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    Quote Originally Posted by WeAreNDHockey View Post
    In a vacuum you are 100% correct. The cops are there to protect and serve, and were we not living in a country where every black man in it has a legitimate reason to wonder if the next cop he's going to encounter will be one of the good ones, or one of the bad ones, I'd say yes, just drop the bucket and trash grabber and have a laugh with the cop who was just doing his job when the cop realizes in about 3 seconds nothing nefarious is going on. But if you think we live in that country you are not paying attention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WeAreNDHockey View Post
    In a vacuum you are 100% correct. The cops are there to protect and serve, and were we not living in a country where every black man in it has a legitimate reason to wonder if the next cop he's going to encounter will be one of the good ones, or one of the bad ones, I'd say yes, just drop the bucket and trash grabber and have a laugh with the cop who was just doing his job when the cop realizes in about 3 seconds nothing nefarious is going on. But if you think we live in that country you are not paying attention.
    I'm well aware of all of that I don't need to be lectured. The alternative to not slowing putting the bucket down then is to argue and along with others on hand continually agitating the cop while putting him even more on edge?

    Do any of you think I'm actually taking this idiot cop's side on this? Because im not. He screwed up and should have never put this man in this situation. But once he did take it that far what was the best and most logically safest course of action for this man to use in hope of defusing and staying alive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Handyman View Post
    Nah it's his fault...how dare he pick up trash at his home?!
    He replied to me. What did I post that makes this an appropriately snarky add on to that exchange?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slap Shot View Post
    I'm well aware of all of that I don't need to be lectured. The alternative to not slowing putting the bucket down then is to argue and along with others on hand continually agitating the cop while putting him even more on edge?

    Do any of you think I'm actually taking this idiot cop's side on this? Because im not. He screwed up and should have never put this man in this situation. But once he did take it that far what was the best and most logically safest course of action for this man to use in hope of defusing and staying alive?
    What you're saying is a black man should treat cops as bears: erratic, violent, and irrational. Stand still, raise your arms, and say "Whoa bear. Whoa bear."*

    This is essentially how I treat the Poors, so OK I can see that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    What you're saying is a black man should treat cops as bears: erratic, violent, and irrational. [/SIZE]
    Sad but true. You can't fight stupid and while I abhor the idea a man standing in his yard could be racially profiled and targeted by an idiot with a badge this is the world we're living in.

    btw search, "idiot cops" on YouTube and you'll see them doing all kinds of stupid s**t with white people as well. In reality the frequency is probably not the same but unless a cop is being filmed by Live PD they don't seem inclined to act on their best behavior.

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    Fifteenth Illinois State Police trooper/vehicle to be struck since January 1st, second fatally. For comparison, eight were struck *ALL* of last year.

    As someone who works construction on these same stretches of highway, I'm real close to recommending these distracted/drunk/etc drivers who hit these troopers get strung up to the light poles along the tollway like captured pirates were in the colonial Carribean era.

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    My SILís dad was hit last year. His coworker was killed and he just had a broken arm thankfully. He had been very vocal about getting more protection for his team on the stretch of stretch of road they were hit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aparch View Post
    Fifteenth Illinois State Police trooper/vehicle to be struck since January 1st, second fatally. For comparison, eight were struck *ALL* of last year.

    As someone who works construction on these same stretches of highway, I'm real close to recommending these distracted/drunk/etc drivers who hit these troopers get strung up to the light poles along the tollway like captured pirates were in the colonial Carribean era.
    I don't think I can say this any more clearly. MOVE. THE. ****. OVER.

    There have only been a handful of times I wasn't able to get over with an emergency vehicle on the side of the road. I slowed down to a crawl until I got by them.

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    Sixteenth ISP officer involved crash happened this morning on the Tri-State around Gurnee. Third fatality since Jan 1. and second this fu**ing week.




    Unfortunately MNS, we're preaching to the choir here, as the ones that need to hear it wont see it.

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    Pressure on Phoenix police over spike in officer-involved shootings


    Phoenix-based activist group Poder in Action said the Phoenix police department has a history of aggression and issued a travel advisory for minorities last year in response to police violence in the city. Parris Wallace works with Poder in Action. She told us about one shooting last year involving 34-year-old Rabi Brown, who was shot and killed by police responding to a call at a bus terminal. "He was sitting at one of the benches, and somebody said that they saw him playing with a gun," Wallace said. Arizona is an open carry state, which means it's legal to carry a gun in plain sight. But at least one witness said she did not see Brown with a gun at the station, and that he appeared to be listening to music. "They ended up boarding the bus and shooting him in front of over 30 people," Wallace said.

