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  • Re: MLB 2018.1: ...And The Nationals Will Not Make It Out of the First Round

    Originally posted by joecct View Post
    Let's get that out of the way before seats start to fill.
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    • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
      The Mets just batted out of order. In the top of the first inning.
      Remember when the Mets thought they were going to take over NYC? Good times.

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      • Re: MLB 2018.1: ...And The Nationals Will Not Make It Out of the First Round

        Originally posted by hockeyplayer1015 View Post
        Remember when the Mets thought they were going to take over NYC? Good times.
        I'll have you know we owned NYC from 1969 through 1973 and from 1985 through 1990.

        Otherwise... not so much.
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        • Re: MLB 2018.1: ...And The Nationals Will Not Make It Out of the First Round

          I'm not sure you're going to believe this, but the Mets may have just batted out of order in the second inning.
          Last edited by Kepler; 05-09-2018, 11:57 AM.
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          • Re: MLB 2018.1: ...And The Nationals Will Not Make It Out of the First Round

            We didn’t even do that in Little League.
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            • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
              I'm not sure you're going to believe this, but the Mets may have just batted out of order in the second inning.
              Wait.. what?
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              • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                I'll have you know we owned NYC from 1969 through 1973 and from 1985 through 1990.

                Otherwise... not so much.
                But the TV on WOR was better than the Yanquis on WPIX.
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                • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                  I'll have you know we owned NYC from 1969 through 1973 and from 1985 through 1990.

                  Otherwise... not so much.
                  A blind squirrel finds a nut once in his lifetime. Consider yourself lucky that they did it twice!

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                  • Re: MLB 2018.1: ...And The Nationals Will Not Make It Out of the First Round

                    Originally posted by MavHockey14 View Post
                    Wait.. what?
                    It turns out we didn't bat out of order the second time. But it was confusing.

                    The lineup handed to the Cincy manager had 1. Nimmo, 2. Cabrera, 3. Flores, 4. Bruce.

                    The Mets batted 1. Nimmo, 2. Flores, 3. Cabrera, 4. Bruce. Nimmo struck out; Flores struck out; Cabrera doubled. Bruce strode to the plate, the Cincy manager protested, the out was called, ending the inning. OK, so who leads off the second?

                    Then the Mets batted in the second inning. They led off with 5. Gonzalez, who got a hit, and the Cincy manager protested again. At the time I thought he was correct and we should have started the inning with 4. Bruce. However, it turns out that is not how the rule works.

                    The rule works thusly: when the manager protested, it is that Bruce has batted out of order (on the basis of the lineup card given to the Cincy manager) by batting after Cabrera. Bruce should have batted after Flores. Therefore, Bruce is out. The Cincy manager could have protested when Flores strode to the plate to bat, but he waited to see what would happen. That gave him two "bites at the apple" for batting out of order because the Mets had transposed. Had the Mets realized the problem and just batted Bruce after Flores, skipping Cabrera totally, then Cincy would have missed their chance to protest (costing them nothing since Flores had made an out).

                    In addition, the rule also specifies that Cabrera's AB is erased as if it never happened.

                    So the Mets did not screw up the second time, the Cincy manager was just unaware of the full rule. He probably thought the "batting out of order" out had been applied to Cabrera, not Bruce.
                    Last edited by Kepler; 05-09-2018, 12:40 PM.
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                    • Re: MLB 2018.1: ...And The Nationals Will Not Make It Out of the First Round

                      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                      It turns out we didn't bat out of order the second time. But it was confusing.

                      The lineup handed to the Cincy manager had 1. Nimmo, 2. Cabrera, 3. Flores, 4. Bruce.

                      The Mets batted 1. Nimmo, 2. Flores, 3. Cabrera, 4. Bruce. Nimmo struck out; Flores struck out; Cabrera doubled. Bruce strode to the plate, the Cincy manager protested, the out was called, ending the inning. OK, so who leads off the second?

                      Then the Mets batted in the second inning. They led off with 5. Gonzalez, who got a hit, and the Cincy manager protested again. At the time I thought he was correct and we should have started the inning with 4. Bruce. However, it turns out that is not how the rule works.

                      The rule works thusly: when the manager protested, it is that Bruce has batted out of order (on the basis of the lineup card given to the Cincy manager) by batting after Cabrera. Bruce should have batted after Flores. Therefore, Bruce is out. The Cincy manager could have protested when Flores strode to the plate to bat, but he waited to see what would happen. That gave him two "bites at the apple" for batting out of order because the Mets had transposed. Had the Mets realized the problem and just batted Bruce after Flores, skipping Cabrera totally, then Cincy would have missed their chance to protest (costing them nothing since Flores had made an out).

                      In addition, the rule also specifies that Cabrera's AB is erased as if it never happened.

                      So the Mets did not screw up the second time, the Cincy manager was just unaware of the full rule. He probably thought the "batting out of order" out had been applied to Cabrera, not Bruce.
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                      • Re: MLB 2018.1: ...And The Nationals Will Not Make It Out of the First Round

                        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                        I'm not sure you're going to believe this, but the Mets may have just batted out of order in the second inning.
                        With a runner in scoring position. Don't forget that. That's what makes it extra Metsy.

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                        • Re: MLB 2018.1: ...And The Nationals Will Not Make It Out of the First Round

                          Originally posted by French Rage View Post
                          With a runner in scoring position. Don't forget that. That's what makes it extra Metsy.
                          Well... not really. We only achieved the runner in scoring position by batting out of order. Remember, the transposition NCFB --> NFCB causes us to bat out of order three times. First when Flores batted after Nimmo (should have been Cabrera). Second when Cabrera batted after Flores (should have been Bruce). Third when Bruce batted after Cabrera (should have been Flores). Bruce is called out for batting out of order. Bruce's PA (taken by Cabrera) is erased. So we never had a man in scoring position under any circumstances.

                          Let's say Flores had gotten a hit. Then when Cabrera had approached the plate Cincy would have protested. Cabrera would have been called out for batting after Nimmo. Cabrera's actual PA, taken by Flores, would have been erased. Bruce would have come up with two outs. Interestingly, in that situation Bruce is OK to bat because he is considered to be batting after "the legitimate batter" Flores who is considered never to have batted because Cabrera stole his spot. This despite the fact that Flores actually did something and Cabrera did nothing.

                          I like the rule and I'm pretty sure it makes sense, it's just really difficult at first.
                          Last edited by Kepler; 05-09-2018, 02:36 PM.
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                            All you need now is failure to touch a base.
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                            • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                              The Mets just batted out of order. In the top of the first inning.
                              Same old MTES.
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                                Giants hitters strike out 55 times in a 4 game sweep by the Phillies.
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