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  • #76
    Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!

    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    I think his Cuba stance is actually smart. Even though most Americans probably think it's time to normalize, they don't care about it at all. OTOH, the dead enders who want to boil Castro in oil because he nationalized grandpappy's sugar plantation care IN ALL CAPS!!!1 And they have money. He loses virtually nothing by stroking those knucks, and he stands to gain a lot of cash.
    Kep I appreciate your optimism, but his position is doom even if he miraculously manages to win the nomination. He then has to do a Rand Paul and start explaining himself in interviews, and a position like this labels him as a Conservasaur. Hell, I think even Floridian Hispanics are in favor of normalizing ties as well as younger Cuban-Americans. Mitt Romney wasn't doomed by 47%. He was doomed by taking a host of positions that he couldn't defend that were opposite of where the voters where despite running against an incumbent facing 8% unemployment. Nobody to the left of Bill Kristol wants to restart the Cold War.
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    • #77
      Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!

      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
      I think his Cuba stance is actually smart. Even though most Americans probably think it's time to normalize, they don't care about it at all. OTOH, the dead enders who want to boil Castro in oil because he nationalized grandpappy's sugar plantation care IN ALL CAPS!!!1 And they have money. He loses virtually nothing by stroking those knucks, and he stands to gain a lot of cash.
      And perhaps a few more had relatives put up against the wall and shot by Fidel, Raoul or Che. That would tend to make one unappreciative of the current Cuban administration.
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      • #78
        Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!

        Originally posted by joecct View Post
        And perhaps a few more had relatives put up against the wall and shot by Fidel, Raoul or Che. That would tend to make one unappreciative of the current Cuban administration.
        Um, no offense but hasn't Che been dead for like...I don't know 50 years or something? You might want to avoid sliding into Opie territory.

        Now I understand the appeal of "lets just wait for the Castros to croak" before re-opening ties, but why not grease the skids a little beforehand instead of dealing with an abrupt change of power most likely due to a death?
        Legally drunk???? If its "legal", what's the ------- problem?!? - George Carlin

        Ever notice how everybody who drives slower than you is an idiot, and everybody who drives faster is a maniac? - George Carlin

        "I've never seen so much reason and bullsh*t contained in ONE MAN."

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        • #79
          Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!

          Originally posted by Rover View Post
          Um, no offense but hasn't Che been dead for like...I don't know 50 years or something? You might want to avoid sliding into Opie territory.

          Now I understand the appeal of "lets just wait for the Castros to croak" before re-opening ties, but why not grease the skids a little beforehand instead of dealing with an abrupt change of power most likely due to a death?
          40 something. But the fact that grandpa (great grandpa?) was shot by the revolution is a factor.
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          5 grandsons (BCA 7/09, CJA 5/14, JDL 8/14, JFL 6/16, PJL 7/18)
          1 granddaughter (EML 4/18)

          ”Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.”
          - Benjamin Franklin

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          • #80
            Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!

            Originally posted by joecct View Post
            40 something. But the fact that grandpa (great grandpa?) was shot by the revolution is a factor.
            So I'm justified to hate the southern states because my great-great uncle was killed at Antietam...

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            • #81
              Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!

              Originally posted by Priceless View Post
              So I'm justified to hate the southern states because my great-great uncle was killed at Antietam...
              No, that's Kepler.

              But seriously, if G-G-U was a soldier, no. If G-G-U was a farmer but was executed for being on the wrong side, yes.
              Last edited by joecct; 04-13-2015, 06:44 PM.
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              4 kids
              5 grandsons (BCA 7/09, CJA 5/14, JDL 8/14, JFL 6/16, PJL 7/18)
              1 granddaughter (EML 4/18)

              ”Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.”
              - Benjamin Franklin

              Banned from the St. Lawrence University Facebook page - March 2016 (But I got better).

              I want to live forever. So far, so good.

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              • #82
                Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!

                Originally posted by joecct View Post
                40 something. But the fact that grandpa (great grandpa?) was shot by the revolution is a factor.
                I can respect that. Obviously the people who supported Castro had similar stories about the prior regime, but an eye for an eye is bad public policy.
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                • #83
                  Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!

                  Originally posted by joecct View Post
                  No, that's Kepler.
                  My great-great uncles were dirt farming in Austria-Hungary, cod fishing in Bergenshalvøyen, or complaining about the heat in Campania when those guys went at it. Not my fight.
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                  • #84
                    Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!

                    Originally posted by joecct View Post
                    No, that's Kepler.

                    But seriously, if G-G-U was a soldier, no. If G-G-U was a farmer but was executed for being on the wrong side, yes.
                    Why does that matter? He was defending this country. They are a bunch of ****ing traitors.

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                    • #85
                      Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!

                      This sht again.
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                      • #86
                        Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!

                        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                        This sht again.
                        To be honest I hope the birthers find a way to disqualify them both. The irony would be delicious.
                        **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

                        Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                        Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                        • #87
                          Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!

                          Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                          To be honest I hope the birthers find a way to disqualify them both. The irony would be delicious.
                          The boomerang is funny -- the GOP has dutch-ovened themselves yet again -- but it's best for us all to drown these loons in the East River along with the rest of the WND crew. We don't need months of the usual eejits screaming "where's the birth certificate?!?" while the important issues are ignored by candidates and media alike. Cruz is a creep and Rubio is a giant step backwards for the country, but let's have them crash and burn on their ideas rather than something this dumb.

                          It would be great if the rest of the GOP field stood up and said "enough of this," the way McCain put the "Obama's a Muslim" nutbars in their place in 2008.
                          Last edited by Kepler; 04-14-2015, 03:57 PM.
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                          • #88
                            Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!

                            Rand Paul had pictures of a bunch of supporters on his website...well...maybe not...

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                            • #89
                              Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!

                              Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                              The boomerang is funny -- the GOP has dutch-ovened themselves yet again -- but it's best for us all to drown these loons in the East River along with the rest of the WND crew. We don't need months of the usual eejits screaming "where's the birth certificate?!?" while the important issues are ignored by candidates and media alike. Cruz is a creep and Rubio is a giant step backwards for the country, but let's have them crash and burn on their ideas rather than something this dumb.

                              It would be great if the rest of the GOP field stood up and said "enough of this," the way McCain put the "Obama's a Muslim" nutbars in their place in 2008.
                              I'd rather them all keep their mouths shut and let it fester. McCain in '08 may have put some in their place but for a large contingent it mattered not.

                              Originally posted by Priceless View Post
                              Rand Paul had pictures of a bunch of supporters on his website...well...maybe not...
                              You would think campaigns would be smarter nowadays. In this social media age you cannot pull this crap anymore.
                              **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

                              Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                              Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                              • #90
                                Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!

                                Originally posted by Priceless View Post
                                Rand Paul had pictures of a bunch of supporters on his website...well...maybe not...
                                LOL. And with his problems it would be Germans. I assumed he just did what most Republicans do and photoshopped in some blacks and women.
                                Last edited by Kepler; 04-14-2015, 04:34 PM.
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