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    Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. IV - It's all coming together

    Quote Originally Posted by MadCityRich View Post
    Tim, you KNOW Sampo's going to carve us up. So will the Krygiers and if we played C.C., Cruikshank would. They won't admit it, but they'll have a big ****ing chip on their shoulders. Like I posted earlier, there's GOT to be something else going on. I'm not jumping ship, but currently I don't feel any better about this program than I did before Mike Eaves got let go. Since spring, I've done a complete 180 regarding the team and the recruiting.
    I am with you Rich. You are right on carving us up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadCityRich View Post
    Tim, you KNOW Sampo's going to carve us up. So will the Krygiers and if we played C.C., Cruikshank would. They won't admit it, but they'll have a big ****ing chip on their shoulders. Like I posted earlier, there's GOT to be something else going on. I'm not jumping ship, but currently I don't feel any better about this program than I did before Mike Eaves got let go. Since spring, I've done a complete 180 regarding the team and the recruiting.
    I yes! Agreed on all points.

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    Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. IV - It's all coming together

    Ranta's a big loss up front this year, no doubt. I have no idea how the process works of getting them in and if it is a hockey staff issue or academic staff issue.

    Next year is the big influx of forward talent. Turcotte and Caufield are the big headliners, but guys like Lindmark and De St. Phalle are great players as well. Next year is the first year the staff will have had a big chance to put their stamp on forward recruits because of the forward pipeline that already existed when they got here, so while I hate being patient I'm telling myself I have to be patient.

    The staff has pulled the team out of the basement but it takes time to turn an established team around. It might be easier to start from scratch (Penn State) and have success than undo a bunch of mistakes that are locked in for years (UW) and have success when you think about it realistically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DPlaya View Post
    Ranta's a big loss up front this year, no doubt. I have no idea how the process works of getting them in and if it is a hockey staff issue or academic staff issue.

    Next year is the big influx of forward talent. Turcotte and Caufield are the big headliners, but guys like Lindmark and De St. Phalle are great players as well. Next year is the first year the staff will have had a big chance to put their stamp on forward recruits because of the forward pipeline that already existed when they got here, so while I hate being patient I'm telling myself I have to be patient.

    The staff has pulled the team out of the basement but it takes time to turn an established team around. It might be easier to start from scratch (Penn State) and have success than undo a bunch of mistakes that are locked in for years (UW) and have success when you think about it realistically.
    Here's the thing though, when the players for next year start looking at what has happened this summer... are they going to start having doubts about signing up? Why are so many people deciding to change their mind about coming to the program?

    That's my bigger long term concern at this point. Players have said they're coming, but at this point who knows if they will actually show up anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwhinwi View Post
    Here's the thing though, when the players for next year start looking at what has happened this summer... are they going to start having doubts about signing up? Why are so many people deciding to change their mind about coming to the program?

    That's my bigger long term concern at this point. Players have said they're coming, but at this point who knows if they will actually show up anymore.
    Who changed their mind? The Krygiers are the only ones who mentioned playing time and that may only have been to save face because they couldn't gain admission, who knows. And honestly, playing time this year would have been tough to gain for them this year.

    Edit: Cruikshank did when they changed his scholarship money, but that was a calculated gamble by the staff. They must have been willing to lose him if he balked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DPlaya View Post
    Who changed their mind? The Krygiers are the only ones who mentioned playing time and that may only have been to save face because they couldn't gain admission, who knows. And honestly, playing time this year would have been tough to gain for them this year.

    Edit: Cruikshank did when they changed his scholarship money, but that was a calculated gamble by the staff. They must have been willing to lose him if he balked.
    The way I look at it, if you sign an NLI and then ask to be released from it, you changed your mind. Whether it was a test score or playing time or scholarship money, something happened. The fact remains that 4 players walked away this year for one reason or another... and that doesn't look good from the outside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DPlaya View Post
    Ranta's a big loss up front this year, no doubt. I have no idea how the process works of getting them in and if it is a hockey staff issue or academic staff issue.

    Next year is the big influx of forward talent. Turcotte and Caufield are the big headliners, but guys like Lindmark and De St. Phalle are great players as well. Next year is the first year the staff will have had a big chance to put their stamp on forward recruits because of the forward pipeline that already existed when they got here, so while I hate being patient I'm telling myself I have to be patient.

