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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenthoven View Post
    You misunderstand me. I work in a warehouse. Blue collar. An honest dollar is an honest dollar to me. Period. However, I run an entire building by myself. If I take a minor pay cut, and get the same benefits, and get a LOT less stress due to the job I'm doing, because of the min wage laws...it's worth considering. Employers are NOT going to adjust wages due to min wage (oh you've been here x years, and now min wage is y, so we'll now pay you z).

    I will never look down on someone working an honest job, whatever that may be.
    My company bumped up their minimum wage to $15 (custodial staff, entry level animal care, etc). Maybe 100-200 people out of 2000 employees. It was a year+ long process, but they eventually adjusted the pay of _everyone_, even those of us making six figures. It cost the company millions of dollars a year.

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    Re: SCOTUS 14: Confirming a Rabid Partisan to Own the Libs

    Quote Originally Posted by BassAle View Post
    My company bumped up their minimum wage to $15 (custodial staff, entry level animal care, etc). Maybe 100-200 people out of 2000 employees. It was a year+ long process, but they eventually adjusted the pay of _everyone_, even those of us making six figures. It cost the company millions of dollars a year.
    That would be great if every company did that. However, I fear that you may be the exception, not the rule.

    Edit: and kudos to your company for doing that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BassAle View Post
    My company bumped up their minimum wage to $15 (custodial staff, entry level animal care, etc). Maybe 100-200 people out of 2000 employees. It was a year+ long process, but they eventually adjusted the pay of _everyone_, even those of us making six figures. It cost the company millions of dollars a year.
    This. I had several clients during the height of the Fight for $15 that raised their floor (not necessarily to $15, but most had the goal of getting there by a certain point). Every single one that did adjusted the pay scales all the way up the chain. For some of the reasons Brent mentioned, you simply can't raise the floor without making adjustments upwards. Now there may be other consequences (i.e. raising prices of goods, eliminating bonuses, etc.), but, at least with the clients that I worked with, the raising of the floor led to an increase all the way up the chain. Something about a rising tide lifting all boats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenthoven View Post
    That would be great if every company did that. However, I fear that you may be the exception, not the rule.

    Edit: and kudos to your company for doing that!
    And it’s not even close to the best thing about his employer. They truly are an incredible organization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew S. View Post
    And it’s not even close to the best thing about his employer. They truly are an incredible organization.
    Mine's great, if you were hired 6-7 years ago or earlier. Now it's a little above average. They love the grandfathering in of things. I have benefited greatly from that (17 years, as of this past Labor Day).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenthoven View Post
    Mine's great, if you were hired 6-7 years ago or earlier. Now it's a little above average. They love the grandfathering in of things. I have benefited greatly from that (17 years, as of this past Labor Day).
    I’m also an old timer at my company. 14 years. It’s a big company in a small isolated town, so it’s the only game in town for me. Once the kid is out of school I think we’re going to bounce around out west.

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    Re: SCOTUS 14: Confirming a Rabid Partisan to Own the Libs

    It's over. Y'all lost. Back to whining about Russia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BassAle View Post
    I’m also an old timer at my company. 14 years. It’s a big company in a small isolated town, so it’s the only game in town for me. Once the kid is out of school I think we’re going to bounce around out west.
    We're not the only game in town, but from all I've heard, we are still somehow the best in the industry in this area, for employee stuff. I have seen, and this DOESN'T apply to just Millennials, that blue collar is still a stigma. It's sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenthoven View Post
    You misunderstand me. I work in a warehouse. Blue collar. An honest dollar is an honest dollar to me. Period. However, I run an entire building by myself. If I take a minor pay cut, and get the same benefits, and get a LOT less stress due to the job I'm doing, because of the min wage laws...it's worth considering. Employers are NOT going to adjust wages due to min wage (oh you've been here x years, and now min wage is y, so we'll now pay you z).

    I will never look down on someone working an honest job, whatever that may be.
    Brent, here’s the thing, you did denigrate them. Even using a term like “flipping burgers” is pretty demeaning, it gives off the attitude that their work is easier than yours.

    But yes, raising the minimum wage will not raise other wages, at least not automatically. What is does do is give us leverage against employers by creating more opportunities for working class people to work a job that lets them live. I mean, there’s a lot more that we can do but that involves things like unions and socialism.

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    Re: SCOTUS 14: Confirming a Rabid Partisan to Own the Libs

    It needs to be unstigmatized as the cost of a four year degree won’t be going down anytime soon

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    Brent, here’s the thing, you did denigrate them. Even using a term like “flipping burgers” is pretty demeaning, it gives off the attitude that their work is easier than yours.

    But yes, raising the minimum wage will not raise other wages, at least not automatically. What is does do is give us leverage against employers by creating more opportunities for working class people to work a job that lets them live. I mean, there’s a lot more that we can do but that involves things like unions and socialism.
    It IS easier. That's not an insult, that's a fact. Mowing a lawn is easier than being a cashier at a gas station. The stigma is that it's not worthy of consideration of being a productive member of society. It's not an "honorable" job. It IS an honorable job. You're doing what needs to be done to provide for yourself, your family, whoever.
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    Re: SCOTUS 14: Confirming a Rabid Partisan to Own the Libs

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimjamesak View Post
    Wait a minute, you went from “Democrats don’t care about the working class either” to “Bill Clinton should’ve been impeached”? JFC Travis Pastrana couldn’t make that jump.
    Lol. I’m stealing that.

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    That wasn't the Republican party I grew up with. It's why I abandoned them.

    And the Democrats introduced the 3 Strike policy, which massively backfired (I agreed with it in principle, unfortunately, as I said, it backfired).
    So vote republican

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    Re: SCOTUS 14: Confirming a Rabid Partisan to Own the Libs

    Just a note to remember:

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    Quote Originally Posted by bronconick View Post
    The Voting Rights Act would still be in force.
    Yeah but the Democrats are just as bad as Republicans

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    Quote Originally Posted by dxmnkd316 View Post

    So vote republican
    Nice trolling attempt. Not gonna work.
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    Re: SCOTUS 14: Confirming a Rabid Partisan to Own the Libs

    It’s not trolling. It’s commentary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
    It’s not trolling. It’s commentary.
    It's trolling when I've explicitly said I'm done with the Republican party.

    I could also say "suck a dck." It's just commentary.
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    Re: SCOTUS 14: Confirming a Rabid Partisan to Own the Libs

    Yet you carry water for them at every opportunity.

    Do you get tired of walking like a duck and talking like one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
    Yet you carry water for them at every opportunity.

    Do you get tired of walking like a duck and talking like one?
    Ever get tired of condemning anyone to the right of Bern a Tea Party member?
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    Re: SCOTUS 14: Confirming a Rabid Partisan to Own the Libs

    Are you drunk?

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