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    Re: Utica College Pioneers - 2018-19 Season: Young Guns

    I understand the points possibilities, I guess my question is, is Wilkes any good, can they beat Utica, and do you think that last game will determine the autobid ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sshablak View Post
    I understand the points possibilities, I guess my question is, is Wilkes any good, can they beat Utica, and do you think that last game will determine the autobid ?
    Wilkes has proven it’s not an ordinary first year program I would think with their successes so far. They’ve got a good record for a reason. Sure their OOC isn’t all that strong but they’ve still had good results against traditionally good teams in the UCHC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sshablak View Post
    I understand the points possibilities, I guess my question is, is Wilkes any good, can they beat Utica, and do you think that last game will determine the autobid ?
    Maybe I’m understanding your question incorrectly but whatever team wins the UCHC playoffs gets the bid not the regular season champion.

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    Re: Utica College Pioneers - 2018-19 Season: Young Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by PrezdeJohnson09 View Post
    Wilkes has proven it’s not an ordinary first year program I would think with their successes so far. They’ve got a good record for a reason. Sure their OOC isn’t all that strong but they’ve still had good results against traditionally good teams in the UCHC.
    Yeah, the UCHC in general has been dismal OOC (23-45-11).

    Having said that, I agree that Wilkes is not to be overlooked in-conference. In fact, I could envision any of the top-6 having a legitimate shot at the AQ, but with those two who earn a 1st-round bye having a distinct leg-up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smbenny View Post
    Maybe I’m understanding your question incorrectly but whatever team wins the UCHC playoffs gets the bid not the regular season champion.
    It has been that way for years in all of the d3 conferences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdwatcher View Post
    It has been that way for years in all of the d3 conferences.
    I know that but others apparently do not. 🤠

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    Quote Originally Posted by smbenny View Post
    I know that but others apparently do not. 🤠
    Which ones ?? I don't know of any.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdwatcher View Post
    Which ones ?? I don't know of any.
    Lol! It seemed like the guy I was replying to didn’t understand. 👍

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    Re: Utica College Pioneers - 2018-19 Season: Young Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Birdwatcher View Post
    Which ones ?? I don't know of any.
    Shabby is a D-1 guy. Colgate fan. Not too concerned with our tiny cottage industry, and why should he be? He just checks-in from time to time because he has a casual interest in UC hockey...

    And he NEVER trolls. Perhaps you two children should take note of that.
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    Re: Utica College Pioneers - 2018-19 Season: Young Guns

    My bad, not sure what I was thinking, I know the rules. Thanks fish and benny.
    It all starts with the goaltending.

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    Re: Utica College Pioneers - 2018-19 Season: Young Guns

    Shabby, not sure how this new league works. Elmira and UC play to a 1-1 OT tie, and then play another 5 min. 3 on 3 OT. UC "wins" it but the league lists it as a tie with each team getting 1 point. Does anyone know why they would play the 3 on 3 if it doesn't mean anything, or is the league site wrong? If it is a tie, UC remains 1 point back of Elmira and 2 points back of Wilkes, with a game in hand. Hope somebody knows how this works because the league web site doesn't have anything I can find about a 3 on 3 OT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bennycheck View Post
    Shabby, not sure how this new league works. Elmira and UC play to a 1-1 OT tie, and then play another 5 min. 3 on 3 OT. UC "wins" it but the league lists it as a tie with each team getting 1 point. Does anyone know why they would play the 3 on 3 if it doesn't mean anything, or is the league site wrong? If it is a tie, UC remains 1 point back of Elmira and 2 points back of Wilkes, with a game in hand. Hope somebody knows how this works because the league web site doesn't have anything I can find about a 3 on 3 OT.

    Looks like the new extra OT's are no more than exhibitions. What a waste of time. Seriously stupid.

    In any case, that was one of the more exciting games I've seen a long while. The 3-on-3 second OT was especially fun. I much prefer that to a shoot-out. Too bad it amounted to a wank-off for everyone involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bennycheck View Post
    Shabby, not sure how this new league works. Elmira and UC play to a 1-1 OT tie, and then play another 5 min. 3 on 3 OT. UC "wins" it but the league lists it as a tie with each team getting 1 point. Does anyone know why they would play the 3 on 3 if it doesn't mean anything, or is the league site wrong? If it is a tie, UC remains 1 point back of Elmira and 2 points back of Wilkes, with a game in hand. Hope somebody knows how this works because the league web site doesn't have anything I can find about a 3 on 3 OT.
    From the standings page of the league website:

    In UCHC Conference Men's Games ONLY:
    3 Points for a win in regulation or standard 5-on-5 OT
    0 Points for a loss in regulation or 5-on-5 OT
    If the score remains tied at that point, it is credited as a TIE on the conference and overall records of both teams per NCAA guidelines. From there, the teams advance to a 3-on-3 session and shootout if needed to determine who takes the majority of the three available UCHC standings points ONLY. The winner gets two points, the losing team in those sessions receives one point. Both teams are credited with a tie on their record.

    Stats in the 3-on-3 and shootout do NOT count towards season totals, except for misconduct and disqualification penalties which are tracked to be used for supplemental discpline as needed.

    Teams are shown with their records in the 3v3 and Shootout attached separately.
    The league has to list it as a tie because it is a tie for NCAA purposes. For league purposes, it is an almost-win for UC. They would have gotten 3pts for a true win, but only get two for this one, conceding 1pt to EC. According to the UCHC website, both teams are now tied at 29 points for the season.

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    Re: Utica College Pioneers - 2018-19 Season: Young Guns

    LMAO...So convoluted, why do something so different then other leagues, what sense does it make ?
    It all starts with the goaltending.

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    Re: Utica College Pioneers - 2018-19 Season: Young Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by sshablak View Post
    LMAO...So convoluted, why do something so different then other leagues, what sense does it make ?
    It's definitely different, but it's cool that they are making a conscious effort to try and break ties in standings, while providing excitement to the fans and players. I don't see a huge problem with it. It is a little confusing to "score a goal" and have it not count in your season totals but whatever.
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    Re: Utica College Pioneers - 2018-19 Season: Young Guns

    The standings here at USCHO don't reflect the point rules.
    It all starts with the goaltending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sshablak View Post
    The standings here at USCHO don't reflect the point rules.
    Yeah, USCHO is only going to recognize the official NCAA points calculations (ie., the traditional W-L-T being worth 2,0 and 1 points). This is going to confuse a lot of fans who aren't aware of how the UCHC operates. (Did me, too.)

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    Re: Utica College Pioneers - 2018-19 Season: Young Guns

    I believe the MIAC does exactly the same, probably where the UCHC got the idea from. I like it.
    Also, I felt bad for the many unaware folks that left the Aud last night after the 5v5 OT during the break.

    Correct league standings are on the UCHC and collegehockeystats sites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcase View Post
    I believe the MIAC does exactly the same, probably where the UCHC got the idea from. I like it.
    Also, I felt bad for the many unaware folks that left the Aud last night after the 5v5 OT during the break.

    Correct league standings are on the UCHC and collegehockeystats sites.
    Not a big fan of shootouts, but the 3x3 was a blast. I've only seen it once before, and that one was maybe 1:00 long and due to multiple concurrent penalties. It's been happening a fair amount in the UCHC this year, and I'm all for it as a "2nd OT" type of deal. It's almost inevitable that somebody will score, it seems; only one conference game has gone to a shootout, IIRC.

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    Re: Utica College Pioneers - 2018-19 Season: Young Guns

    UCHC has the same point rules as the Big Ten Hockey Conference (and perhaps others) and the D1 side of USCHO is able to show correct standings and points for them...........
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