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    Wisconsin Hockey Recruiting Vol. XXXIV: Go pick me out a winner, Strand

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    Re: Wisconsin Hockey Recruiting Vol. XXXIV: Go pick me out a winner, Strand

    Nice thread start, Chuck, thanks for posting the charts.


    On the D3 transfer thing-- I think your mistake was in not reading the same web page I did. The one that lists Football, Basketball, and Baseball as the only not eligible D1 sports for a one time transfer exception. It leaves off Men's Hockey for some reason. If the NCAA and everyone else would just read the same page I did there would be no problem!

    As it stands the only real way is if a student athlete has earned a degree and still has eligibility left. So that probably moves the chances for something like that happening from my original 1% thinking down to .01 %. On the other hand I have a 14 year old daughter that I feel could probably earn a degree in philosophy or something over the summer.

    XYZ points out that transfers also can lose a year of eligibility. That is true, although it depends. In some cases the year in residence can be counted as a red shirt year, preserving actual playing years.

    In any case I still see a much bigger need at a D yet this year than anything. Even if things go well injury wise this year, with Berkovitz a bit of a question mark yet for next year, having another D with a year under their belt can only be a positive I'd think.

    DPlaya brought up Brett Gruber as a prospect to pursue. I like that fact that he's a goal scorer and not just a set up guy. On the other hand at 5'7" he's still a bit of a question mark. Small guys can certainly play, (Grimaldi, Johhny Hockey, etc.) But for everyone of those guys there's quite a few that can't cut it at the next level physically. Anecdotal, but if you look into the top 20 or so BCHL scorers that moved on to NCAA last year, the ones that were really able to contribute were the guys that were 6'+ and 185# +. Guys like Landon Smith with 31pts. @ Q and Brad McClure with 29 pts @ Mn. St. last year. Some of the smaller guys had a harder time, which isn't to say they won't be good down the line. Cameron Hughes has the skills but he struggled a lot against bigger stronger players. He's going to be a star when his body catches up. (Hopefully this year) Small guys don't have the luxury of making as big of physical gains, so in a way, they have to be good enough to compete at the next level from the start. Is Gruber that kind of guy? I have no idea. But he certainly has been impressive this last year. Eaves has said he's going to revamp his recruiting philosophy a bit. Be interesting to see if that would include a guy like Gruber who it seems to me, wouldn't normally be his type of prospect.
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    Re: Wisconsin Hockey Recruiting Vol. XXXIV: Go pick me out a winner, Strand

    Licari was a beast and he was a little guy. Same thing with Patrick Johnson. Not afraid to mix it up.

    I think those kind of energy guys like that are great. I don't know why size is important, it's attitude and work ethic.

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    Re: Wisconsin Hockey Recruiting Vol. XXXIV: Go pick me out a winner, Strand

    Nick Licari was a tank. Patty Johnson fell off a cliff imo when he got injured. Was never the same after.

    Really appreciate the recruiting charts being posted! Thanks Chuck!
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    Re: Wisconsin Hockey Recruiting Vol. XXXIV: Go pick me out a winner, Strand

    Brett Gruber is not a little energy guy.

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    Re: Wisconsin Hockey Recruiting Vol. XXXIV: Go pick me out a winner, Strand

    Quote Originally Posted by WiscTJK View Post
    Licari was a beast and he was a little guy. Same thing with Patrick Johnson. Not afraid to mix it up.

    I think those kind of energy guys like that are great. I don't know why size is important, it's attitude and work ethic.
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    Re: Wisconsin Hockey Recruiting Vol. XXXIV: Go pick me out a winner, Strand

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Schwartz View Post
    Brett Gruber is not a little energy guy.
    Sounds like just the kind of guy I would like to watch.

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    Re: Wisconsin Hockey Recruiting Vol. XXXIV: Go pick me out a winner, Strand

    Quote Originally Posted by WiscTJK View Post
    Sounds like just the kind of guy I would like to watch.
    I read that as he's not a little, energy guy.

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    Re: Wisconsin Hockey Recruiting Vol. XXXIV: Go pick me out a winner, Strand

    Sorry I have been out of things for a few weeks on vacation...this Will Johnson kid, how good is he?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf the Red View Post
    Sorry I have been out of things for a few weeks on vacation...this Will Johnson kid, how good is he?
    A solid find for this close to the season.

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    Re: Wisconsin Hockey Recruiting Vol. XXXIV: Go pick me out a winner, Strand

    Quote Originally Posted by UWisco View Post
    A solid find for this close to the season.
    I assumed that much, especially if minnesota had offered for 2016. I just want to know if there is a chance he makes an impact ASAP.

