationism and push for a border wall seems to be against the Libertarian beliefs as well. You seem blinded by Trump's cries of nationalism as him championing for Libertarian rights. But he's not. He's being racist, whining about trade wars, grifting. All things opposite of Libertarian beliefs.

I was once told by a Libertarian that the US shouldn't need a $15 minimum wage law because under Libertarian beliefs, a great nation like ours would be paying livable wages (more than the existing minimum wage) already.

But what do I know, I'm just a dumb democrat.

...And why wouldn't I see being a Democrat as being a negative? Promoting of the RACIST identity politics and PC culture? Open borders? Higher Taxes? More Government control? More regulations? Getting rid of ICE? Wanting to take away people's guns? ...

I'm taking a swing at this. Who's promoting racist identity politics? Who's claiming that brown people in a caravan from a southern country are disease ridden rapists? Who wants to build a border wall to keep the darker than olive color skinned people out? Hint: It's not Democrats that have their own fear based "news" network. All they have is Rachel Maddow who (IMO) is the Geraldo Rivera of digging up Republican dirt.

Dems don't want open borders. We just want to FIX and ENHANCE the laws and rules we currently have. Abolish ICE? It's one department of 22 under the umbrella of Department of Homeland Security. I'm pretty sure it could vanish tomorrow and the other 21 departments would have no problem handling the duties that were given to ICE when it was formed in 2003. Two departments that could easily absorb ICE (which was spun off from the DHS absorbtion of INS) right now are the US Customs and Border Protection (which was combined from parts of the USDA and INS) and US Citizenship and Immigration (which was the other half of ICE that originally formed the INS). Which, you should be for, smaller government and all that.

We already had laws on the books for immigrating. Come to the wall. Knock on the door. State your case. Get documented as a visitor to the nation. Get assigned a court date. You're on your own to find a place to stay until your court date. If you don't appear, you become wanted. Republicans turned it into: Come to the wall. Knock on the door. Get arrested. Get a free tent to stay in the hot desert. Get a free plane ticket back home. Again: sounds like you want the Democrats "hands off Government" rule versus the Republican's socialist free meals and lodging to illegals.

Wanting to take people's guns away? This sh** again? Umm no. The only reason the Democrats will (eventually) spearhead bills to limit gun sales in the US is because of the Republican's "Profits over People" mentality. Putting it in such a way for libertarians to understand: I don't want my liberty to be a living, breathing, able bodied American to be infringed by the liberties of a gun wielding, PTSD suffering, psycho with an itchy trigger finger. Because I thought Libertarians believe in personal freedoms, but also law-and-order. Again, another point where you should be *against* the Republicans and siding more with the Dems.

[First Time, Long Time]

Already has. And you are the one with the worst case of it. But there is hope. Just let go of your hate. Find Jesus or something, lol. Or be the better person and sacrafice, do it for the forum maybe? Hell, do it to spite me maybe? Think of how much fun you will deprive me of? I'll hate it, being the attention seeking child, right? I so crave your attention, just rob me of it, rip it from my hands, take it from me, deprive me of your attention that I so desperately seek.

Whoosh...

[Stauber1]

Re: POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

Hey guys, are we socialist and communist sheep? I can't tell.

What's the difference? Both are evil. One is just a stepping stone to the other.

My job is a seasonal one...So with overtime and bonuses and unemployment, I only work about 1300 hours a year...

What a tool.

[Stauber1]

Re: POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

You do realize Stauber1, that my company pays for my unemployment, right? Or are you clueless and don't understand this?

How do you think Agriculture based companies are able to keep experienced seasonal workers coming back each season???


And you call me a tool?

Yeah, probably doesn't have anything to do with the fact that they are legally required to.
If only we had a government of libertarians we could get rid of those kinds of evil socialist laws and regulations. And that $20b in handouts to agro business.

Nice of them to pay you to sit around posting on internet forums all day, though.

[Slap Shot]

Re: POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

And like my oath when I joined the Army...

There you go again.

And for the record someone doesn't need to be a ___ to be dissatisfied with Trump - they need to be human and free thinking. Serious welcome to ignore and gfy.

[Stauber1]

Re: POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

Typical.
"Socialism is evil...unless it directly benefits me, then it is absolutely deserved and we are all collectively better off because of it...but it's not socialism...really. And I'm totally a libertarian."

And paid vacation is typically called PTO.
It's not called unemployment. It's not paid at the legally required rate of 1/2 your weekly earnings during the base period. And it's not funded by legally mandated taxes.


