2018-19 WCHA Season: 3 Bids And The Second Round?

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Re: 2018-19 WCHA Season: 3 Bids And The Second Round?

Michigan Tech, 1-5, yep that sadly sounds about right.

[manurespreader]

Re: 2018-19 WCHA Season: 3 Bids And The Second Round?

Michigan Tech, 1-5, yep that sadly sounds about right.

Yep,
And could easily be 1-7 by new years. Not what we thought of at the beginning of the year. I don't see Tech winning the WCHA again, I don't see more than two bids and honestly, that's iffy too.

[Shirtless Guy]

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Yep,
And could easily be 1-7 by new years. Not what we thought of at the beginning of the year. I don't see Tech winning the WCHA again, I don't see more than two bids and honestly, that's iffy too.

Well if LSSU keeps it up and wins the GLI, you should have 3 teams that are in decent shape to make runs at at large bids with BGSU, MSUM, and LSSU. If one of those 3 doesn't win the tournament...who knows.

[manurespreader]

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Here is a pairwise question. lets say you are UNO, and you split a series with a team such as ASU. who wins the comparison? do you simply split it, or does one team win based on winning games in the other rink?

[Shirtless Guy]

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Here is a pairwise question. lets say you are UNO, and you split a series with a team such as ASU. who wins the comparison? do you simply split it, or does one team win based on winning games in the other rink?

head to head is just wins straight up. There are 3 categories that determine PWR.
RPI (1 point)
record vs Common Opponents (1 point)
H2H (1 point for each win)

If UNO has the edge in RPI and ASU has the edge in CO and they split the series 1-1-0 the Pairwise Comparison would be 2-2 but the tiebreaker is RPI so UNO would win (hypothetically of course).

The biggest issue I've had with PWR is that there is no possible way to "flip" an RPI comparison loss without a head to head win. This is why last year was such a great schedule for MTU and why I am always advocating they participate in more tournaments. The easiest way to overcome MTU's "bad" conference is to play as many single games against NC opponents and win them, giving you a chance to flip comparisons despite a deficiency in RPI.

If you go 1-0 against a bunch of teams you at least have a chance to flip enough comparisons to get yourself top 16.

[manurespreader]

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head to head is just wins straight up. There are 3 categories that determine PWR.
RPI (1 point)
record vs Common Opponents (1 point)
H2H (1 point for each win)

If UNO has the edge in RPI and ASU has the edge in CO and they split the series 1-1-0 the Pairwise Comparison would be 2-2 but the tiebreaker is RPI so UNO would win (hypothetically of course).

The biggest issue I've had with PWR is that there is no possible way to "flip" an RPI comparison loss without a head to head win. This is why last year was such a great schedule for MTU and why I am always advocating they participate in more tournaments. The easiest way to overcome MTU's "bad" conference is to play as many single games against NC opponents and win them, giving you a chance to flip comparisons despite a deficiency in RPI.

If you go 1-0 against a bunch of teams you at least have a chance to flip enough comparisons to get yourself top 16.

Somehow I thought you got points for winning away games.

So what you are saying also is that rather than going to Boston like MSU did last year and playing two games vs BU. if they had played 1 vs BU and 1 vs Lowell and won both, that would have been a better result. And would that also have benefited the rest of the teams in the league?

[purpleinnebraska]

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Somehow I thought you got points for winning away games.

So what you are saying also is that rather than going to Boston like MSU did last year and playing two games vs BU. if they had played 1 vs BU and 1 vs Lowell and won both, that would have been a better result. And would that also have benefited the rest of the teams in the league?

Road wins count extra for the RPI point, so if you split with a team at their place, you'll get an RPI boost out of it, which can (and often is) the tiebreaker between teams.

[MTUHuskies]

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Somehow I thought you got points for winning away games.

So what you are saying also is that rather than going to Boston like MSU did last year and playing two games vs BU. if they had played 1 vs BU and 1 vs Lowell and won both, that would have been a better result. And would that also have benefited the rest of the teams in the league?

