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Originally posted by Kepler View PostWe're important because as of now we're the only form of life that we know knows it's alive. We're the only source of ethics or values or purpose; nothing else has any of that. We're the only real thing that counts as a god, or free, or responsible; the only prisoner to break out of nature's circle of determinism.
We should protect that at least until we discover something else that does it. We could be the only one ever.It's never too early to start the Pre-game festivities
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Originally posted by The Sicatoka View PostIn the pre-genus homo eras, CO2 levels were higher. Was there life on this planet during those times? What caused the CO2 levels then? Why'd they drop?
Another article to peruse on topic.
We'll kill ourselves off (unless the Sun or the planet beat us to it), but the planet will still have life. Call it a reboot. Nature wins.
Are you REALLY accepting that you and your family can die due to human work? Really? Feel free to answer that.
Pretending that this is just normal, and not accepting that humans can have an impact is kind of nuts. What odds of human cause do you want before anything is done? 5, 10, 50, 90 percent? If there's a chance that we can slow this change down, and save people's lives- why should we not?
Justifying this change in atmosphere that "it happened before so we will be ok" ignores what can and is happening just so people who are far richer than you can make a whole lot more money. Funny how we pan communism for killing a lot of people, from Russia of more than a few periods to China now with their emissions. Yet when it comes to capitalism, doing the exact same thing, just on a different scale, is fine.
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Originally posted by alfablue View PostJust remember, based on your acceptance of money over people, which is what your justification is, that when its your and your families time to die for the all mighty dollar, you have already accepted that fate.
Are you REALLY accepting that you and your family can die due to human work? Really? Feel free to answer that.
Pretending that this is just normal, and not accepting that humans can have an impact is kind of nuts. What odds of human cause do you want before anything is done? 5, 10, 50, 90 percent? If there's a chance that we can slow this change down, and save people's lives- why should we not?
Justifying this change in atmosphere that "it happened before so we will be ok" ignores what can and is happening just so people who are far richer than you can make a whole lot more money. Funny how we pan communism for killing a lot of people, from Russia of more than a few periods to China now with their emissions. Yet when it comes to capitalism, doing the exact same thing, just on a different scale, is fine.
GOP leaders were cynics. GOP voters were saps. A pattern emerges.Last edited by Kepler; 06-12-2019, 07:37 AM.Cornell University
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I just don't understand how people can be so divided on protecting our natural resources.
As a hunter, it makes sense to protect the land so more animals can thrive so hunting remains viable.
As a nature lover, I want to keep our outdoors a place to get away and hike, explore and camp.
There should be no reason both sides can't agree protecting nature is important.
Even the dbag Texans who only go to Colorado to ride their dirt bikes and destroy the trails should want to protect these areas.
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Originally posted by cF[Authentic] View PostRant:
I just don't understand how people can be so divided on protecting our natural resources.
As a hunter, it makes sense to protect the land so more animals can thrive so hunting remains viable.
As a nature lover, I want to keep our outdoors a place to get away and hike, explore and camp.
There should be no reason both sides can't agree protecting nature is important.
Even the dbag Texans who only go to Colorado to ride their dirt bikes and destroy the trails should want to protect these areas.
On the surface, when asked, they will say that they are for protecting out resources. But of those people, how many of them are the ones that leave garbage all over any access point (scrap line, worm/hook containers, food packages, etc.)? The ones that are oblivious to any sort of regulation (catch limits) or just downright ignore the regs? These are people who actively partake in the hobby, but are also the ones destroying it. Every time we lose access to a place due to trash being involved (both human and physical) the finger is always pointed elsewhere. It's always the "other guy" that littered, but not me! There is always the older crowd who points and says "back in my day we could catch 100+ __________ and keep every one! It's BS that I can only keep 5 now!"
That is the biggest problem the outdoors face. It's the inability to look inwards at our own kind that are causing the problems. And at least here in the Chicago area, I'd wager the vote is probably split somewhat even between D and R with the subset of people in question....It's never too early to start the Pre-game festivities
Go Cats!!! GO BLACKHAWKS!
Cuck the Fubs... Let's Go WHITE SOX!!!
Wildcat Born, Wildcat Bred....
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Originally posted by cF[Authentic] View PostRant:
I just don't understand how people can be so divided on protecting our natural resources.
As a hunter, it makes sense to protect the land so more animals can thrive so hunting remains viable.
As a nature lover, I want to keep our outdoors a place to get away and hike, explore and camp.
There should be no reason both sides can't agree protecting nature is important.
Even the dbag Texans who only go to Colorado to ride their dirt bikes and destroy the trails should want to protect these areas.
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Originally posted by RaceBoarder View PostThe "outdoorsy" subset of people is very strange when you look at it. To use fishing as an example:
On the surface, when asked, they will say that they are for protecting out resources. But of those people, how many of them are the ones that leave garbage all over any access point (scrap line, worm/hook containers, food packages, etc.)? The ones that are oblivious to any sort of regulation (catch limits) or just downright ignore the regs? These are people who actively partake in the hobby, but are also the ones destroying it. Every time we lose access to a place due to trash being involved (both human and physical) the finger is always pointed elsewhere. It's always the "other guy" that littered, but not me! There is always the older crowd who points and says "back in my day we could catch 100+ __________ and keep every one! It's BS that I can only keep 5 now!"
That is the biggest problem the outdoors face. It's the inability to look inwards at our own kind that are causing the problems. And at least here in the Chicago area, I'd wager the vote is probably split somewhat even between D and R with the subset of people in question....
This was totally a man made change. Why can't people see that man can have an impact?
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Originally posted by alfablue View PostAs a farmer, you want to protect the natural resources and not alter the environment so that you can continue to farm, too. How the Farmers are in such denial is kind of odd. All the while as they complain about non normal rainfall and flooding.
People don't want to admit that maybe they are part of the problem and won't be part of the solution because that takes an effort to change their ways...It's never too early to start the Pre-game festivities
Go Cats!!! GO BLACKHAWKS!
Cuck the Fubs... Let's Go WHITE SOX!!!
Wildcat Born, Wildcat Bred....
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Originally posted by RaceBoarder View PostProbably very similar to what I posted above about fisher people... "It's Dave's fault for using old/harmful methods and causing the problem!" But then that same guy goes and uses the same method because that's what he's been taught is the right way....
People don't want to admit that maybe they are part of the problem and won't be part of the solution because that takes an effort to change their ways...
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Originally posted by RaceBoarder View PostPeople don't want to admit that maybe they are part of the problem and won't be part of the solution because that takes an effort to change their ways...
Carbon footprint and renewables will follow the same trajectory. It's only been in the public arena now for about 20 years; we still have another 30 to go. Plus with recycling there wasn't much of an industry pushback to falsify the science (Big Styrofoam?), whereas with fossil fuels there's a vampire squid trying to stifle the debate.Cornell University
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I'll be the roundabout?????
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