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Originally posted by lugnut92 View Post(Note: I wrote "IN" in situations when we would have locked up a playoff spot. I might be wrong about these, but I'm pretty sure...)
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Originally posted by shelfit View PostWe had some of those recruited walk on type of players and honestly they were almost all dead weight for our team. You're better off getting rid of those types of players. Addition by subtraction. Guess where most of the complaints about ice time came from too?! It was ridiculous. It was like, Really? You have no points in two seasons and you think you should have more playing time and a higher role on the team? Right! Get real!
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Originally posted by MAHOCKEY FAN View Postso...as the rosters get bigger, 18 scholarships (is that still the number?), get stretched. I think you will continue to see these committed walk-ons. I have heard of this from other schools as well. not sure what the longer term promises are but maybe they start with "nothing freshman year, 1/4 sophomore, and 1/2 for junior, full for senior" look at the size of some of the rosters...BC has 24 rostered. Any red-shirts? TTT would know better, i shouldn't even mention BC without him!
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Originally posted by shelfit View PostWe had some of those recruited walk on type of players and honestly they were almost all dead weight for our team. You're better off getting rid of those types of players. Addition by subtraction. Guess where most of the complaints about ice time came from too?! It was ridiculous. It was like, Really? You have no points in two seasons and you think you should have more playing time and a higher role on the team? Right! Get real!Last edited by hab; 02-11-2019, 05:38 PM.
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Originally posted by hab View PostAs is always the case with posts by Shelfit, this is an incredible oversimplification that ignores the facts. What it ignores is that programs have a LOT of options that go beyond the limit on athletic scholarships. Look at the Ivies. You could regard their entire rosters as recruited walk-ons in that they populate their rosters entirely without the aid of athletic scholarships. RPI also has a number of very high value academic scholarship opportunities (e.g. the Renssalaer medals) that cover a very large percentage of costs. Many academically inclined top-notch hockey players can be encouraged to "walk on" to teams at universities with high academic standards, including some of the best D3 programs. Not sure what program Shelfit was associated with, but probably one without those sorts of academic drawing cards . Mic drop.Last edited by shelfit; 02-12-2019, 10:35 AM.
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Originally posted by shelfit View PostI said we would have been better off without the dead weight of players that weren't good enough to really contribute to the team but still complained about their ice time and roles. That's simple and straightforward enough for any fool to understand, even you. I was talking about the number of scholarships or how they're distributed each year. I was talking about the frustrations of having teammates that couldn't really play at the same level and what's the point of having them on the team?! To fill uniforms? I'd rather have fewer players but who could all play at that level."... And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;" -- Rudyard Kipling
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Originally posted by ARM View PostOn most teams, they aren't dead weight. They contribute by ensuring there are enough players for a full practice during times of illness, injury, and exams, and they are usually needed for a couple of games during the year that coincide with international tournaments or some other reason for a short bench. It requires a special person to stay ready and contribute when called upon. Are they All-Stars? No, but then most players on a roster are not. As with any role on the team, it is best filled by someone whose character is among her greatest strengths. And I know of some who started out as a walk-on and worked up to a more prominent role. They have my respect.Last edited by shelfit; 02-12-2019, 11:04 AM.
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Originally posted by shelfit View PostThat's all very idyllic and feel-good. I'm just giving what I experienced. Dead weight is dead weight and it's worse when they are also the biggest whiners and complainers on the team. You're better off without them in practice and in games. Drill killers that think they should have a better role on the team? Ya right! The "some" you refer to who start out as walk ons and work up to better roles are very rare. (I'm done with this topic)
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Originally posted by hab View PostAt some point, Shelfit, you may need to look in the mirror and recognize that your experience has nothing to do with the broader reality, and that your ambitions for coaching NCAA hockey are just not realistic.Last edited by shelfit; 02-12-2019, 09:14 PM.
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Originally posted by ARM View PostOn most teams, they aren't dead weight. They contribute by ensuring there are enough players for a full practice during times of illness, injury, and exams, and they are usually needed for a couple of games during the year that coincide with international tournaments or some other reason for a short bench. It requires a special person to stay ready and contribute when called upon. Are they All-Stars? No, but then most players on a roster are not. As with any role on the team, it is best filled by someone whose character is among her greatest strengths. And I know of some who started out as a walk-on and worked up to a more prominent role. They have my respect.
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Originally posted by Ralph Baer View PostRPI lost to Harvard 2-1.
The record breaking puck! Lovisa’s 54-save day gives her 3,853 through 124 career games. pic.twitter.com/lP3ubYOeMT
— RPI Athletics (@RPIAthletics) February 9, 2019
She could get to 4K before the regular season ends.
As to 4,094, that could be reached in the first round of the playoffs.
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Originally posted by hab View PostMy reputation is that I am an incurable optimist about this team. Looking forward to the new season... but concerned that our long standing problem of failure to put the biscuit in the basket has not been addressed.
Time to look forward to our last 3 games against 3 very talented teams: Princeton this afternoon, Colgate and Cornell next weekend. Two objectives: 1) need to somehow pick up one point in case Yale runs the table on their remaining schedule; and 2) dress rehearsal for the first round of playoffs. Chances are very good that we will face one of these three teams in the first round. With its defensive style RPI is capable of upsetting any team in one game, but the challenge of beating one of these teams in a three game series is beyond the capability of what we have seen from this team so far this year. So the question is: can they find another gear? I will be watching all games.
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