Would it benefit the WCHA if they could get a couple NC teams to come in and play at Tech and NMU on Friday night then drive 100 miles to play the other team on Saturday? Assuming Tech and NMU win both nights? I'd like to see that type of arrangement. It would be fun to see some different teams and one game against each would be OK with me, I dont need it to be a two-game series.

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[Shirtless Guy]

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Would it benefit the WCHA if they could get a couple NC teams to come in and play at Tech and NMU on Friday night then drive 100 miles to play the other team on Saturday? Assuming Tech and NMU win both nights? I'd like to see that type of arrangement. It would be fun to see some different teams and one game against each would be OK with me, I dont need it to be a two-game series.

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on some level yes, but you have to win...it could also help if you win a bunch of those and are able to win common op against both teams because they lost to NMU in their one game while MTU went 3-1 or whatever...

[UAHStatman]

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In case you were wondering, it's the WCHA who hands out suspensions to Arizona State players.
http://undhockey.areavoices.com/?p=114462

[TalonsUpPuckDown]

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Here's a summary of the top 5 teams 2nd half schedules.

Tech      Home (8)  BG, Mankato, Anchorage, Northern
          Away (8)  Mankato, Bemidji and Anchorage back-2-back, LSSU
BG        Home (8)  Bemidji, Ferris, Alaska, Huntsville
          Away (8)  Tech and Alaska back-2-back, Northern, Bemidji
Mankato   Home (8)  Tech, LSSU, Huntsville, Bemidji
          Away (8)  Ferris, Northern, Tech and Alaska back-2-back
Northern  Home (6)  Mankato, BG, LSSU
          Away (10) Alaska and Anchorage back-2-back (blech), Huntsville, Bemidji, Tech
LSSU      Home (8)  Huntsville, Bemidji, Tech, Ferris
          Away (8)  Anchorage, Mankato, Ferris, Northern
Bemidji   Home (8)  Alaska, Tech, Northern, BG
          Away (8)  BG, LSSU, Ferris, Mankato

Four teams have back-to-back away series that includes a trip to the 49th.

Northern appears to have the biggest challenge (2 fewer home games and an AK back-to-back) while the newly crowned GLI champs have an opportunity to host a first round playoff game.

[davyd83]

Here's a summary of the top 5 teams 2nd half schedules.

Tech      Home (8)  BG, Mankato, Anchorage, Northern
          Away (8)  Mankato, Bemidji and Anchorage back-2-back, LSSU
BG        Home (8)  Bemidji, Ferris, Alaska, Huntsville
          Away (8)  Tech and Alaska back-2-back, Northern, Bemidji
Mankato   Home (8)  Tech, LSSU, Huntsville, Bemidji
          Away (8)  Ferris, Northern, Tech and Alaska back-2-back
Northern  Home (6)  Mankato, BG, LSSU
          Away (10) Alaska and Anchorage back-2-back (blech), Huntsville, Bemidji, Tech
LSSU      Home (8)  Huntsville, Bemidji, Tech, Ferris
          Away (8)  Anchorage, Mankato, Ferris, Northern
Bemidji   Home (8)  Alaska, Tech, Northern, BG
          Away (8)  BG, LSSU, Ferris, Mankato

Four teams have back-to-back away series that includes a trip to the 49th.

Northern appears to have the biggest challenge (2 fewer home games and an AK back-to-back) while the newly crowned GLI champs have an opportunity to host a first round playoff game.

The Tech/NMU series is home & home. NMU has 7 home/9 away, so does Tech.

[beaverhockeyfan]

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The non-conference schedule for the WCHA is completed, and it really pains me to post this..... The league had a winning percentage of 34.4 % in nonconference games.....

Hats off to Bowling Green, Lake Superior State and Mankato for carrying the torch this year. The rest of us, well, we sucked.......