    You want to know what stops the cops from killing people who are not a threat to them and are not committing felonies? Send a few more to prsion. We don't even need to see them in prison for 20 or 30 or 40 years. Manslaughter convictions and 5 or 10 years behind bars would do it. It is not the severity of the punishment that serves as a deterrent but the certainty of punishment. For far too long there has been an all but certain likelihood that if you kill someone for no good reason other than you panicked while serving as a cop, you do NO time. That is changing though as we've seen a few guilty verdicts and more cops landing behind bars. I want to live in a country where cops get automatic respect because they deserve automatic respect. When they stop needlessly killing unarmed people, maybe that will come to pass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeAreNDHockey View Post
    Pressure on Phoenix police over spike in officer-involved shootings





    You want to know what stops the cops from killing people who are not a threat to them and are not committing felonies? Send a few more to prsion. We don't even need to see them in prison for 20 or 30 or 40 years. Manslaughter convictions and 5 or 10 years behind bars would do it. It is not the severity of the punishment that serves as a deterrent but the certainty of punishment. For far too long there has been an all but certain likelihood that if you kill someone for no good reason other than you panicked while serving as a cop, you do NO time. That is changing though as we've seen a few guilty verdicts and more cops landing behind bars. I want to live in a country where cops get automatic respect because they deserve automatic respect. When they stop needlessly killing unarmed people, maybe that will come to pass.
    IMO, the MN Noor case is not looking good for him, nor another cop or two that arrived at the scene...that could be the start of it.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Rube View Post
    IMO, the MN Noor case is not looking good for him, nor another cop or two that arrived at the scene...that could be the start of it.....
    The Sgt. on the scene actually admitted to turning off her bodycam so as to keep private conversations private between herself and Noor. Other cops admitted to shenanigans, too. The MPD should be in Big Bad Trouble, Mr..
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    The Noor case isnt the start of it, it will be the "See Cops get in Trouble Too!" case. That case will be like the "Black Friend" racists have...the exception that proves the rule.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Handyman View Post
    The Noor case isnt the start of it, it will be the "See Cops get in Trouble Too!" case. That case will be like the "Black Friend" racists have...the exception that proves the rule.
    Pretty much, it's interesting to see everyone taking the victim's side here when the races are reversed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Handyman View Post
    The Noor case isnt the start of it, it will be the "See Cops get in Trouble Too!" case. That case will be like the "Black Friend" racists have...the exception that proves the rule.
    That's the thing. This case should be a lay up for the prosecution. Minority cop, white victim in her bathrobe. No suggestion by anyone that a weapon was even involved in the crime that had been called in. Shot by a cop sitting in a car who had to shoot across the front of his partner seated in the driver's seat.

    But the news stories I've read on the case create a sense that it's a bit of a mess. If they lose this one I don't see how you can ever successfully prosecute a cop in Minnesota.
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    Re: Cops 6: The More You Pay, The Faster We'll Come!

    That was already obvious after the Philando case.

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    That was already obvious after the Philando case.
    That was a tougher case for the prosecution. Not that they couldn't have or shouldn't have won it, but there was a gun in the car.
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    Re: Cops 6: The More You Pay, The Faster We'll Come!

    They should've won that one, the only rational reason the cop had to fear for his life was due to the order he gave to someone after already hearing that the person had a (legal) concealed weapon on them.

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    I am still waiting for the NRA outrage over the killing of a man carrying legally by the cops. Any day now right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SJHovey View Post
    That's the thing. This case should be a lay up for the prosecution. Minority cop, white victim in her bathrobe. No suggestion by anyone that a weapon was even involved in the crime that had been called in. Shot by a cop sitting in a car who had to shoot across the front of his partner seated in the driver's seat.

    But the news stories I've read on the case create a sense that it's a bit of a mess. If they lose this one I don't see how you can ever successfully prosecute a cop in Minnesota.
    It is a mess. Today a cop from Crystal (suburb of Mpls) testified that there was zero reason to be startled by an approaching person, happens all the time, and then due to some report (not yet released to public) theorized that Noor already has his gun unholstered and in hand. A COP testified this.

    Add to that all the "suggested" to Noor/partner "slapping of the car" (no fingerprints of Damond), the body cam stuff....hoo boy.
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