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  • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

    Originally posted by ticapnews View Post
    Just to clarify the language, we aren't "cancelling" the deal with Iran. It isn't ours to cancel. It is a United Nations arrangement and the rest of the world (including Iran) is abiding by it.

    The United States is now a rogue nation.
    In a word, we are violating it.
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    • Originally posted by ticapnews View Post
      Just to clarify the language, we aren't "cancelling" the deal with Iran. It isn't ours to cancel. It is a United Nations arrangement and the rest of the world (including Iran) is abiding by it.

      The United States is now a rogue nation.
      I didn't know that the UN are our overlords.
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      • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

        Originally posted by joecct View Post
        I didn't know that the UN are our overlords.
        speaking of..... if tD really wanted to get the pitchforks out among the masses, THIS would be the main talking point
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        • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

          Originally posted by joecct View Post
          I didn't know that the UN are our overlords.
          We're a signator to the UN charter and we negotiated a treaty. So yeah we can do whatever we want if we want to completely destroy our reputation. Why would anybody sign a treaty -- or any document -- with us knowing we'll just abrogate it whenever we want?

          But sure, American Exceptionalism! Boo-yah!
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          • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
            We're a signator to the UN charter and we negotiated a treaty. So yeah we can do whatever we want if we want to completely destroy our reputation. Why would anybody sign a treaty -- or any document -- with us knowing we'll just abrogate it whenever we want?

            But sure, American Exceptionalism! Boo-yah!
            Was the treaty passed by the $enate? If not, it is just a piece of paper.
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            • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

              Its not like the US has ever picked a fight in spite of global advice in a catastrophic way or anything.
              Go Gophers!

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              • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                We're a signator to the UN charter and we negotiated a treaty. So yeah we can do whatever we want if we want to completely destroy our reputation. Why would anybody sign a treaty -- or any document -- with us knowing we'll just abrogate it whenever we want?

                But sure, American Exceptionalism! Boo-yah!
                plus the us pays all the bills
                a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

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                • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

                  Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                  We're a signator to the UN charter and we negotiated a treaty. So yeah we can do whatever we want if we want to completely destroy our reputation. Why would anybody sign a treaty -- or any document -- with us knowing we'll just abrogate it whenever we want?

                  But sure, American Exceptionalism! Boo-yah!
                  don't bother. Joe is a lost cause.

                  I don't know why you're constantly giving him the benefit of the doubt.

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                  • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

                    Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
                    plus the us pays all the bills
                    IIRC we're way behind on our bills. But it's long since past the time when the UN should pull up and move to a neutral country. Geneva is gorgeous.
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                    • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

                      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                      IIRC we're way behind on our bills. But it's long since past the time when the UN should pull up and move to a neutral country. Geneva is gorgeous.
                      About time to kick us from the security council as well.
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                      • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                        Geneva is gorgeous.
                        Can’t wait to visit. Plan is to hit that between Lyon and Milan over Christmas vacation.
                        a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

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                        • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

                          Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
                          Can’t wait to visit. Plan is to hit that between Lyon and Milan over Christmas vacation.
                          I've still never been to Switzerland. I would kill to emigrate there.

                          They'd even be OK with admitting me:

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                          • Originally posted by joecct View Post
                            Was the treaty passed by the $enate? If not, it is just a piece of paper.
                            So is the Constitution.

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                            • Originally posted by ticapnews View Post
                              So is the Constitution.
                              You know better than that! Different requirement. Need 3/4 of the states to change it. and you ignore a passed law at your own peril.

                              Anything else is policy.
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                              • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

                                This looks great! Every college and HS kid in America should be taught what a vile, evil bastard sob Allen Dulles was.
                                https://youtu.be/3az-0IALCpY
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