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Future Considerations assessment of UNH Commit Max Gildon,
A two-way defender in the Ryan McDonagh mold…this big wing-spanned blueliner is just scratching the surface of his ability…the big Texan is a minute-muncher who can contribute at both ends of the ice…a steadying presence in his own zone…strong and physical, not afraid to flex his muscle and willing to play it nasty if required…pins his man and does not let him back into the play…generates decent speed and keeps his gaps tight because of his reach and skating…handles the puck well, although not overly flashy or very creative offensively…can play in all situations…plays a strong transition game, moving the puck quickly and accurately up to his forwards…does not back down from a battle…his point shot is improving with added strength…has loads of room to grow, but also the potential to be a difference-maker at the NHL level.
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Gildon is Souza's second best 'get' to date - and perhaps the most important considering position and arrival time. Very good news...
Glowing article from his initial commitment to Wisconsin. His star has faded a bit as his development has not been as rapid as hoped - but loads of potential are still inside this kid.
http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/college-hockey-recruiting-ncaa/2016/2/29/11135838/max-gildon-commits-to-wisconsin
USHR analysis of a 14-year old Gildon...
https://www.ushr.com/news/20131018/4980?label=Tier+I+Elite+Showcase+ReviewLast edited by Dan; 02-25-2017, 02:44 PM.Live Free or Die!!
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Originally posted by Dan View PostGildon is Souza's second best 'get' to date - and perhaps the most important considering position and arrival time. Very good news...
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Originally posted by herbst20 View PostEspecially with him having a brother who is going to be very good as well. His brother is a '01 Forward
http://www.thescoutingnews.com/index.php/article/show/69919Last edited by Dan; 02-25-2017, 03:04 PM.Live Free or Die!!
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Max Gildon, a 6'3", 187 lbs., left-shot defenseman for the US NTDP U18, is ranked #76 among North American skaters in the NHL Central Scouting Service's Midterm rankings. He played youth hockey with the Dallas Stars Elite Hockey Club along with fellow #UNH commit Marek Wazny. The plan is for him to enroll at UNH in the Fall of 2017.
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Originally posted by Dan View PostYes, grab the brother too and then momentum is really rolling down hill...The Souza record:
15-16 10th place
16-17 10th place
17-18 11th place
18-19 8th place
19-20 9th place
20-21 10th place
21-22 9th place
22-23 10th place
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Originally posted by C-H-C View PostMax Gildon, a 6'3", 187 lbs., left-shot defenseman for the US NTDP U18, is ranked #76 among North American skaters in the NHL Central Scouting Service's Midterm rankings. He played youth hockey with the Dallas Stars Elite Hockey Club along with fellow #UNH commit Marek Wazny. The plan is for him to enroll at UNH in the Fall of 2017.I'm just here for the hockey...
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2017
Sr.Salvaggio--Sr.McNicholas---Jr.Vela
Sr.Eiserman--So.Blackburn----So.Grasso
So.BVR-------Jr.Nazarian------Fr.C.Kelleher
Sr.C.Miller ----So.Fregona-----Fr.MacAdams
Fr.Cipollone--Jr.Cefalu--------So.Sacco
Sr.Marks-----So.Wyse
Fr.Maass----Fr.Gildon
Sr.Chanter---Jr.Dawson
Fr.J.Miller ----Fr.Darcy
Sr.Boyd???----So.Nonis
2018
Sr.Nazarian--Jr.Blackburn------Jr.Grasso
Fr.________--Fr.Crookshank---Sr.Vela
Jr.BVR--------So.C.Kelleher----Jr.Fregona
Fr.Esposito---Sr.C.Miller-------So.MacAdams
So.Cipollone--Sr.Cefalu-------Jr.Sacco
Jr.Wyse----So.Gildon
So.Maass---So.J.Miller
Sr.Dawson-----Fr.Green
So.Darcy----Jr.Nonis
Fr.Verrier or Bahn
2019
So.________--So.Crookshank---Jr.MacAdams
Fr.Wazny------Jr.Blackburn----Sr.Grasso
Jr.BVR---------So.C.Kelleher----Sr.Fregona
So.Esposito----Fr.________-----Fr.________
Jr.Cipollone--Fr._________-------Sr.Sacco
Jr.Gildon----Sr.Wyse
Jr.Maass----Jr.J.Miller
So.Green----Fr.Bahn
Jr.Darcy----Sr.Nonis
Fr.Verrier---Last edited by NCAA watcher; 02-25-2017, 04:58 PM.The Souza record:
15-16 10th place
16-17 10th place
17-18 11th place
18-19 8th place
19-20 9th place
20-21 10th place
21-22 9th place
22-23 10th place
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Originally posted by NCAA watcher View PostWas thinking of Alex Limoges up front.
What do you make of ten D next year? I noticed your question marks next to Boyd and also wonder if this means his issues are career threatening. Ten is a lot, but Gildon is a massive add so you have to do it. Might this change plans for Maass? Even MN HS is a big jump. You like him more than Miller?Live Free or Die!!
Miami University '03
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http://unhhockeyblog.blogspot.com/20...o-unh.html?m=1
Maass: "I will be enrolling as a freshman next fall (2017) and will be joining the team for the upcoming season"
Benton Maass and Elk River HS lost in the Minnesota Sectin 8AA playoffs today. Maass will play the remainder of the season with the Fairbanks Ice Dogs. They're in 3rd place in the NAHL Midwest Division.