    And how are there still 2 spots to fill....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf the Red View Post
    I assumed that much, especially if minnesota had offered for 2016. I just want to know if there is a chance he makes an impact ASAP.

    And how are there still 2 spots to fill....
    He'll be in the loop right away.

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    Re: Wisconsin Hockey Recruiting Vol. XXXIV: Go pick me out a winner, Strand

    Here's a name: Mattias Goransson. I can't find where he's actually signed a NLI, which is of course the key, but he's committed to UMass- Lowell. 20 year old from Sweden, 6' 3" 195, played for JB Bittner at Tri City last year. 7g 21a in 57 gp. Being from Sweden he's probably very comfortable on a big sheet of ice. Perhaps the kind of D insurance policy UW could use?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wisko McBadgerton View Post
    Here's a name: Mattias Goransson. I can't find where he's actually signed a NLI, which is of course the key, but he's committed to UMass- Lowell. 20 year old from Sweden, 6' 3" 195, played for JB Bittner at Tri City last year. 7g 21a in 57 gp. Being from Sweden he's probably very comfortable on a big sheet of ice. Perhaps the kind of D insurance policy UW could use?
    I'd be very surpised if he hasn't already signed his LOI. If you're looking at potential committed players, think Ivy and/or kids committed for 2016 that can be brought in early. 2015 commits are all signed right now.
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    Re: Wisconsin Hockey Recruiting Vol. XXXIV: Go pick me out a winner, Strand

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Schwartz View Post
    I'd be very surpised if he hasn't already signed his LOI. If you're looking at potential committed players, think Ivy and/or kids committed for 2016 that can be brought in early. 2015 commits are all signed right now.
    Right, but I tend to specialize in suggestions that are at best, 1% possibilities. Then if I ever hit on one I gloat for years about what a genius I am. Nobody really pays attention to the 99 times I was wrong anyway.

    Btw- Do you guys remember that one time I predicted Troy Ward would be the next Caps coach?
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    Re: Wisconsin Hockey Recruiting Vol. XXXIV: Go pick me out a winner, Strand

    If there is going to be any last minute stealing, and in case anyone is wondering, here's an (unverified) list of the Ivy commits for 15-16:

    Brown University 2015-16 BRINK, Alex RW Boston Junior Bruins (USPHL) 06/01/15
    Brown University 2015-16 SCHOO, Brady LD Eden Prairie HS Eagles (MN-HS) 06/01/15
    Brown University 2015-16 MARCHIN, Tom LW Muskegon Lumberjacks (USHL) 10/07/14
    Brown University 2015-16 SCHERER, Will LD Topeka Roadrunners (NAHL) 09/22/14
    Brown University 2015-16 DOHERTY, Tim LW Boston Junior Bruins (USPHL) 11/06/13
    Brown University 2015-16 WYNNE, Conner RD Trail Smoke Eaters (BCHL) 07/08/13

    Cornell University 2015-16 SMITH, Brendan LD Omaha Lancers (USHL) 10/29/14
    Cornell University 2015-16 SHORE, Trent RD Cumberland Grads (CCHL) 09/26/14
    Cornell University 2015-16 STARRETT, Beau LW 10/25/13
    Cornell University 2015-16 HOFFMAN, Corey C Odessa Jackalopes (NAHL) 07/08/13
    Cornell University 2015-16 VANDERLAAN, Mitchell LW Fort McMurray Oil Barons (AJHL) 03/28/13
    Cornell University 2015-16 ANGELLO, Anthony C Omaha Lancers (USHL) 12/10/12
    Cornell University 2015-16 OTT, Donovan RW Wenatchee Wild (NAHL) 09/02/12
    Cornell University 2015-16 NUTTLE, Matt RD Sioux Falls Stampede (USHL)

    Dartmouth College 2015-16 ROTH, Cameron LD Cornwall Colts (CCHL) 08/12/14
    Dartmouth College 2015-16 TOOR, Karan RD Prince George Spruce Kings (BCHL) 04/14/14
    Dartmouth College 2015-16 JASIEK, Alex LW Cedar Rapids RoughRiders (USHL) 07/09/13
    Dartmouth College 2015-16 YAU, Connor LD Youngstown Phantoms (USHL) 06/26/13
    Dartmouth College 2015-16 ERNSTING, Jonathan C Chicago Steel (USHL) 07/19/12

