Having said that I dont by the "beautiful Newport" argument either. A...these are 20 year old men.... beautiful sunsets, nice houses and artistic buildings are the last thing on their minds. Newport didn't just happen two years ago since Salve has been around (and dormant) for decades.
I DO think some $$$ has influenced a couple players, but I also think there is more beyond the scope of grants/aides going on...meaning the coach and more so the Universitys push to put a great program on the ice.
If they were stacked with Canadian players I'd agree, but they're not. I'd say they are more on par with a team out of Michigan. Now did they promise their incoming players they'd be going DI in a couple years like Adr....I mean yea, Salve has come a long ways....
Does not mean they are not relevant....
You're not putting Plattsburgh in the same breath as St.Norbert, Oswego, Adrian, UWSP, and Norwich....maybe even as far as Trinity...sorry. This isn't the late 90's to early 2000's where Plattsburgh went to 5 Final Four's in 7 years. Oswego has easily taken over that spot, as has Geneseo. If Plattsburgh is "relevant" you might as well add Utica, Hobart, Babson, UMB, and Williams in there too. Just because Plattsburgh has won the SUNYAC 5 times, it didn't mean they were a National Contender each year. The same can't be said for a team like St.Norbert, Adrian, UWSP, Oswego ect ect who were considered the favorites the majority of those years. Did Plattsburgh have a few good years? Sure. But they are not the powerhouse they were years ago. The years when it was EXPECTED to be in the Final Four, not just a "happy to be here". 2 Final Four's in the past 11 years... TWO regular season titles in the past 9 years....
If you want to put Plattsburgh in the "good" teams over the past decade? Sure....but they're not on the level of the mentioned above...sorry. Some people can't get over the fact Plattsburgh isn't the same Plattsburgh as years past, but thinking they are in the same mention of St.Norbert, Adrian, Norwich, Oswego, and others is simply laughable. Yes the SUNYAC has become better. Yes Plattsburgh has one of the best DIII coaches around. While they may not be the Dallas Cowboys (1996) or Montreal Canadiens (1993) as far as Championship appearances go (2010, 2008)....
In the past 8 seasons Final Four Appearances
St.Norbert - 6
Norwich - 4
UWSP - 4
Oswego - 4
Adrian - 3
Trinity - 2
Geneseo - 2
Amherst - 2
UWEC - 1
Salve - 1
Colby - 1
UMB - 1
Utica - 1
13 different teams have made it to the final weekend.....Plattsburgh has not been one of them...so yes, to some...in order to be relevant, one should probably make it to the final weekend at least once in the past 8 years.....
Never did I say they were in the same breath as teams such as St. Norbert or Norwich but to call a team that has averaged 19 wins for the past 10 years not relevant is crazy. Plattsburgh may not be title contenders or have been in the final four in the past 8 years but does that make them less relevant then a team like Colby or the others that have made 1 or 2 final fours in 8 years. How many teams in D3 can say that they have made the NCAA tournament 5x in the past 10 years regardless or a AQ or not, my guess is not to many. Your right this is not the same Plattsburgh team of the 90's early 2000's but have you stopped to ask yourself why other teams maintain the same level of play as they did back in the early 90's early 2000's? Teams have been able to maintain their level of play or close to it where Plattsburgh's has dropped of dramatically. Plattsburgh is heading down the same road as Middlebury did after they won so many championships which is the road to not being relevant. Plattsburgh hasn't had a 100 career point player since Satim and Clarke and haven't had a dominate goalie since Hince. Emery was once on of the best in D3 but he, like Plattsburgh, has fallen down the list.
