Climate Change 2: Thank God for Global Warming

[The Sicatoka]

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Understood.

Kep, you know it's a con job (any subject area) when the ABCs are strictly followed.

[Kepler]

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That and "SJW". You'd think "Social Justice" is a positive thing, but you'd be wrong, because 30 year old virgins on reddit use it as an insult.

When these people yell "virtue signalling!" and "social justice warrior!" they're just repeating their pappy yelling "n-gger lover!"

[The Sicatoka]

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When these people yell "virtue signalling!" and "social justice warrior!" they're just repeating their pappy yelling "n-gger lover!"

So you're a mind reader.

[dxmnkd316]

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This is the most useful expression ever created because as soon as somebody uses it you can just put them on Ignore forever, they're an as-swipe.

Seriously, language is a conveyor of meaning and boy does that expression convey meaning.

Interesting. I had never heard of this before. And if the use of that word doesn’t prove Sic is completely out of his element and doesn’t know sh-t, I actually am aware of the goings on behind the scenes at 3M. Every project that goes forward goes through several approval phases and now each one of those phases asks how can it be more sustainable or green. “Can we spend more to make it use less energy? Reduce solvent usage? Cut water consumption? How much more?

3M also has extremely aggressive water conservation goals which are also asked about on every project. I’ve been involved in leading roles on several. These projects have virtually zero direct monetary payback.

This isn’t some sort of fake signaling of virtue. They put dollars behind this. Lots of dollars. So, sic, you can kindly p-ss right off with your low information replies.

[dxmnkd316]

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Actually, my favorite description of virtue signaling comes from Wikipedia.

Irony
A criticism of accusing another person of virtue signalling is that—as Jane Coaston in the The New York Times notes—in doing so ironically one is "trying to signal something about their own values: that they are pragmatic, appropriately cynical, in touch with the painful facts of everyday life".[20] In The Guardian, David Shariatmadari argues that this makes it "indistinguishable from the thing it was designed to call out [reproach]: smug posturing from a position of self-appointed authority".[3] Sam Bowman says of this that "saying virtue signalling is hypocritical. It’s often used to try to show that the accuser is above virtue signalling and that their own arguments really are sincere. Of course, this is really just another example of virtue signalling!".[5]

That doesn’t sound at all like anyone we know here.

[The Sicatoka]

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Interesting. I had never heard of this before. And if the use of that word doesn’t prove Sic is completely out of his element and doesn’t know sh-t, I actually am aware of the goings on behind the scenes at 3M. Every project that goes forward goes through several approval phases and now each one of those phases asks how can it be more sustainable or green. “Can we spend more to make it use less energy? Reduce solvent usage? Cut water consumption? How much more?

3M also has extremely aggressive water conservation goals which are also asked about on every project. I’ve been involved in leading roles on several. These projects have virtually zero direct monetary payback.

This isn’t some sort of fake signaling of virtue. They put dollars behind this. Lots of dollars. So, sic, you can kindly p-ss right off with your low information replies.

As a shareholder I'm happy they do those things to save costs* (i.e. make more profit) and be better neighbors.

But why the press release if not to ... virtue signal.

I'm saying virtue signalling is nothing but self-aggrandizing to an audience, a con. (And that happens in all directions. I bet certain shareholders/investors are told more about the cost savings than the green aspects of this. Same con, other direction. And playing to those folks' virtues, namely profit.)


*Using less, costs less, after the R&D is done. And the R&D is normally a write-off or tax credit.

[The Sicatoka]

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Actually, my favorite description of virtue signaling comes from Wikipedia.

That doesn’t sound at all like anyone we know here.

Trust me.
I have no virtue or virtues.

[dxmnkd316]

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As a shareholder I'm happy they do those things to save costs* (i.e. make more profit) and be better neighbors.

But why the press release if not to ... virtue signal.

I'm saying virtue signalling is nothing but self-aggrandizing to an audience, a con. (And that happens in all directions. I bet certain shareholders/investors are told more about the cost savings than the green aspects of this. Same con, other direction. And playing to those folks' virtues, namely profit.)


*Using less, costs less, after the R&D is done. And the R&D is normally a write-off or tax credit.

I’ll bet the shareholders don’t give a **** because literally everyone but you and your merry band of knuckledraggers knows that renewable is the future. Just like making sure women are equally represented on the board, protections and benefits are extended to LGBTQ employees, and other benefits that cost money like providing paternity leave in addition to maternity leave. Companies know this is the future which is why so many of the largest companies are signing on to efforts like these.

In fact, I think it was state street that said it was going to start using its enormous holdings to start voting on more progressive causes like equal representation for women.

Xcel Energy is going to provide only 100% renewables by 2050. B-B-B-BUT, THEY’RE VIRTUE SIGNALLING! No, they aren’t. Because they know it’s a better investment in the long run and it’s the right thing to do.

I’ll point this out again.
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/18/u...sions.amp.html

You can choose to live in the Stone Age or you can come with us to the future. Your choice.

[unofan]

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Everything's a con.
Once you realize that the world makes more sense.

You sound like my father-in-law, who had a literal psychopath for a brother and is himself probably somewhere on the sociopathic spectrum.

[Handyman]

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So announcing a plan is now virtue signaling? Apparently every press release EVER is a virtue signal...

I am gonna trust Sicatoka on all of this though over the guy who actually works at #M and knows the actual facts.

[state of hockey]

I am gonna trust Sicatoka on all of this though over the guy who actually works at #M and knows the actual facts.

Fool! You're allowing yourself to be brainwashed by someone that is too close to the project!

[Handyman]

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Fool! You're allowing yourself to be brainwashed by someone that is too close to the project!

Must be all those EMPs Sica is trying to protect us against

Personally I will wait until the Manilla envelope shows up to prove this was all virtue signalling

[dxmnkd316]

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Minnesota Governor Tim Walz proposing Minnesota require electricity providers to be 100% renewable by 2050.

https://thehill.com/policy/energy-en...lean-energy-by

[ScoobyDoo]

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Minnesota Governor Tim Walz proposing Minnesota require electricity providers to be 100% renewable by 2050.

https://thehill.com/policy/energy-en...lean-energy-by

Cue Republican arguments.

Your energy bills will increase. What happens when the sun isn't shining and the wind isn't blowing? Clean Coal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Handyman]

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Minnesota Governor Tim Walz proposing Minnesota require electricity providers to be 100% renewable by 2050.

https://thehill.com/policy/energy-en...lean-energy-by

Walz is going for broke on everything and I love it! The fact that it is ticking off the MNGOP is even better