    Harvard University 2015-16 OLSON, Jacob LD Hill/Murray HS Pioneers (MN-HS) 05/27/14
    Harvard University 2015-16 DONATO, Ryan C Dexter PS (NEDI) 01/30/14
    Harvard University 2015-16 ZERTER, Lewis C Penticton Vees (BCHL) 12/20/13
    Harvard University 2015-16 FLOODSTRAND, Michael RW USA Under 18 Team (NTDP) 09/25/13
    Harvard University 2015-16 SINCLAIR, Adam C St. Andrew's College HS (CISaa) 03/18/13
    Harvard University 2015-16 DOMBROVSKIY, Victor LD Prince George Spruce Kings (BCHL) 09/02/12

    Princeton University 2015-16 TEVES, Josh D Merritt Centennials (BCHL) 12/02/14
    Princeton University 2015-16 RICHE, Alex C Cobourg Cougars (OJHL) 10/21/14
    Princeton University 2015-16 KRYCZKA, Spencer C Camrose Kodiaks (AJHL) 10/06/14
    Princeton University 2015-16 VERONNEAU, Maximilian RW Gloucester Rangers (CCHL) 03/06/14
    Princeton University 2015-16 KUFFNER, Ryan LW Gloucester Rangers (CCHL) 11/28/13

    Yale University 2015-16 HART, Ted C/RW Phillips Exeter Academy PS (NEDI) 03/24/15
    Yale University 2015-16 PIOTROWSKI, John Michael F Sioux Falls Stampede (USHL) 03/02/15
    Yale University 2015-16 SWEEZEY, Billy RD Noble and Greenough PS (NEDI) 02/02/14
    Yale University 2015-16 CURTI, Charlie LD Cedar Rapids RoughRiders (USHL) 12/02/13
    Yale University 2015-16 DEMONTIS, Robbie C Muskegon Lumberjacks (USHL) 10/30/13
    Yale University 2015-16 WALSH, Anthony LD Sioux City Musketeers (USHL) 09/23/13
    Yale University 2015-16 SMITH, Mitchell LW Dubuque Fighting Saints (USHL) 04/09/13
    Yale University 2015-16 SMITH, Evan C Dubuque Fighting Saints (USHL) 04/09/13
    Yale University 2015-16 D'ORSI, William C St. Sebastian's PS (NEDI) 11/27/12
    Yale University 2015-16 AIBEL, Nolan C Tri-City Storm (USHL) 09/19/12
    Yale University 2015-16 TUCKER, Sam G Choate Rosemary PS (NEDI) 07/19/12
    Yale University 2015-16 GAUS, Andrew RW Cedar Rapids RoughRiders (USHL) 06/27/12
    Yale University 2015-16 SNIVELY, Joseph C Sioux City Musketeers (USHL) 05/09/12
    Yale University 2015-16 DINICOLA, Nicholas F Springfield Pics (USPHL)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wisko McBadgerton View Post
    If there is going to be any last minute stealing, and in case anyone is wondering, here's an (unverified) list of the Ivy commits for 15-16:

    Brown University 2015-16 BRINK, Alex RW Boston Junior Bruins (USPHL) 06/01/15
    Brown University 2015-16 SCHOO, Brady LD Eden Prairie HS Eagles (MN-HS) 06/01/15
    Brown University 2015-16 MARCHIN, Tom LW Muskegon Lumberjacks (USHL) 10/07/14
    Brown University 2015-16 SCHERER, Will LD Topeka Roadrunners (NAHL) 09/22/14
    Brown University 2015-16 DOHERTY, Tim LW Boston Junior Bruins (USPHL) 11/06/13
    Brown University 2015-16 WYNNE, Conner RD Trail Smoke Eaters (BCHL) 07/08/13

    Cornell University 2015-16 SMITH, Brendan LD Omaha Lancers (USHL) 10/29/14
    Cornell University 2015-16 SHORE, Trent RD Cumberland Grads (CCHL) 09/26/14
    Cornell University 2015-16 STARRETT, Beau LW 10/25/13
    Cornell University 2015-16 HOFFMAN, Corey C Odessa Jackalopes (NAHL) 07/08/13
    Cornell University 2015-16 VANDERLAAN, Mitchell LW Fort McMurray Oil Barons (AJHL) 03/28/13
    Cornell University 2015-16 ANGELLO, Anthony C Omaha Lancers (USHL) 12/10/12
    Cornell University 2015-16 OTT, Donovan RW Wenatchee Wild (NAHL) 09/02/12
    Cornell University 2015-16 NUTTLE, Matt RD Sioux Falls Stampede (USHL)

