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    Brown game. There were more RPI fans than Brown fans. RPI 1st line 17,16,39 was in the O zone often and looked very good. The other lines much less O zone time.
    A reason the RPI shot total is so low is that RPI often gets into the zone and passes which are broken up or shoot off net. RPI also often passes back to a trailing player
    not forward. Rebounds are as good as a pass. FOs aren't bad. 1st 15 games 2018 4-11-0, 2017 3-9-3, 2016 2-13-0. Next 15 will be better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPI67 View Post
    Brown game. There were more RPI fans than Brown fans. RPI 1st line 17,16,39 was in the O zone often and looked very good. The other lines much less O zone time.
    A reason the RPI shot total is so low is that RPI often gets into the zone and passes which are broken up or shoot off net. RPI also often passes back to a trailing player
    not forward. Rebounds are as good as a pass. FOs aren't bad. 1st 15 games 2018 4-11-0, 2017 3-9-3, 2016 2-13-0. Next 15 will be better.
    Increasing by one victory per year=progress. At that rate we should be at .500 in 3 to 4 more years. Just not really a fast enough rate for me. We have to do better and I think we can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrDemento View Post
    Increasing by one victory per year=progress. At that rate we should be at .500 in 3 to 4 more years. Just not really a fast enough rate for me. We have to do better and I think we can.
    ...and Smith would be sacked by then. Next year's the year of reckoning. It's his team out there. What will they be able to do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
    ...and Smith would be sacked by then. Next year's the year of reckoning. It's his team out there. What will they be able to do?
    IMO heís on the hot seat now. The way he blew up all the lines against Yale 15 mins into the game were the signs of a desperate man to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noresmen View Post
    IMO heís on the hot seat now. The way he blew up all the lines against Yale 15 mins into the game were the signs of a desperate man to me.

    I can't blame Smith for blowing up. They were totally out hustled at every play. I don't think this means he is desperate. IMO it shows passion and that he expects more from this team. I can't blame him. They have not looked good in the first period as of late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrDemento View Post
    Increasing by one victory per year=progress. At that rate we should be at .500 in 3 to 4 more years. Just not really a fast enough rate for me. We have to do better and I think we can.
    At that rate, we may not live long enough to make the NCAA tourney.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
    ...and Smith would be sacked by then. Next year's the year of reckoning. It's his team out there. What will they be able to do?
    It won't be completely his team next season, but I agree it is the year of reckoning. I do think that finishing in the top 8 of the ECAC this year is not too much to ask.

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    Burgess getting tossed probably had alot to do with line changes at Yale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noresmen View Post
    IMO he’s on the hot seat now. The way he blew up all the lines against Yale 15 mins into the game were the signs of a desperate man to me.
    I don't see them cutting this contract early. The Appert firing was a bit of a special case because he was given extensions that no sane administrator would EVER offer. Extend if he does well over the course of 3 or 4 seasons, not 4 years every time he finishes even a game over 500.

    The Burgess toss was at 19:00. I can understand changing it up for the 2nd and 3rd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Baer View Post
    It won't be completely his team next season, but I agree it is the year of reckoning. I do think that finishing in the top 8 of the ECAC this year is not too much to ask.
    It would certainly show significant progress towards what the administration is expecting to see. If it isn't at least double digit wins, I'd say do a bit of a longer search so they're ready when the contract's up.
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    Are we really talking about getting rid of the coach after less than a season and a half?
    This team has made great strides under Smith. He has them playing much better defense and clearing out the defensive zone. The fact that they can't score has nothing to do with his coaching.
    Burgess has at least one great scoring chance in every game, and he converts one in ten. Wiffen is another disappointment. If Polino is going to be our leading goal scorer, we are in big trouble.
    And we are.
    I can only hope that he has done some excellent recruiting for the upcoming seasons.
    My only problem with Smith is how he handles the goalies. I think he has killed Marshall's confidence, and might be doing the same to Savory.
    I don't know what Perry did to him, but he also is being mishandled in my opinion.
    That said, I think we need to give him a little more time to figure this out, before we start a search for a new coach.
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    Are we really talking about getting rid of the coach after less than a season and a half?
    This team has made great strides under Smith. He has them playing much better defense and clearing out the defensive zone. The fact that they can't score has nothing to do with his coaching.
    Burgess has at least one great scoring chance in every game, and he converts one in ten. Wiffen is another disappointment. If Polino is going to be our leading goal scorer, we are in big trouble.
    And we are.
    I can only hope that he has done some excellent recruiting for the upcoming seasons.
    My only problem with Smith is how he handles the goalies. I think he has killed Marshall's confidence, and might be doing the same to Savory.
    I don't know what Perry did to him, but he also is being mishandled in my opinion.
    That said, I think we need to give him a little more time to figure this out, before we start a search for a new coach.
    It'd be way too early to talk about the sack at this point. Player quality on the ice is understandable, which is why coaches get 3-5 year contracts. It isn't unreasonable, though, to want signs of progress in the program when it's under new leadership. First year is, "This is the hand I've been dealt." Second year, "Let's mold the systems in the way we want the program to be using what we have, we'll make some progress, and maybe get lucky." Third year, "We're kicking *** and taking names."
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    Quote Originally Posted by engineerhockeyfan View Post
    Are we really talking about getting rid of the coach after less than a season and a half?
    This team has made great strides under Smith. He has them playing much better defense and clearing out the defensive zone. The fact that they can't score has nothing to do with his coaching.
    Burgess has at least one great scoring chance in every game, and he converts one in ten. Wiffen is another disappointment. If Polino is going to be our leading goal scorer, we are in big trouble.
    And we are.
    I can only hope that he has done some excellent recruiting for the upcoming seasons.
    My only problem with Smith is how he handles the goalies. I think he has killed Marshall's confidence, and might be doing the same to Savory.
    I don't know what Perry did to him, but he also is being mishandled in my opinion.
    That said, I think we need to give him a little more time to figure this out, before we start a search for a new coach.
    Totally agree with the goalie situation. Perry played well in his relief appearance but appears to be mired back in the 3rd slot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by engineerhockeyfan View Post
    Are we really talking about getting rid of the coach after less than a season and a half?
    This team has made great strides under Smith. He has them playing much better defense and clearing out the defensive zone. The fact that they can't score has nothing to do with his coaching.
    Burgess has at least one great scoring chance in every game, and he converts one in ten. Wiffen is another disappointment. If Polino is going to be our leading goal scorer, we are in big trouble.
    And we are.
    I can only hope that he has done some excellent recruiting for the upcoming seasons.
    My only problem with Smith is how he handles the goalies. I think he has killed Marshall's confidence, and might be doing the same to Savory.
    I don't know what Perry did to him, but he also is being mishandled in my opinion.
    That said, I think we need to give him a little more time to figure this out, before we start a search for a new coach.
    I agree that he deserves more than 1.5 seasons, but I expected improvement at a faster rate. Part of that is due to his cleaning house. As to the recruits he has for future years, only time will tell, but although there are some who are good and I assume that they are committed to his system, there is no game breaker. That can be seen by the fact that NZ has ranked none of them higher than 4.00, and the only 4.00, Michael Cameron, is probably off our list. While we are unlikely to get someone rated at 5.00, some at the 4.25 or 4.50 levels would really help. Our only current player rated above 4.00 is Burgess who was a 4.25, and his injuries have probably diminished that. Reilly, Lacka, and Zieky were 4.00. I think that is it. The current seniors are from before NZ started. Also Leppanen was never evaluated and apparently Gornall wasn't either. While these rankings aren't perfect, of course, there is a definite positive correlation between talent level and how they are rated. (Hayhurst might be worth more than his 3.75.)


