I wonder if Providence has a candidate in mind, maybe someone who applied at Brown? The timing is strange as Providence had their best record since 2011 this year.
Last edited by Sean Pickett; 05-04-2018 at 10:52 PM.
Deraney worked hard to bring great facilities to the womenís program and helped many players become leaders. Thanks for 19 years of effort.
On the flip side of it, I wonder if applicants who were willing to take on the challenge of Brown, would also be interested in Providence.
Providence would be challenging in a different way, in that the new coach will be inheriting a program coming off a winning season, so expectations for immediate success would presumably be higher. Getting and staying to middle of the pack in the ECAC is probably a similar challenge to getting and staying in the middle of pack of HE. From the perspective of a Brown or Providence, winning either league is a great challenge, no difference there.
Last edited by Lindsay; 05-05-2018 at 11:28 AM.
- Academics - the available pool of players for Brown is dramatically smaller than the available pool of players for Providence based on admissions requirements.
- School Interest - Brown could care less whether their women's hockey team has any success (obviously) as long as they don't embarrass the school itself (getting close with Digit Murphy and again currently). Brown in general doesn't place a high emphasis on their sports team success -- except for football and basketball because they generate alum contributions. Providence does care about the success of all of their athletic programs and will bend the academic requirements to get players in. Deraney had a lot of opportunity and support to get high quality players to Providence he just generally wasn't successful in the recent past. The new Providence coach will get support and funding to be successful, the Brown coach will be limited in that support.
Saw an article where Brian Idalski is going to be the new Girls Hockey Director and Coach at Culver Academy. That is good news for Culver. Hopefully, for them, he will stay for a while.
As for getting to the middle of the ECAC, if Brown can beat three Ivies and RPI and Union, they are middle of the pack. Thatís not an unrealistic bar, when you consider other programs have down years etc. Hopefully the new coach can work on administration to get the support needed to be better than a perennial bottom dweller in a league. For all the excuses we make for the Ivies, they have a lot going for them and should be better than what Brown has been for the last very long while.
Edit: I know coaching has been a mess at Brown for a long time. With a good coach who can work on administration for support, as well as coach, Brown should be better than what theyíve been. I donít see why the past has to dictate the future.
Last edited by Lindsay; 05-08-2018 at 09:11 AM.
Providence right now is the opposite end of the spectrum. They have as noted emphasized success. Over the past 5-10 years they have replaced many coaches, starting with the big menís sports and recently to revive a long dormant womenís basketball program. In one way I suspect Deraneyís downfall was in part due to being well paid compared to many of his contemporaries, yes also longevity, but also due to PCís desire to win.
You wondered about Brownís coaching candidates applying to PC. Iím sure some will wishfully apply. However recent track record says the AD fishes in an entirely different pond. Division 1 head coaching and winning there have been a prerequisite in his recent searches. They already budget in an above average pay. Money talksóthe women b-ball Coach was brought on after 2 decades at St Bonaventure, Leaman was pulled away from a team set up for long term success at Union (the basis of a national champion was in place). To make this move I would venture a guess they are confident they can lure a coach with a winning track record away from a good program. At the least several coaches are going to leverage this into nice raises at their present school
Appreciate your thoughts Cavbim. Lots to think about there and
I think both schools will be interesting to follow as a result of the changes, for the next couple years.
so...being an ECAC fan...I would love to see the standings mixup year after year (of course being a clarkson grad, we can leave them on top). But as the cost of college goes up, the value of a full scholarship goes up. This, combined with the high academic qualifications, is making it harder for all the IVY schools. There are lots of rumblings every year about how Cornell does it and all I can say is that they are the closest to the border. So what the IVYs are looking for is a smart girl who doesn't need money to go, or a smart girl who needs a lot of money (hockey is not a cheap sport so even harder). For the Canadians, i know from a reliable source that the exchange rate has also made the IVYs less attractive (again, the financial aid formula)
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