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    #11 – Cornell Big Red
    Points: 168.2105
    Points in 2018-2019: 4.9633 (Rank: 4)
    Points in the 2010s: 16.9315 (Rank: 20)
    NCAA Achievements in the Decade: 2010 East Regional Semifinalist, 2012 Midwest Regional Finalist, 2017 Northeast Regional Semifinalist, 2018 Northeast Regional Semifinalist, 2019 East Regional Finalist.
    Conference Achievements in the Decade: ECAC Regular Season Champions – 2017-2018, 2018-2019. ECAC Tournament Champions – 2010.

    The Big Red began the decade with three winning seasons and one NCAA tournament berth in 2011-2012. Since 2015-2016, Cornell has had four straight winning seasons, with the last three over .600. In 2017-2018, the Big Red won the regular season title for the first time since 2004-2005, and in 2018-2019 they were an overtime goal away from their first league tournament title since 2009-2010. Cornell made the NCAA tournament four times in the decade, including the last three seasons. Cornell beat Northeastern in the first round of the 2018-2019 NCAA tournament, before losing to Providence in the East Region final.. – drshoen


    #12 – Michigan Tech Huskies
    Points: 166.9672
    Points in 2018-2019: -0.1012 (Rank: 53)
    Points in the 2010s: 10.4619 (Rank: 26)
    NCAA Achievements in the Decade: 2015 West Regional Semifinalist, 2017 Midwest Regional Semifinalist, 2018 East Regional Semifinalist.
    Conference Achievements in the Decade: WCHA Regular Season Champions – 2015-2016. WCHA Tournament Champions – 2017, 2018.



    #13 – Lake Superior State Lakers
    Points: 154.8024
    Points in 2018-2019: 0.6179 (Rank: 20)
    Points in the 2010s: 1.214 (Rank: 52)
    NCAA Achievements in the Decade: None
    Conference Achievements in the Decade: WCHA Regular Season 4th Place Finish – 2018-2019. WCHA Tournament Semifinalist – 2019.


    #14 – Colorado College Tigers
    Points: 147.113
    Points in 2018-2019: 0.0338 (Rank: 37)
    Points in the 2010s: 4.756 (Rank: 34)
    NCAA Achievements in the Decade: 2011 West Regional Finalist.
    Conference Achievements in the Decade: WCHA Tournament Runner-Up – 2013.

    The Tigers had a good start to the decade, beating defending national champion BC before falling to Michigan in 2011 in the West Regional. They followed that up with another strong season in ’11-’12, with a record of 18-16-2. But CC has not had a winning record since, going 70-135-22 from ’13-’14 to last season. Long-time coach Scott Owens resigned after the ’13-’14 season, handing over the reins to Mike Haviland, who hasn’t had a +.500 season although the team has improved to double digit wins the past two seasons and made their first trip to the NCHC Frozen Faceoff last season. The Tigers look to improve again this season with two grad transfers joining the team (and losing one grad transfer). Anything less than a winning season will likely result in a fall in these rankings. – SiouxfaninSeattle


    #15 – Harvard Crimson
    Points: 146.9728
    Points in 2018-2019: 1.5134 (Rank: 14)
    Points in the 2010s: 27.8834 (Rank: 15)
    NCAA Achievements in the Decade: 2015 Midwest Regional Semifinalist, 2016 Northeast Regional Semifinalist, 2017 NCAA Semifinalist, 2019 Northeast Regional Semifinalist.
    Conference Achievements in the Decade: ECAC Regular Season Champions – 2016-2017. ECAC Tournament Champions – 2015, 2017.

    The Crimson started the decade slowly, finishing below .500 in three of the first four years. In 2014-2015, the turnaround began, with a league tournament title and a return to the NCAA tournament for the first time since 2005-2006. The next four seasons brought continued success, with three NCAA tournament appearances (including a trip to the Frozen Four in 2016-2017). Harvard also won the regular season and tournament in 2016-2017, and (perhaps most importantly) won the Beanpot tournament, defeating Boston University in the final. – drshoen
    North Dakota
    National Champions: 1959, 1963, 1980, 1982, 1987, 1997, 2000, 2016

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      #6 – Boston University Terriers
      Points: 381.4177
      Points in 2018-2019: -1.4849 (Rank: 60)
      Points in the 2010s: 36.5528 (Rank: 11)
      NCAA Achievements in the Decade: 2012 West Regional Semifinalist, 2015 NCAA National Runner-Up, 2016 West Regional Semifinalist, 2017 West Regional Finalist, 2018 Northeast Regional Finalist.
      Conference Achievements in the Decade: Hockey East Regular Season Champions – 2014-2015, 2016-2017. Hockey East Tournament Champions – 2015, 2018.