    Edit: Zieky was 4.00 a year ago. He is 3.50 now.
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    We have 19 games remaining. We need 6 wins for double digit, 13 for 500.

    Let's do this Smith style, and let's take a look at the next 4 games (I know he does 5, but a little tough to do that with two-game series weekends). We have Northeastern, UVM, Harvard, and USMA. UVM (bottom of the table HEA) and USMA (Atlantic) are must win if we want to make some progress. Just do the best we can vs. Northeastern, and hope for something to click vs. Hahvahd. 2-2-0 would be a good goal; I'd be pleased with 2-1-1 or better. Anything lower than 500 on these 4 games would be detrimental.
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    We have 19 games remaining. We need 6 wins for double digit, 13 for 500.

    Let's do this Smith style, and let's take a look at the next 4 games (I know he does 5, but a little tough to do that with two-game series weekends). We have Northeastern, UVM, Harvard, and USMA. UVM (bottom of the table HEA) and USMA (Atlantic) are must win if we want to make some progress. Just do the best we can vs. Northeastern, and hope for something to click vs. Hahvahd. 2-2-0 would be a good goal; I'd be pleased with 2-1-1 or better. Anything lower than 500 on these 4 games would be detrimental.
    I would agree with the caveat that UVM is at home making that harder.

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    I would agree with the caveat that UVM is at home making that harder.
    If we can beat Union and UML away, we can beat UVM away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
    We have 19 games remaining. We need 6 wins for double digit, 13 for 500.

    Let's do this Smith style, and let's take a look at the next 4 games (I know he does 5, but a little tough to do that with two-game series weekends). We have Northeastern, UVM, Harvard, and USMA. UVM (bottom of the table HEA) and USMA (Atlantic) are must win if we want to make some progress. Just do the best we can vs. Northeastern, and hope for something to click vs. Hahvahd. 2-2-0 would be a good goal; I'd be pleased with 2-1-1 or better. Anything lower than 500 on these 4 games would be detrimental.
    With our current goal production, you can't expect any game to be in the win column. Army always plays us tough and as Ralph said, UVM is at home.
    I believe that we can take those two games, but I wouldn't bet on it.
    Until we can score goals at a reasonable rate, we can't take anything for granted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by engineerhockeyfan View Post
    Are we really talking about getting rid of the coach after less than a season and a half?
    This team has made great strides under Smith. He has them playing much better defense and clearing out the defensive zone. The fact that they can't score has nothing to do with his coaching.
    Burgess has at least one great scoring chance in every game, and he converts one in ten. Wiffen is another disappointment. If Polino is going to be our leading goal scorer, we are in big trouble.
    And we are.
    I can only hope that he has done some excellent recruiting for the upcoming seasons.
    My only problem with Smith is how he handles the goalies. I think he has killed Marshall's confidence, and might be doing the same to Savory.
    I don't know what Perry did to him, but he also is being mishandled in my opinion.
    That said, I think we need to give him a little more time to figure this out, before we start a search for a new coach.
    I donít think thereís a need to take shots at any of these players. Polino in college may not be a goal scorer but letís be honest who has he played with thatís allowed him to be one? After speaking with his father at the Princeton game I never knew that he had major hip surgery the spring before he entered RPI. His dad said heís finally healthy 18 months after surgery. So both he and Burgess has had major surgery. Thatís a lot of any one to come back from. Before you take shots at any of these players remember they are college kids trying to play a sport that they love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
    If we can beat Union and UML away, we can beat UVM away.
    I didn't write that we can't beat them.

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