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  • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    Has Detroit produced even one model to compete in (my) Camry/Accord niche, ever? They have entries, but near as I can tell they have all been sh-t.
    Malibu and the Fusion.

    I heart my (2014) Malibu.

    Before that, my (2002) Pontiac Grand Prix was the most bullet proof car I've ever had. It wasnt until it hit 198k that it went to sh**. Drove the sh** out of that car from 2005 when I bought it with just 28k miles on it until it died just before I bought the Malibu.


    *Edit* I think the stigma of those cars comes from the fact that the Detroit makes sh*tbox versions of those cars for rentals/fleets and the general public casts judgement on that. I've never seen AT&T or Comonwealth Edison, or any other bulk buyer of fleet vehicles, have a lot of Corollas, Accords, or whatever Nissan's model is.
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    • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
      Note to Detroit: make better cars, a-ssholes. Stop pushing all your R&D into bigger trucks for boobs.
      Mookie had a forester. Great car
      a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

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      • Re: Business, Economics, and Tax Policy 8: Bezos Takes Over the World

        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
        Oh, I don't mind them soaking the impotent dummies $80k for their overcompensations. In fact I encourage them to push the costs even higher so they can be more competitively priced on cars for smart people.

        Has Detroit produced even one model to compete in (my) Camry/Accord niche, ever? They have entries, but near as I can tell they have all been sh-t. Yes, nobody ever went broke underestimating the American public, but think how much money they could have raked in the last 30 years if they had even tried.
        The Ford Taurus was the top selling car in that segment for almost two decades, but then Ford had a new CEO come into power. He scrapped the Taurus brand as "old", and started the failed Ford 500 model. He was fired, the new guy came in, showed a Ford 500 in yellow, and remarked how it looked like Homer Simpson's head, and then proceeded to give a rebirth to the Taurus line. Unfortunately for Ford, the damage was done and sales never picked up what they lost.
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        • Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
          The Ford Taurus was the top selling car in that segment for almost two decades, but then Ford had a new CEO come into power. He scrapped the Taurus brand as "old", and started the failed Ford 500 model. He was fired, the new guy came in, showed a Ford 500 in yellow, and remarked how it looked like Homer Simpson's head, and then proceeded to give a rebirth to the Taurus line. Unfortunately for Ford, the damage was done and sales never picked up what they lost.
          That was during their mis-guided "Every car from Ford starts with F!" marketing scheme, wasnt it? (Five-hundred, Fusion, Freestyle, Futura...)

          I cant remember who it was from Ford that remarked "Would you like me to rename our hottest seller to 'Fustang?'"
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          • Re: Business, Economics, and Tax Policy 8: Bezos Takes Over the World

            Originally posted by aparch View Post
            That was during their mis-guided "Every car from Ford starts with F!" marketing scheme, wasnt it?

            I cant remember who it was from Ford that remarked "Would you like me to rename our hottest seller to 'Fustang?'"
            Yeah, I forgot about their F obsession for vehicle names. Idiot CEO.
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            • Re: Business, Economics, and Tax Policy 8: Bezos Takes Over the World

              Originally posted by Rover View Post
              For a guy who's always preaching about eating the rich, you have a funny way of practicing what you're preaching!
              I am happy to pay 10% more in taxes if millionaires are paying 20% more and billionaires are paying 50% more.
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                Originally posted by aparch View Post
                I think the stigma of those cars comes from the fact that the Detroit makes sh*tbox versions of those cars for rentals/fleets and the general public casts judgement on that. I've never seen AT&T or Comonwealth Edison, or any other bulk buyer of fleet vehicles, have a lot of Corollas, Accords, or whatever Nissan's model is.
                I thought the rental car companies only had American brands because the dummies would protest otherwise. Little by little I've seen better cars being added to rental fleets, lately, at least in the West where you don't want some sh-tbox dying on you 200 miles from the nearest town.
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                  Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                  So they should scrap the new 5 Ton Silverado that runs on Coal? Surely you jest.
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                  • Re: Business, Economics, and Tax Policy 8: Bezos Takes Over the World

                    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                    I thought the rental car companies only had American brands because the dummies would protest otherwise. Little by little I've seen better cars being added to rental fleets, lately, at least in the West where you don't want some sh-tbox dying on you 200 miles from the nearest town.
                    it seems like I rarely end up with an American rental car -- cheap Korean cars seem popular -- I usually just take what I get for the standard "mid size" car (or SUV depending on where I'm going) and I often end up with a Kia or Hyundai (and occasionally a Ford).

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                    • Re: Business, Economics, and Tax Policy 8: Bezos Takes Over the World

                      Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                      Presumably that man is now either dead or governor of a prairie state.
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                        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                        Presumably that man is now either dead or governor of a prairie state.
                        Maybe just prepping for his college yearbook photo.

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                        • Re: Business, Economics, and Tax Policy 8: Bezos Takes Over the World

                          Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
                          Maybe just prepping for his college yearbook photo.
                          Nicely done. :-)
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                          • Re: Business, Economics, and Tax Policy 8: Bezos Takes Over the World

                            Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                            Has Detroit produced even one model to compete in (my) Camry/Accord niche, ever? They have entries, but near as I can tell they have all been sh-t. Yes, nobody ever went broke underestimating the American public, but think how much money they could have raked in the last 30 years if they had even tried.
                            I believe Saturn filled that niche, but we all know how that turned-out. Loved my Saturn SL1. After ~10-years, "upgraded" to the VUE which was a disappointment, only due to the pending issues with the VTI. Still got ~10-years out of that before I traded it in (just-about the time the VTI was toast!). What did I trade for?... a Subaru Forester.

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                            • Re: Business, Economics, and Tax Policy 8: Bezos Takes Over the World

                              Originally posted by BassAle View Post
                              it seems like I rarely end up with an American rental car -- cheap Korean cars seem popular -- I usually just take what I get for the standard "mid size" car (or SUV depending on where I'm going) and I often end up with a Kia or Hyundai (and occasionally a Ford).
                              Weird. I always end up with American. I'm not a fan for the most part. There really isn't much elegance or beauty in them. See the links below. I looked at every luxury mid-sized SUV at the Twin Cities Autoshow. The only ones that seemed to have elegant styling and modern technology were the Japanese and Audi. I suppose the other European companies were nice as well, but I wouldn't want a BMW or Mercedes. Too costly to maintain.

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                              Originally posted by Kepler
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                              • Re: Business, Economics, and Tax Policy 8: Bezos Takes Over the World

                                I can’t speak for everyone of my age but I know my car habits have been influenced by the tuner culture (think The Fast and The Furious) from my teen years. The Japanese (and even the Europeans) companies can have basic, reliable models but also sportier models whereas to the Big Three “sportier” means “put a V8 in it!” I mean Ford had something going with the Focus for a bit and even GM had the Saturn Ion Redline but they never really stuck with it.

                                Basically, the Big Three want you to buy a Mustang or a Corvette and will sell you a Focus until you do, the Japanese want you to buy a Civic and if you want something faster they’ll see how big a turbo they can fit.
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