      . – Snively65


      #7 – Wisconsin Badgers
      Points: 346.9685
      Points in 2018-2019: -0.0095 (Rank: 45)
      Points in the 2010s: 30.2851 (Rank: 14)
      NCAA Achievements in the Decade: 2010 NCAA National Runner-up, 2013 Northeast Regional Semifinalist, 2014 Midwest Regional Semifinalist.
      Conference Achievements in the Decade: WCHA Regular Season Runner-up – 2009-2010. Big Ten Regular Season Runner-up – 2013-2014, 2016-207. WCHA Tournament Champions – 2013. Big Ten Tournament Champions – 2014.



      #8 – Michigan State Spartans
      Points: 233.3541
      Points in 2018-2019: 1.1214 (Rank: 15)
      Points in the 2010s: 2.2713 (Rank: 45)
      NCAA Achievements in the Decade: None
      Conference Achievements in the Decade: CCHA Regular Season Runner-up – 2009-2010. Big Ten Regular Season Runner-up – 2014-2015. Big Ten Tournament Semifinalist – 2015, 2016.


      #9 – Minnesota Duluth Bulldogs
      Points: 207.5204
      Points in 2018-2019: 40.0512 (Rank: 1)
      Points in the 2010s: 140.9796 (Rank: 1)
      NCAA Achievements in the Decade: 2011 NCAA National Champions, 2012 Northeast Regional Finalist, 2015 Northeast Regional Finalist, 2016 Northeast Regional Finalist, 2017 NCAA National Runner-up, 2018 NCAA National Champions, 2019 NCAA National Champions
      Conference Achievements in the Decade: WCHA Regular Season Runner-up – 2011-2012. NCHC Regular Season Runner-up – 2016-2017, 2018-2019. NCHC Tournament Champions – 2017, 2019.

      The unquestionable team of the decade is the UMD Bulldogs, with national championships in 2011, 2018 and 2019, as well as a 2nd place finish in 2017. The only years they didn’t make the national tournament were 2013 and 2014. Along the way they also won the NCHC playoffs in 2017 and 2019. Their success resulted in an offer for head coach Scott Sandelin to go to the NHL, but he decided to stay at UMD and was rewarded with a four year contract extension. Although they lost two players to early signings the Bulldogs look to be in great shape to continue their success and climb in these rankings. – SiouxfaninSeattle


      #10 – Maine Black Bears
      Points: 173.4251
      Points in 2018-2019: 0.0114 (Rank: 40)
      Points in the 2010s: 0.0427 (Rank: 58)
      NCAA Achievements in the Decade: 2012 Northeast Regional Semifinalist.
      Conference Achievements in the Decade: Hockey East Regular Season 3rd Place Finish – 2009-2010. Hockey East Tournament Runner-up – 2010, 2012.

      . – Snively65
      North Dakota
      National Champions: 1959, 1963, 1980, 1982, 1987, 1997, 2000, 2016

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        #1 – Michigan Wolverines
        Points: 509.0714
        Points in 2018-2019: 0.6355 (Rank: 18)
        Points in the 2010s: 36.8509 (Rank: 10)
        NCAA Achievements in the Decade: 2011 NCAA National Runner-up, 2012 Midwest Regional Semifinalist, 2016 Midwest Regional Finalist, 2018 NCAA Semifinalist.
        Conference Achievements in the Decade: CCHA Regular Season Champions – 2010-2011. CCHA Tournament Champions – 2010. Big Ten Tournament Champions – 2016.


        #2 – North Dakota Fighting Hawks
        Points: 507.3485
        Points in 2018-2019: -0.2573 (Rank: 57)
        Points in the 2010s: 97.344 (Rank: 3)
        NCAA Achievements in the Decade: 2010 Northeast Regional Semifinalist, 2011 NCAA Semifinalist, 2012 West Regional Finalist, 2013 West Regional Finalist, 2014 NCAA Semifinalist, 2015 NCAA Semifinalist, 2016 NCAA National Champions, 2017 West Regional Semifinalist
        Conference Achievements in the Decade: WCHA Regular Season Champions – 2010-2011. NCHC Regular Season Champions – 2014-2015, 2015-2016. WCHA Tournament Champions – 2010, 2011, 2012.

