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  • Re: The States: At Least Michigan is Better Than Indiana

    I think that was a Wharrgarble, but am not sure. Need a judge's ruling on that one.
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      Originally posted by The Rube View Post
      I think that was a Wharrgarble, but am not sure. Need a judge's ruling on that one.
      Not Wharrgarble at all. It's pointing out what "part" of the government actually caused this problem.
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      • Re: The States: At Least Michigan is Better Than Indiana

        Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
        Not Wharrgarble at all. It's pointing out what "part" of the government actually caused this problem.
        And I'm with you on the gov't let this happen. They are partly to blame. However, the lender and borrower are also to blame.
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          Originally posted by The Rube View Post
          And I'm with you on the gov't let this happen. They are partly to blame. However, the lender and borrower are also to blame.
          If the Government had been allowed to do it's job it would have been illegal for the lender to do what they did and the borrower never would have had the option. But as we all know, we have too much regulation and enforcement right now.
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          • Re: The States: At Least Michigan is Better Than Indiana

            Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
            If the Government had been allowed to do it's job it would have been illegal for the lender to do what they did and the borrower never would have had the option. But as we all know, we have too much regulation and enforcement right now.
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              Originally posted by unofan View Post
              That's fine, but people pushing loans knowing they are planning to bundle them into securities and then not care if they ever get paid off (because they've already gotten their money) should be in jail.
              NO! This is legally incorrect. Again, go back to The Big Short. How did Batman know to short the real estate market? Because he had his intern check on the loans that made up the securitized debt, and it was PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE that those mortgages were in default. Making a stupid bet (that real estate would continually go up) is not a legal basis for being indicted and arrested. Fraud is. You can write NINJA loans to strippers if you wish, as long as you disclose their source of income and how much they make (stripping, in this case) truthfully.

              Also I believe the NY AG went after Hank Greenberg and the fraudfest that was AIG but for some reason they couldn't nail him on criminal charges but he was fined personally for his shi tty company's disgraceful acts.
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              • Re: The States: At Least Michigan is Better Than Indiana

                Originally posted by The Rube View Post
                If a frog had wings, it wouldn't bump its arse every time it jumped.
                And that's the attitude that gave us President Dump.
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                • Re: The States: At Least Michigan is Better Than Indiana

                  Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                  And that's the attitude that gave us President Dump.
                  Sure it is.

                  Just because it's a fact, doesn't mean people aren't trying to change the particular fact.
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                  • Re: The States: At Least Michigan is Better Than Indiana

                    Originally posted by The Rube View Post
                    Sure it is.

                    Just because it's a fact, doesn't mean people aren't trying to change the particular fact.
                    Change which way? The changes that are happening now are going against protecting the consumer.
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                    • Re: The States: At Least Michigan is Better Than Indiana

                      Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                      Change which way? The changes that are happening now are going against protecting the consumer.
                      That's not going to last long. I think no matter what, that will change soon, at the latest, it'll start with the next presidential election. Personally, I'd say to Warren, "Hey, you won't be prez, but here, fix this financial stuff. Free reign, and go!" I'd be for that.
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                      • Re: The States: At Least Michigan is Better Than Indiana

                        Originally posted by The Rube View Post
                        That's not going to last long. I think no matter what, that will change soon, at the latest, it'll start with the next presidential election. Personally, I'd say to Warren, "Hey, you won't be prez, but here, fix this financial stuff. Free reign, and go!" I'd be for that.
                        If she doesn't win the nomination but we win the White House she would be very valuable as a public face of consumer protection and as the "Louis Brandeis" wing of fiscal reform. It will be interesting to see how a new Democratic administration would calibrate itself:

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                        • Re: The States: At Least Michigan is Better Than Indiana

                          Honestly, if we could get W Buffett into gov't finance...that'd be wonderful. Said the same thing with Perot. Limit them to just finance stuff, but they'd be great. They know how to make a buck, if you didn't notice. I think Warren could do the same thing.
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                          • Originally posted by Rover View Post
                            NO! This is legally incorrect. Again, go back to The Big Short. How did Batman know to short the real estate market? Because he had his intern check on the loans that made up the securitized debt, and it was PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE that those mortgages were in default. Making a stupid bet (that real estate would continually go up) is not a legal basis for being indicted and arrested. Fraud is. You can write NINJA loans to strippers if you wish, as long as you disclose their source of income and how much they make (stripping, in this case) truthfully.

                            Also I believe the NY AG went after Hank Greenberg and the fraudfest that was AIG but for some reason they couldn't nail him on criminal charges but he was fined personally for his shi tty company's disgraceful acts.
                            if "everyone" knew that the securitized debt was in default, then that would include the companies who were selling them. Do you think they accurately described the health of those products to the companies who were buying them? If not, that sounds like fraud to me.
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                            • Originally posted by LynahFan View Post
                              if "everyone" knew that the securitized debt was in default, then that would include the companies who were selling them. Do you think they accurately described the health of those products to the companies who were buying them? If not, that sounds like fraud to me.
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                              • Re: The States: At Least Michigan is Better Than Indiana

                                Let me ask this:

                                Are "big box" retailers any different with opportunities to sign up for their company's credit card? Their goals are to get every person through the doors to get the card. Is this not the same thing, just on a smaller scale? I mean, sure some people will rock a 790 score and will be able to take advantage of the 10% discount on a large purchase that will be paid off in a month. But how many people are in the 530 range and have no business with another card? The latter are played like a fiddle... Big Box don't care that their card will be the dagger that allows financial suicide for the cardholder.
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