Penn State Class of '95
Plattsburgh State Class of '99
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Augsburg - 3 of the last 3
Geneseo - 3 of the last 6 (2 Final Fours)
Hobart - 5 of the last 10 (1 Final Four)
Norwich - 7 of the last 10 (5 Final Fours)
Oswego - 7 of the last 9 (5 Final Fours)
St.Norbert - 8 of the last 9 (7 Final Fours , 4 Championships)
St.Thomas - 3 of the last 9
Trinity - 3 of the last 4 (2 Final Fours, 1 Championship)
UWSP - 5 of the last 5 (4 Final Fours, 1 Championship)
Plattsburgh - 4 of the last 8 (0 Final Four, Record of 0-4-0 GF:5 GA:15)
So in short we can say Plattsburgh was relevant (as far as contender goes) some 10 years ago now....I think that's all anyone was trying to say from point #1 on.... it's been A WHILE....
Fact of the matter is, its been a LONG while since Plattsburgh has won a meaningful game post conference play. For a team that once prided itself on winning in the post season (NCAA time), it has settled for SUNYAC underdog (beat Oswego) titles as the highlight to a season. If Plattsburgh was as relevant as some want to believe, they wouldn't be losing out on recruits to start up programs or cellar dweller conference foes.
Rumor has it location was a big factor as well as a lot of players who knew each other and wanted to play with each other. I believe there was a concerted effort to put together a group that knew each other and wanted to play with one another. Expect another 5-6 good players coming in this year. JUST SAYING
I have been very impressed with Salve's recruiting in the NAHL which appears to be a trend for eastern schools. With the Northeast Generals in Attleboro it should be easy for D3 schools to check out the NAHL talent. But I would give 100% of the credit to the coach who has convinced players to come east and play in a high school rink a few miles away. And maybe Salve is offering better financial packages then temas like Norwich and the SUNY schools looking for the same players?
2009-2010 Last Person Standing winner
2009-2010 Interlock LPS winner
Coach: Weíd like you to consider coming to Salve Regina
Recruit: Salve what?
Recruit: Isnít that a Catholic school?
Coach: Yes, but the young women in the convent training program are very attractive.
Recruit: Wonderful, but Iím not Catholic, Iím __________________
Coach: No worries Ö Salve accepts all faiths, even no faith.
Recruit: Super. Isnít Salve a member of the old ECAC/NE, historically the worst conference in D3?
Coach: Yes, but the MASCAC is now much worse than the NE ever was, and the newly formed teams are raising the profile of the league
Recruit: Super. Whatís the campus like?
Coach: Weíre right near the ocean in beautiful Rhode Island
Recruit: How many weeks during the school year is the ocean swimmable?
Coach: 6, unless youíre from Canada, then itís 26
Recruit: Havenít there been some recent devastating Noríeasters that effectively shut down the city?
Coach: Yes, but only a few, plus I modify practices on those days to weight (snow) lifting
Recruit: Is the rink on campus?
Coach: No, but itís only 10 short miles from campus, with a nice bike trail between campus and rink
Recruit: Perfect. When are practices typically scheduled?
Coach: We have to work around the Abbeyís modified girlsí teams, so either 5 AM or 11 PM.
Recruit: Super, So I would need a car to get back and forth from practice?
Coach: No, the University owns a 1947 International School Bus for commuting. By any chance, do you have a Commercial Drivers License?
Recruit: No, but thatís a sweet ride! What do tuition, room, board and books run each year?
Coach: Only around $60K/year, but 98% of our students receive aid
Recruit: How much debt can I expect to have at the end of four years?
Coach: Only $100K, but we do offer debt counseling
Recruit: Super! What kind of grades do I need to have?
Coach: Our acceptance rate is over 70%, youíd need to be a bumbling idiot NOT to get accepted
Recruit: Great! What type of crowds does the team get?
Coach: There have been as many as 400, but youíll get to play with your friends
Recruit: Great! But if I go to school in my home state, Iíll have only about half as much debt
Coach: Thatís true, but here you can play with your friends
Recruit: Super! Thatís whatís most important to me. Sign me up today.
From my experience Ö It has always been about the money, it is currently about the money, it will always be about the money, it has never not been about the money, and it will never not be about the money.
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