        The decade was a mixed bag for North Dakota. The National Championship in 2016 was the team’s first since 2000, and eighth in program history, but was followed up by two seasons of not making the national tournament, breaking a streak of 15 straight trips to the tournament. Coach Dave Hakstol guided the team to the tournament every season in the 11 years that he was at North Dakota but only made it to the championship game once. He left for the head coach job at Philadelphia in the NHL after the ’14-’15 season. Long-time player/assistant coach Brad Berry was announced as the new head coach the same day as Hakstol left for Philadelphia. Berry started his career on a high note, becoming the first coach to win a D1 championship in his first year. The fans are becoming restless after two seasons of mediocrity and the team will need to return to the tournament if they expect to take back the number one spot in these rankings. – SiouxfaninSeattle


        #3 – Minnesota Golden Gophers
        Points: 444.9405
        Points in 2018-2019: 0.2941 (Rank: 23)
        Points in the 2010s: 47.0573 (Rank: 9)
        NCAA Achievements in the Decade: 2012 NCAA Semifinalist, 2013 West Regional Semifinalist, 2014 NCAA National Runner-up, 2015 Northeast Regional Semifinalist, 2017 Northeast Regional Semifinalist.
        Conference Achievements in the Decade: WCHA Regular Season Champions – 2011-2012, 2012-203. Big Ten Regular Season Champions – 2013-2014, 2014-2015, 2015-2016, 2016-2017. Big Ten Tournament Champions – 2015.

        #4 – Denver Pioneers
        Points: 423.2155
        Points in 2018-2019: 3.8818 (Rank: 6)
        Points in the 2010s: 92.8215 (Rank: 4)
        NCAA Achievements in the Decade: 2010 East Regional Semifinalist, 2011 Midwest Regional Finalist, 2012 Midwest Regional Semifinalist, 2013 Northeast Regional Semifinalist, 2014 Northeast Regional Semifinalist, 2015 East Regional Finalist, 2016 NCAA Semifinalist, 2017 NCAA National Champions, 2018 Midwest Regional Finalist, 2019 NCAA Semifinalist
        Conference Achievements in the Decade: WCHA Regular Season Champions – 2009-2010. NCHC Regular Season Champions – 2016-2017. NCHC Tournament Champions – 2014, 2018.

        The Pioneers made the national tournament every year in the decade and are riding a 12 year streak of appearances in the national tournament, currently the longest streak in college hockey, and are well positioned for another trip to the tournament this season. The culmination of their success was winning the National Championship in 2017. Head coach Jim Montgomery took advantage of his success with the program and left after the 2017-2018 season for the head coach job with the Dallas Stars. It looks like he left the team in capable hands as first year coach David Carle, the youngest coach in D1 hockey, took the team back to the national tournament. If DU can continue the results of the past decade they stand in good shape to move up a notch in these rankings. – SiouxfaninSeattle


        #5 – Boston College Eagles
        Points: 382.9426
        Points in 2018-2019: -0.4955 (Rank: 58)
        Points in the 2010s: 115.8383 (Rank: 2)
        NCAA Achievements in the Decade: 2010 NCAA National Champions, 2011 West Regional Semifinalist, 2012 NCAA National Champions, 2013 East Regional Semifinalist, 2014 NCAA Semifinalist, 2015 East Regional Semifinalist, 2016 NCAA Semifinalist.
        Conference Achievements in the Decade: Hockey East Regular Season Champions – 2010-2011, 2011-2012, 2013-2014, 2015-2016, 2016-2017, 2017-2018. Hockey East Tournament Champions – 2010, 2011, 2012.

        . – Snively65
        North Dakota
        National Champions: 1959, 1963, 1980, 1982, 1987, 1997, 2000, 2016

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          Originally posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
          #21 – Northern Michigan Wildcats
          Points: 82.7138
          Points in 2018-2019: 0.6665 (Rank: 17)
          Points in the 2010s: 4.4576 (Rank: 35)
          NCAA Achievements in the Decade: 2010 West Regional Semifinalist
          Conference Achievements in the Decade: WCHA Regular Season Runner-up – 2017-2018, 2018-2019. WCHA Tournament Runner-up – 2018.



