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    Originally posted by joecct View Post
    And Fox News coming in with the most current clickbait on a story that occurred in...2010, per the date on the ticket.
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    • Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
      And Fox News coming in with the most current clickbait on a story that occurred in...2010, per the date on the ticket.
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      • Re: Cars: 2015

        I have started thinking about a new car and I am absolutely dreading it. What was it, Saturn, that had the no-haggling policy? Why can't they all do that? I think I keep my cars for 120k miles just so I don't have to go through the buying process.

        I have a 2009 Sentra. Thinking about Mazda 3, Nissan Altima, or maybe Subaru Impreza. Had Chevys most of my life, but got a Nissan last time because my hockey gear did not fit in the trunk of the Chevy that I liked. I've been happy with the Nissan, but have not heard good things about the newer Sentras.

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          Originally posted by jen View Post
          I have started thinking about a new car and I am absolutely dreading it. What was it, Saturn, that had the no-haggling policy? Why can't they all do that? I think I keep my cars for 120k miles just so I don't have to go through the buying process.

          I have a 2009 Sentra. Thinking about Mazda 3, Nissan Altima, or maybe Subaru Impreza. Had Chevys most of my life, but got a Nissan last time because my hockey gear did not fit in the trunk of the Chevy that I liked. I've been happy with the Nissan, but have not heard good things about the newer Sentras.
          Some dealerships do no-haggling. The dealership I went to a year ago for my car basically had that. "We deal with maneuvering in the hundreds, maybe, definitely not the thousands." And they had good prices to begin with, so it made sense. From what I had found, my car price was already about 2K lower than normal market price for the vehicle, no matter the vehicle, on average.
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          • Originally posted by jen View Post
            I have started thinking about a new car and I am absolutely dreading it. What was it, Saturn, that had the no-haggling policy? Why can't they all do that? I think I keep my cars for 120k miles just so I don't have to go through the buying process.

            I have a 2009 Sentra. Thinking about Mazda 3, Nissan Altima, or maybe Subaru Impreza. Had Chevys most of my life, but got a Nissan last time because my hockey gear did not fit in the trunk of the Chevy that I liked. I've been happy with the Nissan, but have not heard good things about the newer Sentras.
            Scion had the no-haggling. Large reason why my Dad initially got into them, and my family ended up having 4 over the course of 6 years (Dad x2, Mom and Sister, and I kept the first one my Dad owned).

            There is a guy who offers a car buying service near me in Florida, where he does the haggling for a small fee. Pretty neat.

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            • Re: Cars: 2015

              Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
              Some dealerships do no-haggling. The dealership I went to a year ago for my car basically had that. "We deal with maneuvering in the hundreds, maybe, definitely not the thousands." And they had good prices to begin with, so it made sense. From what I had found, my car price was already about 2K lower than normal market price for the vehicle, no matter the vehicle, on average.
              Same. Bought the Civic from a no-haggle dealership. The cost was a few hundred over list price online. They were more than willing to help with anything I wanted prior to purchase - I drove 3 different models of Honda, they never called me (only communication via email since I work nights and sleep all day), let me take the model I was likely going to buy home for the weekend for a prolonged test drive.

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                Originally posted by bostonewe View Post
                Same. Bought the Civic from a no-haggle dealership. The cost was a few hundred over list price online. They were more than willing to help with anything I wanted prior to purchase - I drove 3 different models of Honda, they never called me (only communication via email since I work nights and sleep all day), let me take the model I was likely going to buy home for the weekend for a prolonged test drive.
                This, too. The dealership I went to had a "Drive 200 miles, can return with no questions asked" policy. Dealership was about 40 miles away. Asked if I wanted a test drive, I declined, said I would just drive it home (good mix of highway/city roads) and if I didn't like it, I'd just drive back.
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                • Re: Cars: 2015

                  The haggling tactic I've heard:

                  Figure out exactly what you want, make, model, trim level, color, options, every detail.