    Dartmouth College 2015-16 ROTH, Cameron LD Cornwall Colts (CCHL) 08/12/14
    Dartmouth College 2015-16 TOOR, Karan RD Prince George Spruce Kings (BCHL) 04/14/14
    Dartmouth College 2015-16 JASIEK, Alex LW Cedar Rapids RoughRiders (USHL) 07/09/13
    Dartmouth College 2015-16 YAU, Connor LD Youngstown Phantoms (USHL) 06/26/13
    Dartmouth College 2015-16 ERNSTING, Jonathan C Chicago Steel (USHL) 07/19/12

    Harvard University 2015-16 OLSON, Jacob LD Hill/Murray HS Pioneers (MN-HS) 05/27/14
    Harvard University 2015-16 DONATO, Ryan C Dexter PS (NEDI) 01/30/14
    Harvard University 2015-16 ZERTER, Lewis C Penticton Vees (BCHL) 12/20/13
    Harvard University 2015-16 FLOODSTRAND, Michael RW USA Under 18 Team (NTDP) 09/25/13
    Harvard University 2015-16 SINCLAIR, Adam C St. Andrew's College HS (CISaa) 03/18/13
    Harvard University 2015-16 DOMBROVSKIY, Victor LD Prince George Spruce Kings (BCHL) 09/02/12

    Princeton University 2015-16 TEVES, Josh D Merritt Centennials (BCHL) 12/02/14y
    Princeton University 2015-16 RICHE, Alex C Cobourg Cougars (OJHL) 10/21/14
    Princeton University 2015-16 KRYCZKA, Spencer C Camrose Kodiaks (AJHL) 10/06/14
    Princeton University 2015-16 VERONNEAU, Maximilian RW Gloucester Rangers (CCHL) 03/06/14
    Princeton University 2015-16 KUFFNER, Ryan LW Gloucester Rangers (CCHL) 11/28/13

    Yale University 2015-16 HART, Ted C/RW Phillips Exeter Academy PS (NEDI) 03/24/15
    Yale University 2015-16 PIOTROWSKI, John Michael F Sioux Falls Stampede (USHL) 03/02/15
    Yale University 2015-16 SWEEZEY, Billy RD Noble and Greenough PS (NEDI) 02/02/14
    Yale University 2015-16 CURTI, Charlie LD Cedar Rapids RoughRiders (USHL) 12/02/13
    Yale University 2015-16 DEMONTIS, Robbie C Muskegon Lumberjacks (USHL) 10/30/13
    Yale University 2015-16 WALSH, Anthony LD Sioux City Musketeers (USHL) 09/23/13
    Yale University 2015-16 SMITH, Mitchell LW Dubuque Fighting Saints (USHL) 04/09/13
    Yale University 2015-16 SMITH, Evan C Dubuque Fighting Saints (USHL) 04/09/13
    Yale University 2015-16 D'ORSI, William C St. Sebastian's PS (NEDI) 11/27/12
    Yale University 2015-16 AIBEL, Nolan C Tri-City Storm (USHL) 09/19/12
    Yale University 2015-16 TUCKER, Sam G Choate Rosemary PS (NEDI) 07/19/12
    Yale University 2015-16 GAUS, Andrew RW Cedar Rapids RoughRiders (USHL) 06/27/12
    Yale University 2015-16 SNIVELY, Joseph C Sioux City Musketeers (USHL) 05/09/12
    Yale University 2015-16 DINICOLA, Nicholas F Springfield Pics (USPHL)
    I don't like the idea of poaching players...Eaves has done this at least twice thusfar and it strikes me as lazy and...scummy.

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    I am guessing with the current state of the program the more likely target might be AIC.

    QUOTE=Wisko McBadgerton;6170210]If there is going to be any last minute stealing, and in case anyone is wondering, here's an (unverified) list of the Ivy commits for 15-16:

    Brown University 2015-16 BRINK, Alex RW Boston Junior Bruins (USPHL) 06/01/15
    Brown University 2015-16 SCHOO, Brady LD Eden Prairie HS Eagles (MN-HS) 06/01/15
    Brown University 2015-16 MARCHIN, Tom LW Muskegon Lumberjacks (USHL) 10/07/14
    Brown University 2015-16 SCHERER, Will LD Topeka Roadrunners (NAHL) 09/22/14
    Brown University 2015-16 DOHERTY, Tim LW Boston Junior Bruins (USPHL) 11/06/13
    Brown University 2015-16 WYNNE, Conner RD Trail Smoke Eaters (BCHL) 07/08/13