          #22 – Yale Bulldogs
          Points: 76.6158
          Points in 2018-2019: 0.3165 (Rank: 22)
          Points in the 2010s: 51.5087 (Rank: 7)
          NCAA Achievements in the Decade: 2010 Northeast Regional Finalist, 2011 East Regional Finalist, 2013 NCAA National Champions, 2015 Northeast Regional Semifinalist, 2016 NCAA East Regional Semifinalist.
          Conference Achievements in the Decade: ECAC Regular Season Champions – 2009-2010. ECAC Tournament Champions – 2011.

          The Bulldogs started the decade winning the league tournament and returning to the NCAA tournament for the third straight year. After a down year, the Bulldogs went all the way to the NCAA title in 2012-13, beating Quinnipiac in an all ECAC final. Yale had only one losing season in the decade in 2016-2017, and finished at .500 the last two years. In addition to their title year, Yale made the NCAA tournament three other times in the decade.. – drshoen


          #23 – St. Lawrence Saints
          Points: 67.6502
          Points in 2018-2019: -0.8496 (Rank: 59)
          Points in the 2010s: 3.3038 (Rank: 40)
          NCAA Achievements in the Decade: None
          Conference Achievements in the Decade: ECAC Regular Season Runner-up – 2014-2015. ECAC Tournament Semifinalist – 2010, 2015, 2016.

          The Saints began the decade with below .500 seasons in the last two years under Joe Marsh. Greg Carvel was hired, and had 3 of 4 years of winning hockey before moving on to UMass. Mark Morris wan brought in, then fired at the end of this season after finishing 12th in the 12 team ECAC for consecutive seasons. After a lengthy search, SLU hired Brent Brekke, long-time assistant coach for his first head coaching job. St. Lawrence finished the decade without a regular season or conference tournament championship, and did not play in the national tournament in the 2010s.. – drshoen

          #24 – Notre Dame Fighting Irish
          Points: 66.6457
          Points in 2018-2019: 3.9938 (Rank: 5)
          Points in the 2010s: 33.078 (Rank: 12)
          NCAA Achievements in the Decade: 2011 NCAA Semifinalist, 2013 Midwest Regional Semifinalist, 2014 West Regional Semifinalist, 2016 Midwest Regional Semifinalist, 2017 NCAA Semifinalist, 2018 NCAA National Runner-up, 2019 Northeast Regional Finalist.
          Conference Achievements in the Decade: Big Ten Regular Season Champions – 2017-2018. CCHA Tournament Champions – 2013. Big Ten Tournament Champions – 2018, 2019.


          #25 – Union Dutchmen
          Points: 64.3818
          Points in 2018-2019: 0.2370 (Rank: 26)
          Points in the 2010s: 63.9769 (Rank: 5)
          NCAA Achievements in the Decade: 2011 East Regional Semifinalist, 2012 NCAA Semifinalist, 2013 East Regional Finalist, 2014 NCAA National Champions, 2017 Midwest Regional Semifinalist
          Conference Achievements in the Decade: ECAC Regular Season Champions – 2010-2011, 2011-2012, 2013-2014, 2016-2017. ECAC Tournament Champions – 2012, 2013, 2014.

          The Dutchmen began the decade with their first regular season title and their first NCAA tournament game. In the next season they won the regular season, the league tournament, and the NCAA East regional, before losing to Ferris State in the Frozen Four. Union continued to play at a high level. The next year brought another league tournament; then in 2013-14, Union won the regular season, league tournament, and the NCAA tournament (the second straight tournament won by an ECAC team). Union also won the regular season in 2016-2017, and finished above .500 every year except for the 2015-2016 year. – drshoen
          **** Union was almost #26!
          tUMD Hockey

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          • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

            Originally posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
            #6 – Boston University Terriers
            Points: 381.4177
            Points in 2018-2019: -1.4849 (Rank: 60)
            Points in the 2010s: 36.5528 (Rank: 11)
            NCAA Achievements in the Decade: 2012 West Regional Semifinalist, 2015 NCAA National Runner-Up, 2016 West Regional Semifinalist, 2017 West Regional Finalist, 2018 Northeast Regional Finalist.
            Conference Achievements in the Decade: Hockey East Regular Season Champions – 2014-2015, 2016-2017. Hockey East Tournament Champions – 2015, 2018.

