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  • #181
    Re: Making a Murderer updates

    Just finished the whole shebang. Wow. I know I could go and look for even more current updates, but can anyone save me some time and say if that's it or not? It sounds like it is, but we've all seen weirder things happen.
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    • #182
      Re: Making a Murderer updates

      Pretty sure it is for now. I believe the show ended in May so more to come I would assume.
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      • #183
        Re: Making a Murderer updates

        @tmanitowoc on Twitter

        He posts snapshots of filings and caso, doj and manitowoc reports from the case.

        Evidently Zellner files Dec 20 and between now and then expects results from luminol and other tests of dasseys garage for TH blood etc


        EDIT: @zellnerlaw as well😀
        Last edited by solovsfett; 10-29-2018, 02:54 PM.
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        • #184
          Re: Making a Murderer updates

          Originally posted by Handyman View Post
          Pretty sure it is for now. I believe the show ended in May so more to come I would assume.
          From a general viewpoint, it's a fascinating look into all the legal processes of our judicial system. No matter what side of the fence you are on, unless you are a legal scholar, you learned from this series. Top notch in its detail.
          Last edited by The Rube; 10-29-2018, 02:54 PM.
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          • #185
            Re: Making a Murderer updates

            Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
            From a general viewpoint, it's a fascinating look into all the legal processes of our judicial system. No matter what side of the fence you are on, unless you are a legal scholar, you learned from this series. Top notch in its detail.
            I think the biggest take away is the crap that AEDPA created in the ability of federal courts to overturn state rulings...
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            • #186
              Re: Making a Murderer updates

              Originally posted by Shirtless Guy View Post
              I think the biggest take away is the crap that AEDPA created in the ability of federal courts to overturn state rulings...
              The emergency motions and such really opened my eyes. Not only can you file a petition, you can file another "emergency" petition on top of that. It's like double-secret probation type stuff. Forgive me for my ignorance here, but isn't one petition (with possible future amendments, not saying another separate petition) enough?
              Never really developed a taste for tequila. Kind of hard to understand how you make a drink out of something that sharp, inhospitable. Now, bourbon is easy to understand.
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              • #187
                Re: Making a Murderer updates

                Good grief, how can Kratz wonder why he’s tied to the cases all these years later when he’s showing up at the 7th circuit in Chicago and holding press conferences?

                https://t.co/fJdNVEWmgu?amp=1
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                "but you're not as confused as him are you. it's not your job to be as confused as Nigel". Tap pt 1.

                "I think it's ****ing stock. What--? Which part of that is unclear to you? I think it sounds stock to my ears. I mean, do you want me to write it down?" Tap Pt. 2

                Who???! So What!!!! Big Deal!!!!

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                • #188
                  Re: Making a Murderer updates

                  The gf/fiancée in episode 4... yeesh. I guess I should’ve seen it earlier, but I thought she was legitimate right until the random line before she goes to see him in jail about “and I knew if I became his girlfriend, I would be on this documentary.” Talk about showing your true colors.
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                  • #189
                    Originally posted by solovsfett View Post
                    There are in fact simple steps to clear the names of Hillegas, Bloedern, Tadych and Bobby Dassey. Submit to testing their dna (AND fingerprints)and offer to talk with Zellner. Innocent people have 0 to fear of tests or sworn statements.
                    Yeah, no. My public defender wife would smack you if you were her client and did something that stupid.

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                    • #190
                      Originally posted by solovsfett View Post
                      Definitely, I didn’t mean to advocate for talking without a lawyer present.
                      And any lawyer with their salt would tell you to shut up and stay quiet.

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                      • #191
                        Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
                        The emergency motions and such really opened my eyes. Not only can you file a petition, you can file another "emergency" petition on top of that. It's like double-secret probation type stuff. Forgive me for my ignorance here, but isn't one petition (with possible future amendments, not saying another separate petition) enough?
                        I took a class on post conviction relief in law school. AEDPA is meant to protect the process, not the individual. It's Congress' reaction to death penalty consists filing stuff non-stop.

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                        • #192
                          Originally posted by unofan View Post
                          I took a class on post conviction relief in law school. AEDPA is meant to protect the process, not the individual. It's Congress' reaction to death penalty consists filing stuff non-stop.
                          Yeah but the problem was they applied the same standard to every case not just death penalty cases which is why it is awful.

                          I am all for protecting the process and not delaying the execution (even if I am against the Death Penalty) but not any other way it is applied. It isn't protecting the process it is protecting the conviction.
                          "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                          -aparch

                          "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
                          -INCH

                          Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
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                          • #193
                            Re: Making a Murderer updates

                            Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                            Yeah but the problem was they applied the same standard to every case not just death penalty cases which is why it is awful.

                            I am all for protecting the process and not delaying the execution (even if I am against the Death Penalty) but not any other way it is applied. It isn't protecting the process it is protecting the conviction.
                            I knew it was a reaction to the endless filings; it just seems like it didn't really kill any paperwork, though. If you want to amend your original filing, boom, go for it.
                            Never really developed a taste for tequila. Kind of hard to understand how you make a drink out of something that sharp, inhospitable. Now, bourbon is easy to understand.
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                            • #194
                              Re: Making a Murderer updates

                              quick thoughts

                              - Wisconsin will never concede even though it appears LE in other states are beginning to take notice and ask ***? It’s incredible to witness this as a resident. Andy Colburn hired a PR firm a few years back to refute MAM...I guess talk radio blowhard Dan O’Donnel is part of that.
                              - you can’t defeat science so something has to give, with so much science/forensics and sworn statements on her side and judge Sutkiewicz acknowledging maybe 30% of the filings, will the luminol tests be the break in the dam or will Schimel and the courts just ignore or Deny that as well?
                              - anyone know if the FBI can investigate Bobby now based on Zellner’s discovery of the cd?
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                              "but you're not as confused as him are you. it's not your job to be as confused as Nigel". Tap pt 1.

                              "I think it's ****ing stock. What--? Which part of that is unclear to you? I think it sounds stock to my ears. I mean, do you want me to write it down?" Tap Pt. 2

                              Who???! So What!!!! Big Deal!!!!

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                              • #195
                                Re: Making a Murderer updates

                                Originally posted by solovsfett View Post
                                quick thoughts

                                - Wisconsin will never concede even though it appears LE in other states are beginning to take notice and ask ***? It’s incredible to witness this as a resident. Andy Colburn hired a PR firm a few years back to refute MAM...I guess talk radio blowhard Dan O’Donnel is part of that.
                                - you can’t defeat science so something has to give, with so much science/forensics and sworn statements on her side and judge Sutkiewicz acknowledging maybe 30% of the filings, will the luminol tests be the break in the dam or will Schimel and the courts just ignore or Deny that as well?
                                - anyone know if the FBI can investigate Bobby now based on Zellner’s discovery of the cd?
                                If they are out of ways to appeal/number of times to appeal, it could be over with.

                                The cd....I suppose it depends on if the images were of people underage. If they are 18+, and pics were photoshopped, had consenting adults in the torture porn biz, or were acquired from legit news sources/Freedom Of Information Act (public records), that may be a different story.
                                Never really developed a taste for tequila. Kind of hard to understand how you make a drink out of something that sharp, inhospitable. Now, bourbon is easy to understand.
                                Tastes like a warm summer day. -Raylan Givens

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