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    So there was this nugget in the Boston Globe this week concerning Adam Fox and his 'decision'.

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/c...oNK/story.html

    My read? Adam is still thinking about leaving and the fact that he is calling Vesey and Ryan Donato says that he wants to get a better read on the pros and cons of jumping ship. I'd like to be a fly on the wall when he calls Ryan. His pro career isn't off to a dazzling start. I'm guessing that both Vesey and Donato will counsel Adam to consider such things as playing time, coaching staff, team stability and if the team is in rebuilding mode vs 'win now'. Along with the fact that Adam can be a free agent if he stays at Harvard and finishes his career. Carolina is giving holy heck to the Caps so far although to bring Adam in at this point might upset the chemistry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by H60Hockey View Post
    Adam Fox along with Nathan Krusko and John Marino were named captains of the 2019-2020 Harvard Men's Hockey team.
    They included Adam as a way to get him to stay. The team did something similar with Lane MacDonald after the '88 Olympics because the Hartford Whalers (now the Hurricanes) wanted Lane to jump ship. Not to say that Adam doesn't deserve the honor of being a tri-captain. he does. But it is just so obvious that they are saying they want him to stay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skate79 View Post
    So there was this nugget in the Boston Globe this week concerning Adam Fox and his 'decision'.

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/c...oNK/story.html

    My read? Adam is still thinking about leaving and the fact that he is calling Vesey and Ryan Donato says that he wants to get a better read on the pros and cons of jumping ship. I'd like to be a fly on the wall when he calls Ryan. His pro career isn't off to a dazzling start. I'm guessing that both Vesey and Donato will counsel Adam to consider such things as playing time, coaching staff, team stability and if the team is in rebuilding mode vs 'win now'. Along with the fact that Adam can be a free agent if he stays at Harvard and finishes his career. Carolina is giving holy heck to the Caps so far although to bring Adam in at this point might upset the chemistry.
    Well 2 things here:

    1) I would bet one thing you left out of the things Fox is considering is money, and how jumping now would potentially impact him as opposed to waiting it out and playing the FA game in a year. That absolutely has to be part of the equation and honestly I believe it's probably a bigger factor than playing time, coaching staff, team stability, rebuilding etc. Clearly he's not going to develop a ton more at the collegiate level no matter how much he plays, since he's quite frankly playing against opponents where the vast majority aren't as good as he is. If he stays at Harvard, my guess is that it's due to having a better financial outcome in a year than what he's able to get right now--from the Canes or a potential trade suitor.

    2) I don't think we'll see Fox with Carolina in this postseason, but after seeing how Makar fit in with the Avs, well....if Fox could have even 1/2 of the impact, he's not going to disrupt the chemistry. I think it's probably moot, though, as it doesn't appear that Fox is in any hurry to play with Carolina, now or ever.

    Won't be surprised if he's playing at Bright-Landry next year or in the NHL. Both remain very plausible possibilities.
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    Well 2 things here:

    1) I would bet one thing you left out of the things Fox is considering is money, and how jumping now would potentially impact him as opposed to waiting it out and playing the FA game in a year. That absolutely has to be part of the equation and honestly I believe it's probably a bigger factor than playing time, coaching staff, team stability, rebuilding etc. Clearly he's not going to develop a ton more at the collegiate level no matter how much he plays, since he's quite frankly playing against opponents where the vast majority aren't as good as he is. If he stays at Harvard, my guess is that it's due to having a better financial outcome in a year than what he's able to get right now--from the Canes or a potential trade suitor.
    If you check the next to last sentence of my post, I mention that Adam has a chance at pure free agency if he stays and finishes his career at Harvard. Implicit in my statement is the fact that he can negotiate with multiple suitors thereby increasing his $$$ without burning a year of his entry level deal should he sign with Carolina now.

    2) I don't think we'll see Fox with Carolina in this postseason, but after seeing how Makar fit in with the Avs, well....if Fox could have even 1/2 of the impact, he's not going to disrupt the chemistry. I think it's probably moot, though, as it doesn't appear that Fox is in any hurry to play with Carolina, now or ever.

    Won't be surprised if he's playing at Bright-Landry next year or in the NHL. Both remain very plausible possibilities.
    You'd be surprised at how important chemistry is at this time of year. Adam would be replacing one of three established right shot D that has Carolina playing the Caps tough. Also, Makar went to the NCAA tournament final and then two days later, the Avs whereas Adam finished up three weeks ago. Would be hard for him to step in at this point.

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    Re: Harvard Crimson 2018-2019 All Things Bright and Beautiful

    NY Rangers have acquired Adam Fox from the Carolina Hurricanes in exchange for the Rangers 2019 second round pick and a conditional 3rd round pick in the 2020 NHL draft. There is no indication if he will or will not stay at Harvard to finish his senior year.

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    Re: Harvard Crimson 2018-2019 All Things Bright and Beautiful

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    NY Rangers have acquired Adam Fox from the Carolina Hurricanes in exchange for the Rangers 2019 second round pick and a conditional 3rd round pick in the 2020 NHL draft. There is no indication if he will or will not stay at Harvard to finish his senior year.
    I don't think the Rangers are making this move now for him to stay at Harvard another season when they could have just signed him as a free agent the following year. This tells me both the NYR and Fox want each other now.
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    I don't think the Rangers are making this move now for him to stay at Harvard another season when they could have just signed him as a free agent the following year. This tells me both the NYR and Fox want each other now.
    Add that Fox telegraphed that he was available immediately by specifically telling Carolina to trade his *** or lose him. If the plan was to hold out then his trade value was zero.
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    Quote Originally Posted by H60Hockey View Post
    NY Rangers have acquired Adam Fox from the Carolina Hurricanes in exchange for the Rangers 2019 second round pick and a conditional 3rd round pick in the 2020 NHL draft. There is no indication if he will or will not stay at Harvard to finish his senior year.
    Hes as good as gone. Fox will not be back at Harvard.

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    Hes as good as gone. Fox will not be back at Harvard.
    Gone according to USCHO.
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    Re: Harvard Crimson 2018-2019 All Things Bright and Beautiful

    NY Rangers announce Adam Fox has signed an entry-level contract and will not return to Cambridge. Oh well...

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    Re: Harvard Crimson 2018-2019 All Things Bright and Beautiful

    It shouldn't come as a surprise that he chose to leave. He knew he wanted to suit up for the Rangers and with their rebuilding, he figures to get some decent ice time especially on the PP. I don't begrudge his decision but the program just took a major hit.

    The fallout from this might also have implications for recruiting down the road. Admissions doesn't like admitting athletes who jump ship especially from one particular program. With Donato and Fox in back to back years and Rathbone apparently eyeing the NHL, it will be harder to recruit against the schools that don't care if their kids leave early (Ferraro left UMass to sign with the Sharks). If Adam had stayed, it would have made a statement and helped the staff continue to recruit NHL caliber players who can handle the academics.

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    Re: Harvard Crimson 2018-2019 All Things Bright and Beautiful

    If a kid's academics are in order to get into Harvard in the first place I don't see how anything will change. Someone in admissions isn't going to be a hockey savant who can predict when these kids will leave Harvard. Plus, both Donato and Fox did a lot for Harvard hockey. With both playing three years they would be foolish not to complete their degree. I don't see how this is a negative for Harvard.

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