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  • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    Yes.

    Next?
    Well......

    @NPR: JUST IN: The brains of dead pigs have been somewhat revived by scientists hours after the animals were killed in a slaughterhouse.
    https://n.pr/2XkYTNj
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      Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
      Dunno...both you and I appear to have humanism in common although I would argue the detailed moral platform of Chrisitanity takes the broad concept much further.
      Many authors have expounded how humanism can spring up alongside atheism. I recommend this for starters. (Everybody should read it anyway. It's a wonderful essay.) I suppose it's possible that you literally do not know that you are talking nonsense.

      Humanism as a movement was grounded in the rediscovery of classical culture during the Renaissance -- a classical culture that predated Christianity by four centuries, had almost no contact with Mosaic culture, and was remarkable in being relatively free of supernatural superstitions, particularly in its fullest development. Western humanism is so far from being grounded in theism in general or Christianity in particular that indeed it grew up in large part in defiance of Christianity's brutality and pretensions to being the single path towards human fulfillment. I won't play your "yay team!" game and claim that humanism is grounded in atheism because I believe humanism can grow alongside any type of faith or none at all -- they are not relevant to each other -- but if I did I'd have more evidence on my side than do you.

      Please stick to talking about religion. When you talk about atheism you embarrass yourself.
      Last edited by Kepler; 04-17-2019, 03:44 PM.
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        Originally posted by joecct View Post
        Well......

        @NPR: JUST IN: The brains of dead pigs have been somewhat revived by scientists hours after the animals were killed in a slaughterhouse.
        https://n.pr/2XkYTNj
        Great. Zombie pigs. That's all this world needs.
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          Originally posted by joecct View Post
          Well......

          @NPR: JUST IN: The brains of dead pigs have been somewhat revived by scientists hours after the animals were killed in a slaughterhouse.
          https://n.pr/2XkYTNj
          Hmm....awfully close to Easter. These pigs didn't happen to be born in a manger, did they?

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            Originally posted by DisplacedCornellian View Post
            Hmm....awfully close to Easter. These pigs didn't happen to be born in a manger, did they?
            That would really stick it to the Jews and Muzzies.
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              Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
              Great. Zombie pigs. That's all this world needs.
              It's clearly the t-Virus.
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              • Re: Religion Thread: We Could Say a Prayer

                Miracle Max is back in business!!
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                  Originally posted by joecct View Post
                  Miracle Max is back in business!!
                  To blave.
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                  • Re: Religion Thread: We Could Say a Prayer

                    Originally posted by joecct View Post
                    Interesting concept. Are you truly dead if you're brain dead?

                    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/po...-actually-dead

                    For the record, I am an organ donor.
                    FWIW:
                    Legally, brain dead = dead. Most hospitals have "Brain Death Protocols" that are very specific. If the criteria for brain death is met, the patient is dead according to law ("not only merely dead, she's really most sincerely dead"). Upon being declared dead, (at least in my state) following the wishes of the family is no longer required. IOW, if the family demands the patient remain on life support, the physician can remove said support. (Mind you, this type of scenario is never that black and white but the law is). However, organs could not be harvested without family approval.
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                    • Re: Religion Thread: We Could Say a Prayer

                      Suffered under Pontius Pilate
                      Was crucified, dead, and buried
                      On the third day, he rose again
                      Where he sits at the right hand of God the Father
                      From there he shall come to judge the living and the dead
                      -Nicene Creed

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                        Church, instead of promoting Easter celebration, clears about $2.2 million in medical debt for 1,600 people.

                        But they did it quietly, instead of the left hand informing the right hand of what it was doing.
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                        • Re: Religion Thread: We Could Say a Prayer

                          Originally posted by MissThundercat View Post
                          Church, instead of promoting Easter celebration, clears about $2.2 million in medical debt for 1,600 people.

                          But they did it quietly, instead of the left hand informing the right hand of what it was doing.
                          THis was heartwarming. As I read the Pastor asked us to think of what it must be like to find out their debt was forgiven. I have taken care of people like that. They would have been beside themselves with joy and relief.
                          Then I think to myself~ What kind of warped world do we live in where people can be bankrupted from accessing medical care? That is really ef fed up and it makes me sad these people got care but left themselves worse off than when they started. This hasn't improved in decades

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                            Originally posted by busterman62 View Post
                            FWIW:
                            Legally, brain dead = dead. Most hospitals have "Brain Death Protocols" that are very specific. If the criteria for brain death is met, the patient is dead according to law ("not only merely dead, she's really most sincerely dead"). Upon being declared dead, (at least in my state) following the wishes of the family is no longer required. IOW, if the family demands the patient remain on life support, the physician can remove said support. (Mind you, this type of scenario is never that black and white but the law is). However, organs could not be harvested without family approval.
                            Exactly this. +1

                            Having direct experience with this from the physician standpoint, I am happy to answer any questions. The article in question has little to do with the concept of brain death in humans.
                            In the immortal words of Jean Paul Sartre, 'Au revoir, gopher'.

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                              Imagine that, a LifeSiteNews article that doesn't understand medical science...

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                                Some good religious news.

                                the Satanic Temple has officially been granted tax-exempt status by the IRS
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