    Cornell University 2015-16 SMITH, Brendan LD Omaha Lancers (USHL) 10/29/14
    Cornell University 2015-16 SHORE, Trent RD Cumberland Grads (CCHL) 09/26/14
    Cornell University 2015-16 STARRETT, Beau LW 10/25/13
    Cornell University 2015-16 HOFFMAN, Corey C Odessa Jackalopes (NAHL) 07/08/13
    Cornell University 2015-16 VANDERLAAN, Mitchell LW Fort McMurray Oil Barons (AJHL) 03/28/13
    Cornell University 2015-16 ANGELLO, Anthony C Omaha Lancers (USHL) 12/10/12
    Cornell University 2015-16 OTT, Donovan RW Wenatchee Wild (NAHL) 09/02/12
    Cornell University 2015-16 NUTTLE, Matt RD Sioux Falls Stampede (USHL)

    Dartmouth College 2015-16 ROTH, Cameron LD Cornwall Colts (CCHL) 08/12/14
    Dartmouth College 2015-16 TOOR, Karan RD Prince George Spruce Kings (BCHL) 04/14/14
    Dartmouth College 2015-16 JASIEK, Alex LW Cedar Rapids RoughRiders (USHL) 07/09/13
    Dartmouth College 2015-16 YAU, Connor LD Youngstown Phantoms (USHL) 06/26/13
    Dartmouth College 2015-16 ERNSTING, Jonathan C Chicago Steel (USHL) 07/19/12

    Harvard University 2015-16 OLSON, Jacob LD Hill/Murray HS Pioneers (MN-HS) 05/27/14
    Harvard University 2015-16 DONATO, Ryan C Dexter PS (NEDI) 01/30/14
    Harvard University 2015-16 ZERTER, Lewis C Penticton Vees (BCHL) 12/20/13
    Harvard University 2015-16 FLOODSTRAND, Michael RW USA Under 18 Team (NTDP) 09/25/13
    Harvard University 2015-16 SINCLAIR, Adam C St. Andrew's College HS (CISaa) 03/18/13
    Harvard University 2015-16 DOMBROVSKIY, Victor LD Prince George Spruce Kings (BCHL) 09/02/12

    Princeton University 2015-16 TEVES, Josh D Merritt Centennials (BCHL) 12/02/14
    Princeton University 2015-16 RICHE, Alex C Cobourg Cougars (OJHL) 10/21/14
    Princeton University 2015-16 KRYCZKA, Spencer C Camrose Kodiaks (AJHL) 10/06/14
    Princeton University 2015-16 VERONNEAU, Maximilian RW Gloucester Rangers (CCHL) 03/06/14
    Princeton University 2015-16 KUFFNER, Ryan LW Gloucester Rangers (CCHL) 11/28/13

    Yale University 2015-16 HART, Ted C/RW Phillips Exeter Academy PS (NEDI) 03/24/15
    Yale University 2015-16 PIOTROWSKI, John Michael F Sioux Falls Stampede (USHL) 03/02/15
    Yale University 2015-16 SWEEZEY, Billy RD Noble and Greenough PS (NEDI) 02/02/14
    Yale University 2015-16 CURTI, Charlie LD Cedar Rapids RoughRiders (USHL) 12/02/13
    Yale University 2015-16 DEMONTIS, Robbie C Muskegon Lumberjacks (USHL) 10/30/13
    Yale University 2015-16 WALSH, Anthony LD Sioux City Musketeers (USHL) 09/23/13
    Yale University 2015-16 SMITH, Mitchell LW Dubuque Fighting Saints (USHL) 04/09/13
    Yale University 2015-16 SMITH, Evan C Dubuque Fighting Saints (USHL) 04/09/13
    Yale University 2015-16 D'ORSI, William C St. Sebastian's PS (NEDI) 11/27/12
    Yale University 2015-16 AIBEL, Nolan C Tri-City Storm (USHL) 09/19/12
    Yale University 2015-16 TUCKER, Sam G Choate Rosemary PS (NEDI) 07/19/12
    Yale University 2015-16 GAUS, Andrew RW Cedar Rapids RoughRiders (USHL) 06/27/12
    Yale University 2015-16 SNIVELY, Joseph C Sioux City Musketeers (USHL) 05/09/12
    Yale University 2015-16 DINICOLA, Nicholas F Springfield Pics (USPHL)[/QUOTE]

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    Re: Wisconsin Hockey Recruiting Vol. XXXIV: Go pick me out a winner, Strand

    According to Ryan Kennedy of the hockey news, Caleb Jones would have been a Badger if he didn't sign in the WHL.

    So, that's a nice kick to the groin on a Monday.

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    Re: Wisconsin Hockey Recruiting Vol. XXXIV: Go pick me out a winner, Strand

    A kick in the groin, sure, but at least a somewhat comforting one. Better to know that we were still on his radar and that we can still attract his level of talent.

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