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Originally posted by C-H-C View PostRyan Gaulin is a 5'10", 160 lbs., forward/defenseman. The junior at Berwick Academy scored 9 goals and 16 assists in 30 New England Prep School hockey games. He formerly played at St. Thomas Aquinas High School in Dover, NH. He's from Kingston, NH.Sworn Enemy of the Perpetually Offended
Montreal Expos Forever ...
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Originally posted by Dan View PostIs this a comp for Michael Gildon??
A linemate of Kelleher at TriCity, so perhaps there's a relationship there. If we are finally seeing a typical new boss situation -- see below -- we might have room to offer him a spot next year, and he would be a big help for next and also for 2018, when there is a bigger need for an impact kid on the top lines.
What do you make of ten D next year? I noticed your question marks next to Boyd and also wonder if this means his issues are career threatening. Ten is a lot, but Gildon is a massive add so you have to do it. Might this change plans for Maass? Even MN HS is a big jump. You like him more than Miller?
Given that this is how it usually happens, I was very surprised that Souza had not already brought in many decently talented guys who could compete for spots and have a prospect of being top 3 line guys. Not only did they not bring in a lot of volume, they actually underspent their scholarship money (just a rough calculation), with Foegele, Poturalski, Ryczek and Masonius money coming of the books and scholarships being given only to two new guys (Dawson, Wyse). Instead, they were very lean this year, and the roster has lots of limited to none-scholarship kids like Cefalu, Nonis, Sacco, Miller or partial kids like Boyd, Salvaggio, Jamie Hill. There should be lots of money available. So combine the availability, with the need for competition and depth, and we are finally seeing something closer to a usual model of Souza bringing in his guys.
Speaking of Tri-City and Texas, how about Jace Foskey and Michael Gildon (report from USHR last summer's Select 15 camp)
Michael Gildon (#8 Teal), 6’0.75”/174, L, Dallas Stars Elite 16U – Big power forward is the younger brother of NTDP’s Max Gildon. Kelowna 4th round pick in in this spring’s WHL Bantam Draft. (3-0-3)
And one final return to recruiting, as Dan mentioned then, Scott Morrow's son is a top 8th grader (huh?).The Souza record:
15-16 10th place
16-17 10th place
17-18 11th place
18-19 8th place
19-20 9th place
20-21 10th place
21-22 9th place
22-23 10th place
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Watcher -
I didn't realize Limogues had decommited. I hope they do go after him. UNH has seemed to deem decommits as persona non grata for years - and I would have assumed this would be a non-starter. Until yesterday's unexpected pick-up. I hope Souza and UNH will keep this option open and open up others (Euros). Especially at this stage with rebuilding ASAP a huge priority...
Speaking of Europe and re-building - of the two freshmen Finns at BC, Bjorkvist at PC and DU's Borgstrom, only one of them was committed at this time last season. So if imagine there are options available again of UNH was so inclined. If you haven't seen Borgstrom's goal for DU last night (his 18th), google it immediately...Live Free or Die!!
Miami University '03
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I've always been aware of the plan for Maass, Miller and Darcy to come next season. We are all also well aware that UNH has changed plans in the past, often making the wrong decision. That Gildon was even available had to be a surprise and taking him next year is a no-brainer.
Watchers take is a good one and makes a lot of sense, IF UNH thinks Gildon, Maass and Miller would all be expected to see serious minutes next season OR will be recruited over in that fifth season down the road (Darcy is 20, and must come next fall).
Gildon, to me, is a top-four lock immediately. Perhaps even top-two. Maass' and Miller's immediate PT are less certain. I noticed, Watcher left Miller out of a projected top six. I have him in mine, with questions on Maass due to his limited junior career.
UNH is desperate on D - but if either or both come and do not play right away is that the right choice? If UNH thinks one or the other might sit much of next season, but could be a top-pair contributor 3-4 years from now would they be better served playing consistently for a junior team next winter?
What are people's thoughts on their immediate versus long term potential - taking future D recruiting into account of course.
Next fall, you have to think Marks, Wyse are locks to play regularly. Gildon has to be in the line-up. So that leaves three spots with Chanter and Dawson returning as regular contributors and Boyd taking a regular shift early this year, as well as the other three freshman. Six skaters competing for three spots.
Watcher - this is where you are likely exactly right in why there will be so many D on next years roster. Is this what you want to see? Think is the best recruiting management? Or would you do things differently?
Are Maass, Miller or Darcy ready to and capable of unseating much more experienced upperclassmen? It only gets more complicated if Darcy, who has struggled to match initial expectations upon his commitment, can be who Borek thought he would be. Is the increased competition and minor 2017-18 upgrade worth wasted eligibility? That depends A LOT on who they add in the next few years of recruiting.
Will Umile be interested at all in playing for the future, playing perhaps more talented but developing and mistake prone freshman ahead of dependable but deficient and maxed out upperclass D to assist future teams D units?
As alluded to above - and evidenced by Gildon - deferring risks losing recruits. You also saw Poturalski and Blackburn encouraged to defer - Poturalski took off and UNH got two years out of him instead of three. Might Blackburn do the same?
Knodel and Agosta were both 20, but assuming they were 19 would they have been better served by redshirting (working out and practicing with the team) or playing juniors? Redshirting would be an option again, of course - but UNH would risk losing them with eligibility remaining like they did with both Knodel and Agosta.
It raises a lot of questions without knowing exactly the coaches opinions of these players...Last edited by Dan; 02-26-2017, 09:45 PM.Live Free or Die!!
Miami University '03
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