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  • #16
    Re: St. Lawrence Skating Saints '17-'18

    Originally posted by hockeyplayer1015 View Post
    I agree with a lot of that, Mike (as we've discussed elsewhere).

    I'm not sure Kyle "lost" his job, necessarily. Obviously haven't watched the games, but given that UW seemed to be getting outplayed/outshot in most games (IIRC), I'd guess he wasn't getting a ton of help. Maybe some of the Badger posters can chime in here to confirm/deny.
    No.......I agree......I don't think he lost it either. I think it was just a wake up/shake up for the whole team as they played poorly the night before.

    Originally posted by Saints17 View Post
    A few things here, the Saints as posted before are in a transition stage with a new HC. They lost a few kids when Carvel left. The whole Hayton situation is a toss up from what I have heard. I do know from speaking with a few current players, they love playing for Coach Morris. Also someone who I know quite well has told me Coach Morris is not the same Coach when left Clarkson. Even the record may not reflect that I have faith he will turn it around. I'm more concerned with league play and not having Joecct bust our chops.
    Joe can bust our chops anytime and right now they have bragging rights as they are off to a great start and the women got to raise a banner yesterday. That's quite an accomplishment and I'm so happy for Matt.
    SLU

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    • #17
      Re: St. Lawrence Skating Saints '17-'18

      Whoa Kimosabe! I'm feeling your pain. As Brian can testify us ex CCT chat room folk cheered on SLU except for the times they were playing us. Then it was curses, burgers again!

      MM at the end of his tenure was caught in the cross hairs of a college president who had no idea how a D3 school could support a D1 hockey team and made life difficult.

      I still think that it was a coup among certain players and the administration, but we'll never know the true details as the records are sealed after MM took us to the cleaners in court.
      CCT '77 & '78
      4 kids
      5 grandsons (BCA 7/09, CJA 5/14, JDL 8/14, JFL 6/16, PJL 7/18)
      1 granddaughter (EML 4/18)

      ”Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.”
      - Benjamin Franklin

      Banned from the St. Lawrence University Facebook page - March 2016 (But I got better).

      I want to live forever. So far, so good.

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      • #18
        Re: St. Lawrence Skating Saints '17-'18

        Originally posted by hockeyplayer1015 View Post
        I agree with a lot of that, Mike (as we've discussed elsewhere).

        I'm not sure Kyle "lost" his job, necessarily. Obviously haven't watched the games, but given that UW seemed to be getting outplayed/outshot in most games (IIRC), I'd guess he wasn't getting a ton of help. Maybe some of the Badger posters can chime in here to confirm/deny.
        I think Jack Berry replacing Kyle was more or less the plan as Tony has been talking about getting Jack a start. It maybe that the fact Kyle wasn't good Friday (and the team was awful) presented a good opportunity to shake things up, but it's as likely that Jack knew he was going Saturday anyway. Tony likes to play everybody-- and play everybody with everybody. Guy could be in the stands one night and on the top line the next. I'm pretty sure he's used 20+ different line combos already this year. It makes waiting for the chart to come out pregame interesting.

        The exception is on the blue line, probably because we're playing 3 freshman and they need the ice time. I'd say if there's a perception that the Badgers have been getting out played that would be true in their two Friday night losses, otherwise they have been the better team and leading the whole way in their wins.

        Peter Tischke, (for my money one of the best D in the country) was probably concussed last night and I'd think would be questionable for next week. Barring incident, I'd be surprised if Kyle doesn't go both nights next week. He's been very good and wasn't really bad Friday, but like the whole team, wasn't on top of his game.
        Originally posted by WiscTJK
        I'm with Wisko and Tim.
        Originally posted by Timothy A
        Other than Wisko McBadgerton and Badger Bob, who is universally loved by all?

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        • #19
          Re: St. Lawrence Skating Saints '17-'18

          The Friday night game is available on BTN2GO for free.
          CCT '77 & '78
          4 kids
          5 grandsons (BCA 7/09, CJA 5/14, JDL 8/14, JFL 6/16, PJL 7/18)
          1 granddaughter (EML 4/18)

          ”Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.”
          - Benjamin Franklin

          Banned from the St. Lawrence University Facebook page - March 2016 (But I got better).

          I want to live forever. So far, so good.

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          • #20
            Re: St. Lawrence Skating Saints '17-'18