    The staff has pulled the team out of the basement but it takes time to turn an established team around. It might be easier to start from scratch (Penn State) and have success than undo a bunch of mistakes that are locked in for years (UW) and have success when you think about it realistically.
    I agree on the talent coming in. Turcotte and Caufield are big time headliners but I really love Lindmark's game. He's been buried doing the dirty work behind the superstars on team USA but I really think he's going to be another special player here.

    I'm not 100% with you on the established team thing. New coaches are at liberty to ditch anyone they want and replace any recruits not on NLI's. The main guy we ditched was #1 in the country in assists last year on a bit above average team. Now maybe getting dumped shook Rocky up and it was what spurred him to turn it around, or maybe he just needed to mature a bit more physically, but in any case, it doesn't look like a good decision now. Oz got greedy and signed the Krygiers in lieu of F's when everyone knew there wasn't ice time for them. Cruikshank was ditched and probably some other F we could have landed and who'll have 10 NCAA goals this year. Other Big Names are elsewhere. Now this Ranta deal. We were promised all the best players would be lining up to play here. "Austin Matthews would have been here if I was the coach!" Well, Massimo Rizzo is going to Nodak and Oliver Wahlstrom is at BC.

    I love Tony, and Oz, and Stroby and they've landed some great guys, but they gotta quit making mistakes, starting today.
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    Nothing matters.

    Same old story.

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    Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. IV - It's all coming together

    Ok the kid can't speak English, it happens. What I want to know is how do you let the kid out of his NLI and he then walks across the bridge to MN???? You're doing him a huge favor by letting him out of it, would it be that hard to say stay the crap out of the Big Ten? And where did they come up with that scholarship money at this point in the game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronny Wolf View Post
    Ok the kid can't speak English, it happens. What I want to know is how do you let the kid out of his NLI and he then walks across the bridge to MN???? You're doing him a huge favor by letting him out of it, would it be that hard to say stay the crap out of the Big Ten? And where did they come up with that scholarship money at this point in the game?
    Your really not doing him much of a favor, just not being a dick about it. As soon as Admissions informs him in writing he's not admitted, his NLI disappears. So this week or next he's gone anyway.

    My understanding is Connor Hurley will not be on the goofs roster after sitting a year to transfer from Notre Dame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExileOnDaytonStreet View Post
    Since I was in the "bash the staff decisions" mode, I'm reminded that Kohen Olichefski had 11 pts as Freshman in a limited role behind all the stud F's at DU; Jack Becker had 8g 7a, murdered us, and played a big role for the Blue Weasels as a Frosh; Max Gildon had 23 pts from the Blue line for a sub par New Hampshire as a frosh; and Trenton Bliss exploded for 55 points (tied for 9th) in the USHL last year and is headed to Tech. All commits that this staff turned down or couldn't hold on to. Can't be right on everybody and time will tell, but be right a lot more then you're wrong.
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    UW has higher academic standards than a lot of places...it has come into play in football and other sports as well as hockey as far as not being able to recruit certain players and not being able to get certain recruits in. It's not going to change and the coaches clearly need to figure it out. Tony obviously does not have experience with these things so it is more on the Assistants and/or Academic Staff to troubleshoot these items ahead of time.

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    Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. IV - It's all coming together

    [QUOTE=Wisko McBadgerton;6691022]Your really not doing him much of a favor, just not being a dick about it. As soon as Admissions informs him in writing he's not admitted, his NLI disappears. So this week or next he's gone anyway.


    Thanks for the clarification

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wisko McBadgerton View Post
    My understanding is Connor Hurley will not be on the goofs roster after sitting a year to transfer from Notre Dame.
    That is correct, and this is what opened up the spot for Ranta.
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    Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. IV - It's all coming together

    Any idea why Hurley is not going to be on the Minnesota roster?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DPlaya View Post
    Any idea why Hurley is not going to be on the Minnesota roster?
    There's rumors, but I don't think anybody knows for sure. He wasn't at the Sabres development camp this summer, I don't think. Maybe he's just done.
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    John Prokop is a defenseman out of Wausau West, and will be playing for Omaha in the USHL this season. He was just named to the the All American Prospects Game and is uncommitted. I'm a bit surprised UW has not taken an interest. Perhaps because there is/was no room...

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