Open Wheel Racing 2018- with less winglets.

[RaceBoarder]

Re: Open Wheel Racing 2018- with less winglets.

Stuck throttle on that? (Can that happen in a "Fly by Wire" car?) That was strange in that she was carrying so much more speed than everyone...

[Russell Jaslow]

Re: Open Wheel Racing 2018- with less winglets.

Stuck throttle on that? (Can that happen in a "Fly by Wire" car?) That was strange in that she was carrying so much more speed than everyone...

She touched wheels with a car (before any of the videos picked this up), ran into the curbing which accentuated going airborne (and once airborne, nothing was slowing her down while everyone else was braking for the corner, thus the extreme speed differential by the time the various videos pick up the scene), and then flew over the car you do see in the video before going over the wall/fence. Most of this info comes from a racer.com article. The car you see slowing down all the way to driver's left is probably the one she touched wheels with.

Unless the FIA releases the onboard videos of all drivers involved, we may not know who's fault the initial wheel touching was.

[manurespreader]

Re: Open Wheel Racing 2018- with less winglets.

She touched wheels with a car (before any of the videos picked this up), ran into the curbing which accentuated going airborne (and once airborne, nothing was slowing her down while everyone else was braking for the corner, thus the extreme speed differential by the time the various videos pick up the scene), and then flew over the car you do see in the video before going over the wall/fence. Most of this info comes from a racer.com article. The car you see slowing down all the way to driver's left is probably the one she touched wheels with.

Unless the FIA releases the onboard videos of all drivers involved, we may not know who's fault the initial wheel touching was.

And she came real close to hitting that post which might have made a much different result.

[manurespreader]

Re: Open Wheel Racing 2018- with less winglets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CohuAMqJFNc

[manurespreader]

Re: Open Wheel Racing 2018- with less winglets.

Hard to say much about the first testing of the year but Stroll was 3ed fastest for Force India, and Raikkonen is 3ed from last in the Sauber.

[alfablue]

Re: Open Wheel Racing 2018- with less winglets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CohuAMqJFNc

Also, Fernando and Jimmy Johnson swapped rides on Monday- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-pAxfbZRIU

This was a 2013 McLaren, not the most recent one. But Johnson was able to get within 0.2 sec of Fernando's benchmark time set in the car. Which is just like the last two times that a cup drive swapped seats with an F1 driver- where the cup driver was much faster than anyone expected in the car- and much faster, relative, than the F1 driver was in the cup car. I really don't like watching NASCAR, but I certainly appreciate how good of drivers they are- I've done a NASCAR drive at MIS, and they balance a heavy car, with little aero, on small tires for hours at a time. Pretty amazing.

[Russell Jaslow]

Re: Open Wheel Racing 2018- with less winglets.

Hard to say much about the first testing of the year but Stroll was 3ed fastest for Force India, and Raikkonen is 3ed from last in the Sauber.

There's nothing to say. :-) They are using a mix of this year's and next year's tires, so any times are completely meaningless.

[Russell Jaslow]

Re: Open Wheel Racing 2018- with less winglets.

Also, Fernando and Jimmy Johnson swapped rides on Monday- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-pAxfbZRIU

This was a 2013 McLaren, not the most recent one. But Johnson was able to get within 0.2 sec of Fernando's benchmark time set in the car. Which is just like the last two times that a cup drive swapped seats with an F1 driver- where the cup driver was much faster than anyone expected in the car- and much faster, relative, than the F1 driver was in the cup car. I really don't like watching NASCAR, but I certainly appreciate how good of drivers they are- I've done a NASCAR drive at MIS, and they balance a heavy car, with little aero, on small tires for hours at a time. Pretty amazing.

They have to use F1 cars over x number of years old, otherwise it's considered an official test which if course is against the rules.

When Hamilton and Stewart did the exchange at Watkins Glen, the first session was damp, so each driver ended up with faster times in the other one's cars than the regular drivers of those cars. It was hysterical looking at the non-racing press hype that without any idea what really happened.

I agree with you on what NASCAR drivers have to do. Many don't realize how difficult they have it driving those cars -- overweight, no downforce to speak of, and no tires worth a darn. Plus, they get more time in their cars than perhaps any other form of racing, even endurance racing (because their schedules are short). And there's nothing like time behind the wheel.

[solovsfett]

Also, Fernando and Jimmy Johnson swapped rides on Monday- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-pAxfbZRIU

This was a 2013 McLaren, not the most recent one. But Johnson was able to get within 0.2 sec of Fernando's benchmark time set in the car. Which is just like the last two times that a cup drive swapped seats with an F1 driver- where the cup driver was much faster than anyone expected in the car- and much faster, relative, than the F1 driver was in the cup car. I really don't like watching NASCAR, but I certainly appreciate how good of drivers they are- I've done a NASCAR drive at MIS, and they balance a heavy car, with little aero, on small tires for hours at a time. Pretty amazing.

I think that’s why guys like Gurney, Mario, Stewart and AJ are legends. You can only cross over to nascar and be successful if you have dirt track experience or something similar where cars slide up the turns etc. without that experience you have Montoya, Franchitti et al.

It’s easier going from taxi cabs to cars on rails. Much easier.

Whether Johnson would find that .2 is unknown but I wouldn’t bet against it.

I hate to say all this because I really don’t care for what a i cabs but...

[manurespreader]

Re: Open Wheel Racing 2018- with less winglets.

Just FYI, but on Sundays, starting tomorrow at 9 pm on CBS sports, will be races from the SCCA runoffs this year at Sonoma. Every Sunday evening in December. FF is near the end of the month but there are some good hard top races also.

[alfablue]

Re: Open Wheel Racing 2018- with less winglets.

Just FYI, but on Sundays, starting tomorrow at 9 pm on CBS sports, will be races from the SCCA runoffs this year at Sonoma. Every Sunday evening in December. FF is near the end of the month but there are some good hard top races also.

Sweeeeet. While I know nobody, the racing is still fun to watch.

[manurespreader]

Re: Open Wheel Racing 2018- with less winglets.

Sweeeeet. While I know nobody, the racing is still fun to watch.

Anyone have any comments on Formula E?. The season starts this week.

[alfablue]

Re: Open Wheel Racing 2018- with less winglets.

Anyone have any comments on Formula E?. The season starts this week.

I struggle with it.

I've really not found myself interested enough to watch an entire race. I've seen bits and pieces, but it does not capture my attention that much.

[manurespreader]

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I struggle with it.

I've really not found myself interested enough to watch an entire race. I've seen bits and pieces, but it does not capture my attention that much.

The cars are fast and supported by big money but... they don't last an entire race, so the driver has to come in and change cars part way through. Otherwise good racing. I believe SCCA is sponsoring a Formula E series in the US but I don't know much about it.

[joecct]

The cars are fast and supported by big money but... they don't last an entire race, so the driver has to come in and change cars part way through. Otherwise good racing. I believe SCCA is sponsoring a Formula E series in the US but I don't know much about it.

I wish they would change the battery packs and not the car. The technology would filter down to the public.