            . – Snively65


            #7 – Wisconsin Badgers
            Points: 346.9685
            Points in 2018-2019: -0.0095 (Rank: 45)
            Points in the 2010s: 30.2851 (Rank: 14)
            NCAA Achievements in the Decade: 2010 NCAA National Runner-up, 2013 Northeast Regional Semifinalist, 2014 Midwest Regional Semifinalist.
            Conference Achievements in the Decade: WCHA Regular Season Runner-up – 2009-2010. Big Ten Regular Season Runner-up – 2013-2014, 2016-207. WCHA Tournament Champions – 2013. Big Ten Tournament Champions – 2014.



            #8 – Michigan State Spartans
            Points: 233.3541
            Points in 2018-2019: 1.1214 (Rank: 15)
            Points in the 2010s: 2.2713 (Rank: 45)
            NCAA Achievements in the Decade: None
            Conference Achievements in the Decade: CCHA Regular Season Runner-up – 2009-2010. Big Ten Regular Season Runner-up – 2014-2015. Big Ten Tournament Semifinalist – 2015, 2016.


            #9 – Minnesota Duluth Bulldogs
            Points: 207.5204
            Points in 2018-2019: 40.0512 (Rank: 1)
            Points in the 2010s: 140.9796 (Rank: 1)
            NCAA Achievements in the Decade: 2011 NCAA National Champions, 2012 Northeast Regional Finalist, 2015 Northeast Regional Finalist, 2016 Northeast Regional Finalist, 2017 NCAA National Runner-up, 2018 NCAA National Champions, 2019 NCAA National Champions
            Conference Achievements in the Decade: WCHA Regular Season Runner-up – 2011-2012. NCHC Regular Season Runner-up – 2016-2017, 2018-2019. NCHC Tournament Champions – 2017, 2019.

            The unquestionable team of the decade is the UMD Bulldogs, with national championships in 2011, 2018 and 2019, as well as a 2nd place finish in 2017. The only years they didn’t make the national tournament were 2013 and 2014. Along the way they also won the NCHC playoffs in 2017 and 2019. Their success resulted in an offer for head coach Scott Sandelin to go to the NHL, but he decided to stay at UMD and was rewarded with a four year contract extension. Although they lost two players to early signings the Bulldogs look to be in great shape to continue their success and climb in these rankings. – SiouxfaninSeattle


            #10 – Maine Black Bears
            Points: 173.4251
            Points in 2018-2019: 0.0114 (Rank: 40)
            Points in the 2010s: 0.0427 (Rank: 58)
            NCAA Achievements in the Decade: 2012 Northeast Regional Semifinalist.
            Conference Achievements in the Decade: Hockey East Regular Season 3rd Place Finish – 2009-2010. Hockey East Tournament Runner-up – 2010, 2012.

            . – Snively65
            Pretty awesome to see UMD in the top 10. I think they were about 15 in prior years that this was done. Thanks everyone for doing this. Its fun to read
            tUMD Hockey

            "And there is a banana running around the DECC." "Well you don't see that every day..."

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              Originally posted by Biddco View Post
              **** Union was almost #26!
              They're having a bad year this time around, maybe they will fall 1 spot
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                Seems like Cornell is well poised to crack the top 10 after this season; a national title might get them to #9.

                Top 7 is the elite club, however. It will be a loooong time before membership in that group changes.
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                  I am surprised to see Michigan State so high. They do have three titles but all three of those teams have been the worst teams to win an NCAA title. But I suppose the formula that doesn't matter. UMD's 2018 team had the most losses of any national champion, but it still counts.
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                    Originally posted by Biddco View Post
                    I am surprised to see Michigan State so high. They do have three titles but all three of those teams have been the worst teams to win an NCAA title. But I suppose the formula that doesn't matter. UMD's 2018 team had the most losses of any national champion, but it still counts.
                    Because Michigan St. has been down for quite awhile now it's easy to forget that they were a top program for about 25 years, from the early 80's until the mid-2000's. I think they made the tournament something like 23 out of 27 years, or something like that, had a number of Frozen Four appearances, were a top seed numerous times, and were consistently fighting with Michigan for CCHA tournament and regular season titles. I think they won something like 8 regular season championships and another 10-11 CCHA playoff championships. It's my guess that the CCHA championships and that 25 year stretch of pretty sustained competitiveness is where MSU gets its edge over UMD.
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                      Not sure how any of MSU’s championship teams could be worse that Yale, who squeaked into the tourney as PWR #15 due to a lack o conference tournament upsets (IIRC).
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                        Originally posted by Biddco View Post
                        **** Union was almost #26!
                        Union has a fairly comfortable lead for the 25 spot. Realistically, one of the following would need to occur: (1) Quinnipiac or Miami go on a run and make it to another national title game; or (2) one of Dartmouth, Ferris State, SCSU, Northeastern, Colgate, Ohio State or Massachusetts Lowell go on a run and win the national championship. Of course, that is just over the course of the next season. We will see where the Dutchmen are at the end of the 2020s.