As a point of clarity, I have zero problem with unemployment insurance as a legislated safety net. But I'm not the one claiming to be a libertarian and saying that socialism is evil.

[aparch]

Re: POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

LOL!

He never said that. He's staying that the *employer* is forced to pay a tax that is used to pay out unemployment. Me thinks you protest too much.

Right now it appears you're having no problem digging through that frozen soil: you have a nice hole started.

[alfablue]

Re: POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

I'm not a Republican, so your attempts to ridicule or criticize Republicans of the past as a way of indicating anything about me, well, is missing the mark. I am a Libertarian and have been for quite some time now.

And I'm not ok with Russians or the Chinese or CLINTON, or Democrats or Republicans trying to interfere with our elections. I think anyone, of any party, that is found to have done something illegal, should be prosecuted for those illegal activities, or at least exposed to the public if what they did wasn't illegal but is something most of us would frown upon. And if it was a foreign country that did it, we should take steps to prevent it happening in the future. But we can't hardly punish foreign countries for doing something we do to them.



As for their supposedly not finding anything on Clinton? You think the investigation was run by Republicans??? Wow, that seems like of naive.


So seeing as you pegged me as a Republican and I'm not, I guess everything else you said in criticism of me doesn't need to even be addressed as it is meaningless.


Now as a Libertarian, do you think I am not concerned about taxes, how much they are, and how they are spent? You do know what Libertarians think about taxes, right?

So the hours and hours and hours spent in front of a House Committee that was run by Republicans was actually run by Democrats? Amazing. If you think that, you are not smart what so ever.

Lying to Congress is a crime, BTW, so if she did that, she should go to jail. But oddly enough, no Republican could stick that to her what so ever. So once again, either she did nothing legally wrong, or the R lawyers are the worst all time.

Now that you call yourself a Libertarian, given what you have been posting, I think far less of you. Good job on that. It also explains why you are so interested in having the investigation end, since you are not for laws at all. Which is curious, since you want to build the wall- a real Libertarian would be ok with immigrants, since you would want as little government involvement at all, and letting people run with their will is better than imposing restrictions.

And I bet on the wall think, you are ok with not having a wall to the north.

Basically, all you are capable of is regurgitating what Fox news is telling you. And since you always think you are right, regardless of the obvious problems in your arguments, there's no point in debating you.

You are wrong, regardless of if you are right or not- the best think you seem to think you can do is call people names and accuse them of being bad. Which is pointless.

Good luck with being angry, I see no point in continuing any discussions. Which is pretty common these days.

[burd]

Re: POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

With all due respect, all any of us do here is indulge in entertainment, whether it's thoughtful posting, people going after morons, or you commenting on people going after morons. Any given thread might have a dozen regular posters, and nobody is changing anyone's mind. What we say here effects no change. It's all entertainment. That's partly why Kepler got out.

That said, there are certainly different ways to be entertained, and I have to say that I enjoy reading what you have to say, Handy, usually for the thought you put into it. Like many here.

I have to repost this to admit that it was probably a mistake. It's true that this is all just entertainment, but Handy is right to scold us about engaging with posters like Dynasty. Guys like him/Fred, Dubber, Mariucci can do nothing but kill every thread they join because all they want is attention, and the easiest way to get it is by irritating as any people as possible. So even if it is all just entertainment, we have to ignore them to keep the threads from going straight to the trash heap.

[wolverineTrumpet]

Re: POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

And sure, you don't like the 20 billion in handouts to agro business? lol Fine. Go and grow your own food. I'm sure you already do, and live solely on your own garden for food and never go to the grocery story, right?
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Typical.
"Socialism is evil...unless it directly benefits me, then it is absolutely deserved and we are all collectively better off because of it...but it's not socialism...really. And I'm totally a libertarian."

This, exactly, is my problem with "Libertarians". 'Big government is evil. Taxes are theft. I don't have school aged kids so why am I paying for education?'
Society benefits from taxes. Infrastructure, schools, emergency response are all things I'm happy to have money taken from my wages to pay for. I'm not happy about tax money spent on an even larger military, or paying pension for members of congress. However, I won't complain about paying my taxes, because as a society, this is what we've decided/voted for and overall I believe the entire society benefits from it.

As for the agro business handout, shouldn't a libertarian believe in free markets? Sounds like they don't have a working business model and should either fail, or adjust the business model to become profitable. If that means higher food prices, isn't that how the market should work?

Finally, Alot is better than you at everything
You sure like to type 'alot' a lot. It annoys me almost as much as your views.

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Re: POTUS 45.44: "That's Not Law" said Trump

Annnnnnnnnd, he's gone.