That's not the same issue and you know it.Originally Posted by SJHovey
You're smart enough to understand the difference between never having registered and having an otherwise valid registration rescinded with little or no notice. You're just being maliciously obtuse at this point.
That's not the same issue and you know it.
I get your take on this but disagree. This is akin to if you move and need to re-register to vote, but didn't think to do so. You didn't lose your right to vote. You forgot to register. Two different things.
So at the end of the day I agree that this is a voter suppression tactic that you wouldn't get if Dems were in power, but by the same token its pretty easy to avoid all this by voting. The fact that they sat out the last several elections when the choices between Dems and Republicans in most races is crystal clear makes me have no sympathy for them. Maybe if people like this take it in the shorts enough they'll wake up and start participating again.
Legally drunk???? If its "legal", what's the ------- problem?!? - George Carlin
Ever notice how everybody who drives slower than you is an idiot, and everybody who drives faster is a maniac? - George Carlin
"I've never seen so much reason and bullsh*t contained in ONE MAN."
No buts. Voter suppression is antithetical to the American ideals we all supposedly believe in. You don't get to victim blame people for being victims.
It is not akin to it because when you move...you know you need to re-register.
With this...you may not be told (or be told years before) and then find out when you get there...and have no way to fix it in most places.
It's voter suppression legalized by the court...that's a problem.
I can and I will. People need to wake the fuk up and vote Democratic or they get what they deserve. I'm not sure what part of that concept people can't understand. I feel no more sympathy for these people than some numbnuts who voted Trump and now saw his health insurance premiums skyrocket or who can't get expanded Medicaid because he voted for a sh !thead like Scott Walker or Paul LePage. You get who you vote for, or who you choose to allow to be elected by sitting on the sidelines.
Legally drunk???? If its "legal", what's the ------- problem?!? - George Carlin
Ever notice how everybody who drives slower than you is an idiot, and everybody who drives faster is a maniac? - George Carlin
"I've never seen so much reason and bullsh*t contained in ONE MAN."
Exactly, he's also ignoring literally every study that shows the impact of these voter suppression efforts (or he cynically wants that to happen).
Oh stop already.
Voter suppression was American before America existed.
Who voted from day 1?
This revisionist stuff is funny
"Ideals" and "history" are actually different words.Oh stop already.
Voter suppression was American before America existed.
Who voted from day 1?
This revisionist stuff is funny
I have no issue if they make same day registration required. It should be easy as heck to re-register.
If the goal were truly to make the voter rolls as accurate as possible as close to an election as possible, this would be the obvious solution. But that's not the goal. And SJ knows this.
I like same day registration and I definitely think states should go to it.
That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.
So if OH doesn't switch to same day registration you're against this or....?
how can there be ideals without a basis? if there is not history to base this, then it is almost fantasyland. a fairy tale even.
a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.
For ideals to exist they must have been lived up to at some point? I don't know, that seems like a non sequitur to me.
one can have dreams... but they again can't be something you wistfully pine for and complain when they don't magically appear. also it's hard to attach "we" and "our" as well. because again, they have yet to be.
a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.
Nobody's complaining that they don't magically appear. We are complaining that people who pretend to believe in American ideals actively prevent progress from being made toward them (and in fact push us further away).one can have dreams... but they again can't be something you wistfully pine for and complain when they don't magically appear. also it's hard to attach "we" and "our" as well. because again, they have yet to be.
Of course not.
Look, same day voter registration is basically election day with training wheels. Most of us manage quite nicely without them, but there are always those few.
I personally favor same day registration because heaven knows there is a sizable percentage of the electorate whose ability to function in society barely rises above the level of bean dip. But just because Ohio decides they don't want to be so paternalistic doesn't mean I'm going to criticize them for it.
That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.
I spend most of my time lurking in the Cafe, thought as an Ohio guy I'd add one tidbit to the mix that hasn't been discussed, that being the rules aren't being applied evenly across the state. Purging of the roles in counties with lots of guys named Billy Ray Jim Bob has not been happening with equal frequency as in counties with lots of people with the last name of Jackson. With this law now codified, the party in power (Republican or Democrat) has a weapon to selectively pick and choose who gets to vote. To me, THAT's the issue, not whether some dotard skipped out on voting in the past 3 elections.
Back to the sidelines.
No, in fact you're cheering them on for making voting harder.
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