2018-19 WCHA Non-Conference Schedule

29 NCHC Games (5-22-2)
17 Big10 Games (9-6-2)
8 Hockey East Games (5-3-0)
7 Atlantic Hockey Games (3-3-1)
4 ECAC Games (0-4-0)
5 Independent Games (0-4-1)
1 Interleague Games (Not counted in league total)
9 Exhibitions (Not counted in league or team total)
TOTAL: 22-42-6 0.344

ALABAMA-HUNTSVILLE (0-8-0)
-at Miami (2) L 1-5, L 0-4
-at Colorado College L 0-1
-at Denver L 0-6
-Arizona State (2) L 1-2, L 1-5
-vs Vermont L 1-4 (TD Bank Catamount Cup, Burlington, VT)
-vs Northeastern L 0-2 (TD Bank Catamount Cup, Burlington, VT)

ALASKA (0-5-1)
-at Arizona State (2) L 0-3, L 0-5
-St. Cloud State (2) L 2-3, L 2-6
-at Denver (2) L 1-4, T 3-3

ALASKA-ANCHORAGE (1-5-0)
-Colorado College (2) L 2-10, W 4-3
-at North Dakota (2) L 2-5, L 3-4
-at Nebraska-Omaha (2) L 0-3, L 0-4

BEMIDJI STATE (2-4-2)
-Lakehead (EXH) W 5-1
-North Dakota W 2-1
-at North Dakota T 1-1
-Merrimack (2) W 8-3, L 0-1
-at St. Cloud State (2) L 0-2, L 4-7
-at Air Force (2) T 3-3, L 3-6

BOWLING GREEN (5-1-1)
-at Mercyhurst W 8-2
-at Western Michigan W 6-2
-at Robert Morris L 2-3
-Robert Morris W 6-0
-Western Michigan W 4-1
-at Ohio State W 8-2
-Ohio State T 2-2
-at US Under 18 Team (EXH) W 5-4
-Windsor (EXH) W 7-3

FERRIS STATE (3-5-0)
-US Under 18 Team (EXH) W 3-1
-Lethbridge (EXH) W 5-2
-Western Michigan L 3-4
-at Western Michigan L 0-5
-Mercyhurst (2) W 5-2, L 1-3
-at Michigan State L 3-5
-Michigan State W 4-1
-at Minnesota (2) L 3-5, W 3-2

LAKE SUPERIOR STATE (5-1-0)
-at Merrimack (2) W 5-4, W 1-0
-Ni****ing (EXH-2) W 3-1, W 4-0
-Michigan (2) W 5-2, L 3-5
-at US Under 18 Team (EXH)
-vs. Michigan State W 4-3 OT (Great Lakes Invitational, Detroit, MI)
-vs. Michigan Tech W 6-3 (Great Lakes Invitational, Detroit, MI)

MICHIGAN TECH (1-6-1)
-Minnesota-Duluth (2) L 1-2, L 2-5
-at Wisconsin (2) W 6-2, L 2-6
-at Clarkson (2) L 1-3, L 1-3
-vs. Michigan T 2-2 (Tech wins shootout) (Great Lakes Invitational, Detroit, MI)
-vs. Lake Superior State L 3-6 (Great Lakes Invitational, Detroit, MI)

MINNESOTA STATE (5-2-1)
-Mount Royal (EXH) W 7-3
-Boston University (2) W 4-3, W 5-3
-at North Dakota (2) W 7-4, L 3-4
-at Minnesota W 5-1
-Minnesota W 2-1
-vs. Minnesota-Duluth L 3-4 OT (Desert Hockey Classic, Glendale, AZ)
-vs. Arizona State T 2-2 (Shootout loss) (Desert Hockey Classic, Glendale, AZ)

NORTHERN MICHIGAN (1-6-0)
-at Michigan State (2) L 2-4, W 4-3
-at St. Cloud State (2) L 1-4, L 0-5
-Cornell (2) L 1-3, L 2-3
-at Notre Dame L 1-2 OT

[SCSU BlackandRed]

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Aren’t you missing Ferris’ split with Minnesota?

[beaverhockeyfan]

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Aren’t you missing Ferris’ split with Minnesota?

Yes I am, thanks! Post edited below.