USCHO Music Thread: Less Talk, More Rock

[rufus]

I hated Zooropa and Pop but All That You Can't Leave Behind (2000) was brilliant and How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb was actually ok.

And I'm saying that as someone that bought War on vinyl the same year it was released and stood in line for 2 days (back in the day when you had to do that at the Daytons ticket office on Nicollete Ave. in downtown Mpls) to get tickets for their Joshua Tree shows in Mpls.



Correct. Not sure how that relationship was missed.



lolwut? I didn't say they were the greatest thing since sliced bread I asked who claimed they were.

ATYCLB was dreadful. Couple good songs, the last half was horrible. Especially the 'monkey in a tree' song.

Everyone was raving about it was U2's comeback. Blech!!

[solovsfett]

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I love 80’s music. From the pop stuff (prince, Duran Duran) to the stuff that hits me in the gut: Husker Du, The Replacements, Soul Asylum, Metallica, Slayer, Soundgarden, Megadeth, Bad Brains, Misfits, Fugazi, Minor Threat, Voivid, Die Kreuzen, Jesus Lizard, Minutemen and on and on.

I think Master Of Puppets went platinum with no mtv assistance or mass airplay.

[solovsfett]

Hair bands did not "lead" to grunge, they merely contributed. To say otherwise is fake news.

Also, outside of a couple songs, U2 has always sucked, and will continue to suck for as long as I live.

Grunge was happening in the 80’s underground: soundgarden, green river, Melvin’s et al. That it took off from 89-91 spoke to how vapid hair metal was. Kids wanted a voice and they sure got it for a few years.

Seeing Soundgarden in 89 and Pearl Jam opening for Smashing Pumkins And RHCP about a year later you could see it happening in real time. No one was talking about dokken or Motley Crue etc., that **** may as well have been on Neptune at that point.

[The Rube]

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Wrong. They got labelled as grunge for a reason. That they would later go on and transcend those labels is beside the point.

Tom Petty was labelled as New Wave. Listen to those first two albums. Absolutely appropriate. Even Damm the Torpedoes,really.

I'd say Smashing Pumpkins was more grunge than PJ and Soundgarden. To me, the latter was more of a classic rock form, updated a little.

Of course, Vedder himself said that the original grunge song was "Forever In Blue Jeans" by Neil Diamond (Milwaukee show, 1995, I was there when he said it; he then played it).

[rufus]

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Smashing Pumpkins grunge? If anything, they were the band farthest from it. Sometimes dreamy and mystical, other times fast charging with cutting guitars.

Have you heard Rhinoceros?

[The Rube]

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Smashing Pumpkins grunge? If anything, they were the band farthest from it. Sometimes dreamy and mystical, other times fast charging with cutting guitars.

Have you heard Rhinoceros?

I guess they just had those dirty guitar parts. I can't even call them riffs or hooks. Mystical is a decent description, I suppose, I just don't where to put them otherwise. They don't fit in anything except grunge, IMO.

[Slap Shot]

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I've never really tried to frame artists within the "grunge" label, but if one were to do it Soundgarden and PJ would 100% have to be included and it's ludicrous hearing people try to sound music savvy by claiming that they're not. It's as though they're trying to fight against being a correct label because it maligns their being a fan. Smashing Pumpkins isn't to me a grunge band on the whole but there are some grungy elements to some of their work.

[The Rube]

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I've never really tried to frame artists within the "grunge" label, but if one were to do it Soundgarden and PJ would 100% have to be included and it's ludicrous hearing people try to sound music savvy by claiming that they're not. It's as though they're trying to fight against being a correct label because it maligns their being a fan. Smashing Pumpkins isn't to me a grunge band on the whole but there are some grungy elements to some of their work.

Pearl Jam....to state the obvious, Neil Young is one of their biggest influences, and he wasn't grunge. I actually think PJ would have been BIGGER if they started in the 70s. I could maybe accept Soundgarden as grunge. They were a tough band to categorize. I lean towards classic rock, but I see the point otherwise. Nirvana was obviously grunge, so I compare bands' sound to that, and then form an opinion based on that.

[rufus]

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I guess they just had those dirty guitar parts. I can't even call them riffs or hooks. Mystical is a decent description, I suppose, I just don't where to put them otherwise. They don't fit in anything except grunge, IMO.

They're an arty metal/rock band. You could say they're Rush without the wankery.

Although Corgan did have his own sort of wankery, so yeah, the comparison stands.

[The Rube]

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They're an arty metal/rock band. You could say they're Rush without the wankery.

Although Corgan did have his own sort of wankery, so yeah, the comparison stands.

You're about to get reamed by all 6 Rush fans.

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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Soundgarden went through substantial stylistic changes over about 8 years. They started off as old school/early grunge (Screaming Life and Ultramega OK), then became alt metal as they got more polished (particularly Badmotorfinger), and I would say they were firmly progressive rock by DOTUS and the subsequent reunion that led to King Animal.

[rufus]

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You're about to get reamed by all 6 Rush fans.

Bring it, Rush sucks.

[WeAreNDHockey]

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You're about to get reamed by all 6 Rush fans.

Naaa, Rush draws some female fans now, so it's more like 7 or 8...
(And I say this as one of those 6 fans!)

[dxmnkd316]

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Bring it, Rush sucks.

Rush does suck.

and the pumpkins are not grunge.

[ScoobyDoo]

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Bring it, Rush sucks.

No.