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    Nights like this remind us why they used to play the post season in the daytime.

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    Re: MLB 2018.2: Postseason, Free Agency, and Awards

    This is for all the Joe West haters out there

    But hey, I'm just protecting the "bad ones" by defending the guy He's the Crew Chief of a postseason crew for **** good reason. Congrats to him for this effort! This is about as perfect as a human being calling pitches can be.

    And before this is called "fake news" here's an explanation on how this result is calculated.
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    • #3
      Re: MLB 2018.2: Postseason, Free Agency, and Awards

      Ok. He's still an *******.

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        Originally posted by RaceBoarder View Post
        This is for all the Joe West haters out there

        But hey, I'm just protecting the "bad ones" by defending the guy He's the Crew Chief of a postseason crew for **** good reason. Congrats to him for this effort! This is about as perfect as a human being calling pitches can be.

        And before this is called "fake news" here's an explanation on how this result is calculated.
        Well he cost the Astros two runs last night by deciding the players have a right to a ball in the stands, so he’s 0% on fan interference plays.
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        • #5
          Re: MLB 2018.2: Postseason, Free Agency, and Awards

          That was atrocious.
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          • #6
            Re: MLB 2018.2: Postseason, Free Agency, and Awards

            I can't say that I necessarily agree with Counsell's strategy last night. Sometimes I think he tries to be too clever for the game.
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            • #7
              Re: MLB 2018.2: Postseason, Free Agency, and Awards

              Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
              I can't say that I necessarily agree with Counsell's strategy last night. Sometimes I think he tries to be too clever for the game.
              I think Counsell and his staff know his resources better than anyone else, especially fans or media who didn't know the Brewers existed before the last 2 weeks of the season. This is not the first time he's started a guy for one batter, then taken him out. Like he said, if he had Randy Johnson, he'd use traditional measures.. but that's not who he has.

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              • #8
                Re: MLB 2018.2: Postseason, Free Agency, and Awards

                Originally posted by jen View Post
                I think Counsell and his staff know his resources better than anyone else, especially fans or media who didn't know the Brewers existed before the last 2 weeks of the season. This is not the first time he's started a guy for one batter, then taken him out. Like he said, if he had Randy Johnson, he'd use traditional measures.. but that's not who he has.
                I'm not suggesting he doesn't know his team. But Milwaukee won a very tough division this year, and they did it getting 152 starts out of seven guys. That's almost identical numbers to LA and Boston.

                In other words, yeah, they don't have Randy Johnson on the team, but they won in the traditional way. Throw the same starters out there, bring in guys like Hader and Jeffress and their other bullpen guys to shut down the other team and win the game in the end.

                I guess what I really meant to say is I'm not a fan of a manager trying to change the character of his team in the post-season. If you're a home run hitting team in the regular season, that's who you are. Trying to play as a "small ball" team starting in a five or seven game series doesn't typically work.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Spartanforlife4 View Post
                  Well he cost the Astros two runs last night by deciding the players have a right to a ball in the stands, so he’s 0% on fan interference plays.
                  I just saw the replay. Not sure how that's not home run. Fans have a right to the ball as soon as it clears the plane of the fence. It did.

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                  • #10
                    Re: MLB 2018.2: Postseason, Free Agency, and Awards

                    Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
                    I guess what I really meant to say is I'm not a fan of a manager trying to change the character of his team in the post-season. If you're a home run hitting team in the regular season, that's who you are. Trying to play as a "small ball" team starting in a five or seven game series doesn't typically work.
                    The theory is not any different than the way he managed the team all season. Every pitcher is considered an "out getter". Not starters, not relievers. Anyone, anytime. They're all out getters. The staff said it a billion times during the course of the season. It might get applied differently during the playoffs because the playoffs ARE different. The travel is different, the rest days are different, and the intensity and workload are different. All of those things have a huge impact on the pitching staff.

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                    • #11
                      Re: MLB 2018.2: Postseason, Free Agency, and Awards

                      I kind of like matching up Verlander with Price. Astros best pitcher is most likely going to win that game, while Price is most likely to lose given his lack of post season success. Instead of Verlander outdueling a competent pitcher and then having Price spit the bit the following game, take your medicine all at once and move on!
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                      • #12
                        Re: MLB 2018.2: Postseason, Free Agency, and Awards

                        Okay sure SJHovey.

                        Brewers top seven games started: 152
                        Innings pitched: 818.0
                        Record: 51-45 (56 no decisions)

                        Red Sox top seven games started: 148
                        Innings pitched: 882.1
                        Record: 67-37 (44 no decisions)

                        Dodgers top seven games started: 156
                        Innings pitched: 910.0
                        Record: 60-41 (55 no decisions)

                        Astros top seven games started: 160
                        Innings pitched: 974.1
                        Record: 74-35 (51 no decisions)

                        Yep. Brewers sure won the old fashioned way throwing their starters out there. Wait, what's that? Our starters pitched minimum 65 innings less than Boston (almost 100 innings less than LA) and have a .500 record?

                        This postseason *IS* how Counsell has managed all year.
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                        • #13
                          Re: MLB 2018.2: Postseason, Free Agency, and Awards

                          Originally posted by aparch View Post
                          Okay sure SJHovey.

                          Brewers top seven games started: 152
                          Innings pitched: 818.0
                          Record: 51-45 (56 no decisions)

                          Red Sox top seven games started: 148
                          Innings pitched: 882.1
                          Record: 67-37 (44 no decisions)

                          Dodgers top seven games started: 156
                          Innings pitched: 910.0
                          Record: 60-41 (55 no decisions)

                          Astros top seven games started: 160
                          Innings pitched: 974.1
                          Record: 74-35 (51 no decisions)

                          Yep. Brewers sure won the old fashioned way throwing their starters out there. Wait, what's that? Our starters pitched minimum 65 innings less than Boston (almost 100 innings less than LA) and have a .500 record?

                          This postseason *IS* how Counsell has managed all year.
                          If you were trying to make your point with your statistics, I don't think you really understand math, or baseball.

                          According to your numbers, Brewers starters lasted on average between 5 1/3 and 5 1/2 innings per start. The Astros starters lasted 6 innings per start. Boston and LA starters lasted between 5 2/3 and 6 innings per start. So, basically what you are saying is that because the LA, Boston and Houston starters lasted, on average, one or two whole outs per game more than the Brewer's starters that optimum strategy suggests pulling the starter after the lead-off hitter on the chance you might get some better match-ups?
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                          • #14
                            Re: MLB 2018.2: Postseason, Free Agency, and Awards

                            Originally posted by jen View Post
                            The theory is not any different than the way he managed the team all season. Every pitcher is considered an "out getter". Not starters, not relievers. Anyone, anytime. They're all out getters. The staff said it a billion times during the course of the season. It might get applied differently during the playoffs because the playoffs ARE different. The travel is different, the rest days are different, and the intensity and workload are different. All of those things have a huge impact on the pitching staff.
                            So, the theory is that Miley was picked to start the game, and pitch only to the lead-off hitter, to "get that one out?"
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by unofan View Post
                              I just saw the replay. Not sure how that's not home run. Fans have a right to the ball as soon as it clears the plane of the fence. It did.
                              West called it, because, from his viewpoint, it looked like fan interference. Shame on MLB/Astros/TBS for not having a camera angle that would give inconclusive evidence that Mookie's glove was over the fence.

                              If he called it an HR, then it would have stood under replay.
                              Last edited by joecct; 10-18-2018, 09:23 PM.
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