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  • Re: Cars: 2015

    Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
    You try telling an American to wait.

    “My Apple Watch has to be charged daily?!”
    Every Tesla owner has to wait now, I guess they accept that as I haven't read of any house burning as result of a Tesla charging
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      It would be far more dangerous to charge more rapidly. 10 hours should be a comfortably safe rate (roughly equal to the rate of discharge). Much faster than that and I would worry.
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        Apparently around 150,000 people have paid a deposit on the delorean el Camino: https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/23/cars/...ers/index.html

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          Originally posted by LynahFan View Post
          It would be far more dangerous to charge more rapidly. 10 hours should be a comfortably safe rate (roughly equal to the rate of discharge). Much faster than that and I would worry.
          Tesla has a charging algorithm built into the car. I doubt you can charge it faster if you want to.

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            Just so - having a “charge control unit” effectively built into the battery is the only responsible way to sell lithium ion. You need to individually monitor the health and charge state of each cell and regulate the current to each one to ensure that they are charging evenly. And of course thermal monitoring is a given. Connecting unregulated voltage directly to the cell terminals would be a certain call to 911.
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              Originally posted by LynahFan View Post
              Just so - having a “charge control unit” effectively built into the battery is the only responsible way to sell lithium ion. You need to individually monitor the health and charge state of each cell and regulate the current to each one to ensure that they are charging evenly. And of course thermal monitoring is a given. Connecting unregulated voltage directly to the cell terminals would be a certain call to 911.
              Darwin awards happen all the time not sure how thats Teslas issue. My buddy has model W, he sets it to charge into the 90s not to 100% as its better for the battery pack. Its like a child to him
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                How complex is charging on these vehicles? Isn't it just a "plug it in and leave it be" deal with them? Granted there are different ways to charge (normal in-home 110v, enhanced 220v in-home, Superchargers at various locations), but I thought the car does all the work.

                At my new job I need to charge forklifts whenever they are not in use. The system is simple and takes less than 30 seconds to plug/unplug and is very safe/moron resistant.
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                  It’s only that simple for the user because the engineers designed in a very complex control system that does all the work.
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                    Originally posted by LynahFan View Post
                    It’s only that simple for the user because the engineers designed in a very complex control system that does all the work.
                    That's what I'm saying. I don't understand the belief that users are going to burn down their house or electrocute themselves with these systems. Sure, accidents CAN happen. But overall they will be super low count.
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                      It’s because there is so little margin for error. One uncaught bug and it can be catastrophic. It’s an extraordinary amount of energy stored in a fairly new medium. Storing gasoline and moving it from a tank to a car doesn’t require a complicated set of algorithms and safeguards. Those that are designed into the system are well-tested and have been around for a long time.
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                        Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                        It’s because there is so little margin for error. One uncaught bug and it can be catastrophic. It’s an extraordinary amount of energy stored in a fairly new medium. Storing gasoline and moving it from a tank to a car doesn’t require a complicated set of algorithms and safeguards. Those that are designed into the system are well-tested and have been around for a long time.
                        Correct. Every new thing that comes out for cars, my mechanic brother has to take a new class on it. When electric vehicles first came out, the first thing he was told was not to touch Spot A and Spot B at the same time, otherwise he's literally dead. In the long run, this is really really new technology being applied for the masses, and there is a lot that can go wrong if not designed correctly.
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                          Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                          It’s because there is so little margin for error. One uncaught bug and it can be catastrophic. It’s an extraordinary amount of energy stored in a fairly new medium. Storing gasoline and moving it from a tank to a car doesn’t require a complicated set of algorithms and safeguards. Those that are designed into the system are well-tested and have been around for a long time.
                          Moving gasoline from a tank to a car does involve safeguards, NEC has a whole chapter on Gasoline equipment, NFPA 30 has multiple sections on gasoline safety. DOT has a special license for drivers of gas tankers.
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                            Originally posted by walrus View Post
                            Moving gasoline to a tank to car does involve safeguards, NEC has a whole chapter on Gasoline equipment, NFPA 30 has multiple sections on gasoline safety. DOT has a special license for drivers of gas tankers.
                            Yes, and I specifically mentioned that gas has those. I’m just saying they were developed over decades. We haven’t had electric cars in a majority of households for 50 years yet.

                            The NEC has plenty of these guidelines. I get that. But now we’re dealing with extremely high amperage being put into people’s homes and actively used daily in an entirely new medium. I’m not saying this is like handing people a flask of hydrofluoric acid. But this isn’t as mundane as we would like to think.
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                                Cripes.
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