            Originally posted by GoldenBear View Post
            The far end opposite the main entrance. Opponent goal is right in front of the zamboni doors for the 1st and 3rd periods. https://www.stubhub.com/st-lawrence-...sort=price+asc The end that is sections P-Q-R-A. Hope you and your son enjoy Appleton and the North Country trip!
            Thank you it was a great time! The SLU fans were as classy as I remembered and Appleton is a jewel. Personally I love the setting instead of the modern nonsense in some rinks that may enhance some of the fan experience but takes the focus off the game. Imagine having to pay attention to the game so you know whats going on? Showing my age I guess. Coach Marsh, Lappin and LaPerriere were playing when I was there last.
            Anyway we really had a great time and wish SLU all the best going forward. They played with heart and it makes me want to check them out when they play at Brown or Cambridge.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by PC91 View Post
              Thank you it was a great time! The SLU fans were as classy as I remembered and Appleton is a jewel. Personally I love the setting instead of the modern nonsense in some rinks that may enhance some of the fan experience but takes the focus off the game. Imagine having to pay attention to the game so you know whats going on? Showing my age I guess. Coach Marsh, Lappin and LaPerriere were playing when I was there last.
              Anyway we really had a great time and wish SLU all the best going forward. They played with heart and it makes me want to check them out when they play at Brown or Cambridge.
              Thanks for the kind remarks. That may not have been the "prettiest" hockey game ever (for either team), but it wasn't short on excitement. Best of luck to the Friars, as well.

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              • #22
                Re: St. Lawrence Skating Saints '17-'18

                Hello everyone! As you may or may not have seen, vicb is not running the annual ECAC Pick the Standings contest this season. I have decided to take up the torch and run it. I know we are running on rather short notice as the season will start in just four days, but hopefully we can get a decent turnout regardless. If you'd like to participate, just head on over to the thread and submit your prediction! Thanks and good luck!
                RPI Pep Band
                GO GO GO YOU RED RED RED!!! and I guess Yale?
                🎶🎺🎺🎺 LET'S GO BLUES!

                2017-2018 RPI Pick to Click – Champion
                2013-2016 RPI Pick to Click – Back-to-Back-to-Back Runner-Up
                2014-15, 2018-19 ECAC Pick the Standings – Last Place

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                • #23
                  Re: St. Lawrence Skating Saints '17-'18

                  Apologies for the double post...

                  Here's one final reminder that today is the LAST DAY to submit an entry into the ECAC Pick The Standings contest! League play starts tonight, so if you'd like to participate, just head on over to the thread and submit your prediction! Thanks and good luck!
                  RPI Pep Band
                  GO GO GO YOU RED RED RED!!! and I guess Yale?
                  🎶🎺🎺🎺 LET'S GO BLUES!

                  2017-2018 RPI Pick to Click – Champion
                  2013-2016 RPI Pick to Click – Back-to-Back-to-Back Runner-Up
                  2014-15, 2018-19 ECAC Pick the Standings – Last Place

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                  • #24
                    Re: St. Lawrence Skating Saints '17-'18

                    Well..........a pretty rough weekend.

                    Looks like this thread is about as dead as our record at the moment. Pre-season I thought we'd lose about 20 games this year. That might have been optimistic.

                    Our home record is horrible and frankly last nights game (other than Brown) could very well have been a game for one of the last 3 spots in the league at the bottom of the standings. Right now it's looking like Brown, RPI and our team will be the cellar dwellers this year. Last night was a game we had to have. RPI got spanked by Clarkson and although we finally out shot a team by a wide margin........that was a game we needed to win at home.

                    We'll see how it goes as the next 4 games are on the road. Yale and Brown. I normally go to both of those but honestly, I really have no desire to go. For the first time in about 17 years I'll probably skip the Yale/Brown games even though both are close to where I live.
                    SLU

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                    • #25
                      Re: St. Lawrence Skating Saints '17-'18

                      Didn't go to the Friday game versus Union but did go to Saturday's game versus RPI. Not much to report on...I still stand by original statement of big, slow, dumb and undisciplined. It seems the only thing we are doing a lot of is taking penalties. Pritchard is lucky that RPI player got up somewhat quickly or he would be looking at a suspension for that hit from behind. The more I see them play the more I find myself quoting Danny from the Hoot, "Scary!" The real scary thing is some of these penalties aren't just being undisciplined or dumb, they are because we are so far behind skill wise that the guys are taking them just to try to slow the other teams down. I know Coach Morris has won everywhere he has been and I still believe he will build a winning team but the next year or two at least are going to be extremely ugly, it's crazy how far we have dropped off in basically a year.

                      Neither of those teams looked like D-I hockey teams, some serious poor hockey was played on Saturday.
                      Mr. Hoot Owl says, "Scary isn't it ?!? You never know!!!"

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                      • #26
                        Re: St. Lawrence Skating Saints '17-'18

                        What a great season this has been. I've been so drunk I've never made it off the Hoot Owl bar stool. Man, I miss the arena. Big road trip this week, maybe I'll catch the games at the Holiday Inn. They pour a great beer! And the local babes!

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                        • #27
                          Re: St. Lawrence Skating Saints '17-'18

                          Originally posted by DrunkAtAppleton View Post
                          I've been so drunk I've never made it off the Hoot Owl bar stool.
                          Great move compared to having to watch this season so far...I had a free ticket to last Saturday's game and I am mad at the guy who gave it to me. Might join you from now on during home game weekends.
                          Mr. Hoot Owl says, "Scary isn't it ?!? You never know!!!"

