Originally posted by BobbyBrady
Crosby probably wouldn't even be on BC's top two lines next year
On the BU thread there has been some talk about how BUís attendance has been decreasing the past few seasons and this season its average is below 3,000. Three years ago there was also discussion about declining attendance and I researched every teamís attendance as far back as I could find. For most that was back to the 2001-02 season from the USCHO website, but for some I found information back to the mid-fifties. I created a spreadsheet then which I have updated with attendance through games played last night, 12 December.
I highlighted highest known, lowest known and lowest known in current building (I may have missed a few of these) average attendance (light green for highest, pink for lowest and pale yellow for lowest current). Five teams currently have their lowest ever average attendance to date this season (not including UAA, which moved to a smaller arena, or SLU, which is temporarily playing in a smaller arena) while another ten currently have their lowest current building average attendance, while just three have a new highest average to date. Furthermore another 22 teams have seen average attendance decreases this season, for 37 having declining attendance from last season, 22 which have had declining attendance for two or more consecutive seasons, plus UAA and SLU (which have each had declining attendance for the previous 2 and 3 consecutive seasons). Average attendance for 45 teams is lower than it was 5 seasons ago (including UAA and SLU), while it is higher for just 15 teams. Overall combined average attendance is down for the ninth consecutive season and is at an all-time low.
My kids tell me they would rather watch somebody play video games on Youtube than watch sports in person or on television.
Slap Shot - 444 might want to consider a restraining order.
dggoddard - Minnesota is THE ELITE Program in all of college hockey.
wasmania - you have to be the very best to get ice time with the great gophers!
I wonder to what extent the wide availability of streamed games affects attendance. I'm an old fart myself, but I often find myself streaming games at home vs. traveling to them these days.
At root, is watching a video game being played all that different from watching an athletic competition being played? You're still watching experts performing a series challenging tasks to advance a particular goal, using skill born from extensive practice and continuous refinement. People have always done thus, from gladiator bouts to jousting competitions to chess matches.
And please don't be dismissive of "a bunch of geeks". That's as backward and as unhelpful as chalking hockey up to "a bunch of jocks playing games".
As a BG guy, and thus a MAC fan, one omission stuck out: Kent State. I donít remember the lifespan of their program, but Nancy Cartwright was the universityís president who killed that program. Years later, as president at Bowling Green, she tried to do the same thing to Falcon hockey. BGís saving grace was that they had, and obviously still have, a strong history and influential alumni. I remember the joy surrounding Bowling Green hockey when Cartwright retired.
I donít mean to nitpick! Kent State hockey certainly isnít something even a diehard college hockey guy is expected to recall. Lol
Generation Z, which emerged from the womb with some sort of device in their slimy little hands, are today's undergrads. And because their life experiences are almost exclusively video and social media (and the shorter attention spans that come with it), they are indifferent--at best--to spectator sports, especially in urban centers like Boston, where there are almost limitless things competing for their time, attention, and dad's $$$$.
And it's not just college hockey, or college sports in general, that finds itself dealing with lots of empty seats. The Washington Redskins have been selling seats for as little as $14!! Several folks I know in the sports marketing biz tell me that the revenue model at the pro level is shifting to maximize revenue from advertising (look for more European-style uniforms festooned with corporate logos) and corporate-sponsored luxury boxes and club seats (with all of the pricey food and other amenities that come with them). The cheap seats apparently have become less important in the revenue calculus.
The empty seats in college hockey arenas notwithstanding, games that some consider "experiences" continue to do well. Case in point: Northeastern, which ranks toward the bottom in Hockey East attendance will sell up to ten full student sections at TD Garden for the Beanpot. Alums turn out in droves. BU and BC too. Still hard to find Harvard fans. And events that don't depend on student attendance also seem to do well: Red Hot Hockey (BU-Cornell at Madison Sq Garden) drew more than 15K. And the Friendship Four, in Belfast, Northern Ireland, sold out the championship game (about 8K) and drew about 6K for each of the preliminary games.
Brave new sports marketing world.
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As for Kent State hockey, I started researching the history of the now defunct and lesser know varsity hockey programs many years ago, starting with the west coast teams of the thirties: USC, UCLA, Occidental, California and Gonzaga to name some.Then two years ago I starting researching programs from the seventies and eighties, including Kent State. I gave the information I found about these teams' games, including Kent State, to Adam Wooden which he put online on CHN. However, the main source of my research for KSU, The Daily Kent Stater, usually didn't have box scores and the weekend recaps in the newspaper usually didn't mention attendance (nor was I actively researching attendance, just game dates, opponents, locations and results).
BTW, KSU the hockey program gained varsity status beginning with the 1980-81 season (when they played as a DII team) and dropped it after the 1993-94 season (after 2 seasons in the CCHA).
Student indifference to attendance at sporting events is a perennial problem now for most schools, but I have to say that Minnesota always had issues here, and not just with hockey.
I think the first step to improving attendance should be dropping the additional per-seat donations for season ticket holders. I understand they have been lowered recently, but they should be completely abolished.
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