                  Then call every dealership in the area that sells it. Inform them of all the details of the car you want. Tell them you're calling X other dealerships as well, and whoever can quote you the lowest price out the door by COB Friday gets the sale.

                  Most dealerships will play ball.
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                  • Originally posted by Twitch Boy View Post
                    The haggling tactic I've heard:

                    Figure out exactly what you want, make, model, trim level, color, options, every detail.

                    Then call every dealership in the area that sells it. Inform them of all the details of the car you want. Tell them you're calling X other dealerships as well, and whoever can quote you the lowest price out the door by COB Friday gets the sale.

                    Most dealerships will play ball.
                    I have a buddy who was a salesman at a no-haggle dealership selling Mazdas for a while. I was surprised when he told me how many cars he sold after straight-up telling people that they could probably get the same car cheaper somewhere else. He's a REALLY good salesman though. He sells Bentleys and Maseratis now. Sold a Ferrari to Boogaard. Still doesn't know how he fit.
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                      Originally posted by Twitch Boy View Post
                      The haggling tactic I've heard:

                      Figure out exactly what you want, make, model, trim level, color, options, every detail.

                      Then call every dealership in the area that sells it. Inform them of all the details of the car you want. Tell them you're calling X other dealerships as well, and whoever can quote you the lowest price out the door by COB Friday gets the sale.

                      Most dealerships will play ball.
                      They'll still try to f-ck you during negotiations, though.
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                      • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                        They'll still try to f-ck you during negotiations, though.
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                          I offered $500 under the TrueCar price and they countered $200 higher than my offer. I was happy and accepted.
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                          • Re: Cars: 2015

                            Originally posted by Twitch Boy View Post
                            The haggling tactic I've heard:

                            Figure out exactly what you want, make, model, trim level, color, options, every detail.

                            Then call every dealership in the area that sells it. Inform them of all the details of the car you want. Tell them you're calling X other dealerships as well, and whoever can quote you the lowest price out the door by COB Friday gets the sale.

                            Most dealerships will play ball.
                            That's one way to do it.

                            I had a sort of graph that I drew up from websites that cross-referenced size of down payment, interest rate (and length of loan) vs total price of vehicle, which gave me various monthly payments. The salesperson saw that I had that info (not the actual numbers, just that I had a sheet) and realized that I was going to walk if I didn't like the numbers. She was not a hard-seller at all, mind you, but that gave her the impression that I came totally prepared and did my research. She didn't try to mess around with me.
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                              Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
                              That's one way to do it.

                              I had a sort of graph that I drew up from websites that cross-referenced size of down payment, interest rate (and length of loan) vs total price of vehicle, which gave me various monthly payments. The salesperson saw that I had that info (not the actual numbers, just that I had a sheet) and realized that I was going to walk if I didn't like the numbers. She was not a hard-seller at all, mind you, but that gave her the impression that I came totally prepared and did my research. She didn't try to mess around with me.
                              This is the "four-square" worksheet car dealers use to rip you off and how to work around it:

                              https://consumerist.com/2007/03/30/d...ow-to-beat-it/
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                              • Re: Cars: 2015

                                Originally posted by Twitch Boy View Post
                                This is the "four-square" worksheet car dealers use to rip you off and how to work around it:

                                https://consumerist.com/2007/03/30/d...ow-to-beat-it/
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                                Let them know the numbers mattered with the loan. Simply put, if I didn't like them, I was walking. Had been scouting this model (various years) for a couple months, this was the leading one, so convince me to not look elsewhere.

                                Basically the only thing I was willing to change on the model I have was the color. If it wasn't yellow, it was going to be black or charcoal. Yes, I'm picky on color. They BRIEFLY mentioned the cherry red Camaro (that was also a slight upgrade in price) on the lot, and I immediately stopped that sorta talk. I was there to look at the yellow one, period.
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