                        Originally posted by Biddco View Post
                        Pretty awesome to see UMD in the top 10. I think they were about 15 in prior years that this was done. Thanks everyone for doing this. Its fun to read
                        Duluth had one of the top 5 or so decades in the history of the sport. Winning 3 titles in a decade is pretty impressive. Only Michigan (5 titles in the 50s), Denver (4 titles in the 60s), BU (3 titles in the 70s), Minnesota (3 titles in the 70s), and North Dakota (3 titles in the 80s) can claim such an accomplishment. They deserve to be in the Top 10. FWIW, UMD was 20th coming into the decade. Nice jump for the Bulldogs.

                        Originally posted by LynahFan View Post
                        Seems like Cornell is well poised to crack the top 10 after this season; a national title might get them to #9.

                        Top 7 is the elite club, however. It will be a loooong time before membership in that group changes.
                        Depending on what the teams surrounding them do, Cornell has a very good chance to push into the Top 10. A trip to the Frozen Four would almost certainly be enough, and a regional final appearance could do the trick. Moreover, as you recognized, a national title could vault them up to #9, but would probably require Duluth faltering down the stretch.

                        As for the Big 7, it will be a difficult group to catch. I would bet good money that the Big 7 won't change this decade or even the next. Unless of course Duluth just wins the title every season.

                        Originally posted by Biddco View Post
                        I am surprised to see Michigan State so high. They do have three titles but all three of those teams have been the worst teams to win an NCAA title. But I suppose the formula that doesn't matter. UMD's 2018 team had the most losses of any national champion, but it still counts.
                        Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
                        Because Michigan St. has been down for quite awhile now it's easy to forget that they were a top program for about 25 years, from the early 80's until the mid-2000's. I think they made the tournament something like 23 out of 27 years, or something like that, had a number of Frozen Four appearances, were a top seed numerous times, and were consistently fighting with Michigan for CCHA tournament and regular season titles. I think they won something like 8 regular season championships and another 10-11 CCHA playoff championships. It's my guess that the CCHA championships and that 25 year stretch of pretty sustained competitiveness is where MSU gets its edge over UMD.
                        Bingo. Michigan State has 27 NCAA Tournament appearances (more than Wisconsin), 30 NCAA Tournament victories (more than anyone below them, sans Maine (tied with 30)), and 11 Frozen Fours (more than anyone below them, sans Harvard (13) and Maine (tied with 11)). Throw in a bunch of CCHA titles (and a few WCHA titles), and of course their three national titles, and the Spartans have the hardware to hang with anyone outside the Big 7. They are slipping though. Unless they turn things around, I would not be surprised to see MSU lose their grip on the 8 spot by the end of the decade.

                        Originally posted by LynahFan View Post
                        Not sure how any of MSU’s championship teams could be worse that Yale, who squeaked into the tourney as PWR #15 due to a lack o conference tournament upsets (IIRC).
                        Michigan State's 1965-1966 team is the lowest ranked national champion of all time (at #611 overall per my rankings). They were barely a .500 team (16-13-0), with a losing conference record (9-11-0). Yale's 2012-2013 national title squad was at least 10 games above .500, although still the second-lowest ranked champion (at #502). Michigan State's 2006-2007 team was also in the bottom ten for champions (at #389), but their 1985-1986 title squad was pretty good overall (#91).
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                          I may have some down time soon to complete HEA decade summaries. :-)

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                            Well, I was able to input the data from this season into the formula. Obviously, no huge risers/fallers (points wise) given the lack of Conference Tournaments and the NCAA Tournament, but still some changes. I will probably just post the entire list at once, but I'll give it a few weeks.
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                            • Originally posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
                              Well, I was able to input the data from this season into the formula. Obviously, no huge risers/fallers (points wise) given the lack of Conference Tournaments and the NCAA Tournament, but still some changes. I will probably just post the entire list at once, but I'll give it a few weeks.
                              And, I still want to get you the HEA decadal writeups pre-2019/2020 season, FS23.

                              Also, a shout out to you in this thread for the really fine postseason tournament simulations that you ran on the other thread, which really helped us get through part of this diffucult time.

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