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                          • #28
                            Re: St. Lawrence Skating Saints '17-'18

                            Originally posted by GoldenBear View Post
                            Didn't go to the Friday game versus Union but did go to Saturday's game versus RPI. Not much to report on...I still stand by original statement of big, slow, dumb and undisciplined. It seems the only thing we are doing a lot of is taking penalties. Pritchard is lucky that RPI player got up somewhat quickly or he would be looking at a suspension for that hit from behind. The more I see them play the more I find myself quoting Danny from the Hoot, "Scary!" The real scary thing is some of these penalties aren't just being undisciplined or dumb, they are because we are so far behind skill wise that the guys are taking them just to try to slow the other teams down. I know Coach Morris has won everywhere he has been and I still believe he will build a winning team but the next year or two at least are going to be extremely ugly, it's crazy how far we have dropped off in basically a year.

                            Neither of those teams looked like D-I hockey teams, some serious poor hockey was played on Saturday.
                            Can it get any worse????

                            I live a half hour from Yale and for the first time since 1999 I did not attend the Yale game. Frankly.......... I have/had no desire to watch this team play. We are down to three lines with Corriveau being injured and likely out for the year. I hear Laidley might not make it back (not sure on that one).....Marnell has what?? His 5th concussion? You have to think his career is in jeopardy at this point. With the talent and record there is really no point for him to risk his future and come back. Hate to say it or see it, but, he should hang them up. I hear the assistant coach went to Sweden looking for players that could come in this year as we are so weak and do not have enough healthy players to make out a full four forward lines. It's really a shame. I agree with you Golden Bear that Morris has won everywhere he's been. You appear confident he will build a winning team......but I have to ask..........with the recruits he has playing now, which you seem down on........what hope do you hold out that it's going to get better??? My question is with likely a 25 loss season on tap will the guy keep his job??? I too am amazed how quickly the worm has turned.
                            SLU

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                            • #29
                              Re: St. Lawrence Skating Saints '17-'18

                              Originally posted by critsports View Post
                              with the recruits he has playing now, which you seem down on........what hope do you hold out that it's going to get better??? My question is with likely a 25 loss season on tap will the guy keep his job??? I too am amazed how quickly the worm has turned.
                              I am just going off his career track record, he has won everywhere he has ever been. It appears from the signings that there are good players coming in the pipeline. That being said I had multiple conversations this weekend as we saw the scores from another brutal weekend was all about is Morris going to survive. Will SLU keep him around long enough to see his vision of the rebuild through? A couple things he has going for him is SLU (administration) will not fire him on their own. This is because the university is in the process of slashing athletic budgets across the board and will not spend the money to buyout his contract and pay another head coach at the same time. Also, the SLU administration will not want to fire him before his contract is up to try to save face after the big blowback they received from hiring him in the first place.

                              So it all boils down to is does the Alumni step up and get the money together to buyout his contract for the school? The way things are going and the way people are already talking I don't think this course of action is completely out of the realm of happening.
                              Mr. Hoot Owl says, "Scary isn't it ?!? You never know!!!"

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                              • #30
                                Re: St. Lawrence Skating Saints '17-'18

                                Originally posted by GoldenBear View Post
                                I am just going off his career track record, he has won everywhere he has ever been. It appears from the signings that there are good players coming in the pipeline. That being said I had multiple conversations this weekend as we saw the scores from another brutal weekend was all about is Morris going to survive. Will SLU keep him around long enough to see his vision of the rebuild through? A couple things he has going for him is SLU (administration) will not fire him on their own. This is because the university is in the process of slashing athletic budgets across the board and will not spend the money to buyout his contract and pay another head coach at the same time. Also, the SLU administration will not want to fire him before his contract is up to try to save face after the big blowback they received from hiring him in the first place.

                                So it all boils down to is does the Alumni step up and get the money together to buyout his contract for the school? The way things are going and the way people are already talking I don't think this course of action is completely out of the realm of happening.
                                I agree with you 100% about the money situation and contracts. I tried looking on line and couldn't find anything about his contract. Do we know how long he is signed for?? My guess is we have to ride it out as I highly doubt the alumni would step up to buy his contract out. I think the more likely scenario is one of two things.............

                                1. We just hang in there until his contract expires and the tide hopefully turns for the better. I mean.........look up the street. Clarkson was pretty mediocre for years and they have stuck with Casey Jones and now it appears to be paying off (finally.)

                                2. He does something egregious that gives SLU admin an out to break the contract. You are right there in the North Country so you are probably better wired in than most of us from away.......but, the conversations and rumors I hear are that he is very paranoid, is brutal on some of the players he doesn't like, and that he may have been close to crossing the line in some instances. There are rumors (and I stress they are only hearsay) that Corriveau was playing on an injured knee for a while now and was somewhat coaxed or given the OK to play on it. I heard when he finally got to a specialist.......the Dr. shut him down saying he further damaged or risked serious injury playing on it. If true......that could put the coach and team Dr. in a bad place. Again........it's only hearsay but....if true something like that or something similar could be a problem for any coach.

                                If I were a betting man I place the odds at 50-50 for either of those two scenario's.
                                SLU

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