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  • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

    Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
    Pompeio in town this week... hoping mookie gets to run into as he will be an around the way boy
    Keep your candied yams to yourself, please.
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    • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
      Keep your candied yams to yourself, please.
      no meeting

      someone died (or someone in the kingdom advised pomps leave the region early)
      a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

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      • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

        Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
        someone died
        In Saudi they call that "Meet the Press."
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        • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

          Huh...

          “Demolish the bridges behind you… then there is no choice but to build again.”

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          • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

            Trump declared he considers the Venezuelan opposition their new president. Via tweet of course.
            Current Venezuelan president ordered all US diplomats out within 72 hours

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            • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

              Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
              Trump declared he considers the Venezuelan opposition their new president. Via tweet of course.
              Current Venezuelan president ordered all US diplomats out within 72 hours
              Good plan.
              **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

              Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
              Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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              • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

                Bolton hates the INF and Dumpy listens to the last guy he hears.

                As recently as this summer, Jon Huntsman, the U.S. ambassador to Russia, was still describing the INF to reporters as “probably the most successful treaty in [the] history of arms control.”

                What’s changed is that National-Security Adviser John Bolton now appears to have “the president’s ear on this issue,” Kingston Reif, the director of disarmament and threat-reduction policy at the Arms Control Association, a nonpartisan organization that seeks to raise awareness about arms-control efforts, told me.

                Bolton, a proto–America Firster who joined the Trump administration in the spring, has long opposed international arms-control and nuclear-nonproliferation agreements that he claims are utterly ineffectual or intolerable infringements on the United States’ freedom of action. During the George W. Bush administration, he helped engineer the U.S. withdrawal from a treaty with Russia limiting antiballistic-missile systems and an agreement with North Korea rolling back its nuclear program, and he championed Washington’s exit from the Iran nuclear deal under Trump.

                In 2011, well before the United States was calling out Russia for violating the INF, Bolton argued for either bringing new countries into the treaty or scrapping the accord entirely, since it constrained America’s ability to counter rival nuclear powers like China and nuclear aspirants like Iran and North Korea. (Even without its own intermediate-range missiles near China, Iran, and North Korea, the United States can still deter these countries with other elements of its nuclear-weapons arsenal, such as nuclear-capable aircraft and submarines.)

                Trump has made a strikingly similar case—condemning the treaty for rendering the United States shackled and outgunned by a resurgent Russia and rising China, even as he floats the idea of one day reviving and expanding the agreement to include other nuclear-armed states.

                Richard Burt, who helped negotiate the INF Treaty during the Reagan administration, said that while he’d “love to believe that this is a very clever strategy to get leverage over the Russians” and compel them to adhere to the terms of the treaty, he seriously doubts it.

                Instead, he thinks Trump’s decision is an effort to shake off restraints and assert unfettered American sovereignty—just as the administration has done by withdrawing from the Paris climate pact and trade agreements.
                Last edited by Kepler; 01-23-2019, 03:39 PM.
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                • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

                  Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                  Good plan.
                  What do the lives of those serving America really matter when compared to his impulses of spouting off via Twitter?
                  "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984

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                  • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

                    Another reason not to use LinkedIn.
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                    • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

                      The turtle gingerly extends its neck from its shell...

                      They plan to send Trump a stern admonishment by voting Thursday afternoon on an amendment sponsored by McConnell warning “the precipitous withdrawal” of U.S. forces from Syria and Afghanistan “could put at risk hard-won gains and United States national security.”

                      The resolution also expresses a sense of the Senate that the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) and al Qaeda pose a “continuing threat to the homeland and our allies” and maintain an “ability to operate in Syria and Afghanistan.”

                      It’s a pointed rebuttal to the claim Trump made on Twitter in December that “we have defeated ISIS in Syria.”
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                      • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

                        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                        Bolton hates the INF and Dumpy listens to the last guy he hears.
                        Trump thinks with a child's vocabulary and sees only primary colors. Combine that with his narcissism, and you have a useless but extremely dangerous dude.

                        He should stick with selling condos.

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                        • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

                          Globalist Bolton's idea of "humanitarian aid". https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...shipment-miami

                          Get ready for another war classified as "regime change".

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                          • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

                            I assume, "Bolton's fault!" will be how the Dumpies deflect responsibility from Trump if there is a war.

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                            • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

                              When flaggy says "globalist," he really means "pan tribalist." And when he learns the Trump Family was designated Planet Earth Globalist Family of the Year, he will either seize up completely or start searching the West Virginia mountains for an honest-to-Parise tribalist who can make us all hate the feller on the other side of the holler.

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                              • Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                                I assume, "Bolton's fault!" will be how the Dumpies deflect responsibility from Trump if there is a war.
                                Flaggys already pushing it. Must be Alex' point of the day.
                                What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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