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    Re: RPI 2015 Off Season Thread: Another Long Spring and Summer :(

    Quote Originally Posted by AspyDad View Post
    From the same article: "An equally big focus is the academic standards and community involvement Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute expects from its more than 500 student athletes, McElroy said." Seth excels in this area.

    I agree with you there, but I took McElroy's quotes to mean he will expect results in both areas - wins and academics. The impression I get is that success in only one of these two areas will not meet his expectations.

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    Re: RPI 2015 Off Season Thread: Another Long Spring and Summer :(

    Quote Originally Posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
    "Bringing all programs up" is exactly what I suspected has been happening for the past few years: They're trying to advance football, eventually move the entire school to D-I FCS, and hockey will be left in the dust.
    This makes no sense to me. Maybe the plan is to follow a Colgate/Holy Cross -Patriot League model of D1 hockey and football? Given that McElroy elevated UA sports to D-1, maybe he would try to do that here if he becomes permanent AD. But how would this in any way leave hockey in the dust?

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    Re: RPI 2015 Off Season Thread: Another Long Spring and Summer :(

    Quote Originally Posted by vicious View Post
    This makes no sense to me. Maybe the plan is to follow a Colgate/Holy Cross -Patriot League model of D1 hockey and football? Given that McElroy elevated UA sports to D-1, maybe he would try to do that here if he becomes permanent AD. But how would this in any way leave hockey in the dust?
    It wouldn't. Just little Flaggy looking for attention again by being his typical as$ clown self.

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    Re: RPI 2015 Off Season Thread: Another Long Spring and Summer :(

    Quote Originally Posted by vicious View Post
    This makes no sense to me. Maybe the plan is to follow a Colgate/Holy Cross -Patriot League model of D1 hockey and football? Given that McElroy elevated UA sports to D-1, maybe he would try to do that here if he becomes permanent AD. But how would this in any way leave hockey in the dust?
    If scholarship money is going towards football and basketball, are they going to have enough left for hockey?

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    Re: RPI 2015 Off Season Thread: Another Long Spring and Summer :(

    Quote Originally Posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
    If scholarship money is going towards football and basketball, are they going to have enough left for hockey?
    No one is this stupid. This is an act.
    Keep an open mind. Just don't be so open-minded that your brain falls out.

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    Re: RPI 2015 Off Season Thread: Another Long Spring and Summer :(

    Quote Originally Posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
    If scholarship money is going towards football and basketball, are they going to have enough left for hockey?
    Maybe McElroy will step up fundraising.

    I think things will get figured out. No AD would coming here is going to take steps to decimate the hockey program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Cloud View Post
    No one is this stupid. This is an act.
    Is that why the administration pushes homecoming to be during football season when we're lucky if there's an exhibition game for hockey, and doesn't push it to be during Freakout?

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    Re: RPI 2015 Off Season Thread: Another Long Spring and Summer :(

    Quote Originally Posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
    Is that why the administration pushes homecoming to be during football season when we're lucky if there's an exhibition game for hockey, and doesn't push it to be during Freakout?
    No one is this stupid! This is an act.

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    Re: RPI 2015 Off Season Thread: Another Long Spring and Summer :(

    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Baer View Post
    I too am concerend about the health of several of the class of '18, but there is a lot of talent there. As to the sophs, I think that Reno is the most talnted but has been having trouble making the lineup. Bourbonnais also showed noteworthy ability at times.

    To be picky, Z would have been a junior.
    I forgot that Zalewski left after his sophomore year. Thanks for the correction.
    Reno is the forgotten man on this team he had trouble getting on the ice the second half of both his seasons at RPI. I don't know just what the issue is. I agree that he has talent, and seemed to play OK most of the time. It could be a case of not particiapting in the offense enough, much like Koudys. Bourbonnais is another one who has had a couple of good games, but no consistency. That seems to be a recurring theme with this program. It may just be that there is not as much talent on this team as many on this thread believe. Because Nanne and Melanson lost significant chunks of the season and the team often played shorthanded due to inuries and suspensions, I think we have to give the frosh another year. They seem to be as talented a group as we've seen in the past few years. Let's hope those coming in next fall are as good. LGR!

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    Re: RPI 2015 Off Season Thread: Another Long Spring and Summer :(

    A look at the final statistics. Clik on school for more stats....clik on “Pick other Stats Page” for more in depth look. A lot of discussion, rightfully so, has been made regarding FO. RPI finished @ 42.9%......next to last. PU was last @ 41.9%. Bubela was the only player with a + rating...+2. KennyG was at 0 https://www.collegehockeynews.com/stats/#adv

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    Re: RPI 2015 Off Season Thread: Another Long Spring and Summer :(

    Quote Originally Posted by turk181 View Post
    A look at the final statistics. Clik on school for more stats....clik on “Pick other Stats Page” for more in depth look. A lot of discussion, rightfully so, has been made regarding FO. RPI finished @ 42.9%......next to last. PU was last @ 41.9%. Bubela was the only player with a + rating...+2. KennyG was at 0 https://www.collegehockeynews.com/stats/#adv
    Taking a look at the Corsi AND Fenwick shot percentage during the power play, second worst only to Alabama Huntsville. The power play has been absolutely atrocious with both Graham AND Monty at the helm of the attack. Who makes the final approval of the general plans...

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    Agreed.

    There was discussion about 10-12 years ago regarding a Div 1AA move with football and the other sports that included both a non-scholarship model and a CAA model with limited scholarships in football. That would likely leave sports other than football, basketball and hockey with very few scholarships. With the poor financial climate facing RPI right now, I can't see them investing million$ to move all sports to Div 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasma View Post
    I forgot that Zalewski left after his sophomore year. Thanks for the correction.
    Reno is the forgotten man on this team he had trouble getting on the ice the second half of both his seasons at RPI. I don't know just what the issue is. I agree that he has talent, and seemed to play OK most of the time. It could be a case of not particiapting in the offense enough, much like Koudys. Bourbonnais is another one who has had a couple of good games, but no consistency. That seems to be a recurring theme with this program. It may just be that there is not as much talent on this team as many on this thread believe. Because Nanne and Melanson lost significant chunks of the season and the team often played shorthanded due to inuries and suspensions, I think we have to give the frosh another year. They seem to be as talented a group as we've seen in the past few years. Let's hope those coming in next fall are as good. LGR!
    Perhaps SA isnít such a great as a recruiter as we give him credit to be. Have the players coming in reached their ceiling by the time they arrive? That might explain why the Sr. classes seem to always be the least productive....with the exception of Polacek & that class. Of course, losing players like Haggs, Z, JDíA, Pirri & Yorkie before Sr. year hurts. Year after year of losing wonít help either. Most of these players come in from winning Teams. I would think it takes itís toll.

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    Re: RPI 2015 Off Season Thread: Another Long Spring and Summer :(

    Quote Originally Posted by Jasma View Post
    Agreed.

    There was discussion about 10-12 years ago regarding a Div 1AA move with football and the other sports that included both a non-scholarship model and a CAA model with limited scholarships in football. That would likely leave sports other than football, basketball and hockey with very few scholarships. With the poor financial climate facing RPI right now, I can't see them investing million$ to move all sports to Div 1.
    There was a lot of discussion here. It isn't clear how much there actually was at the 'Tute.

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    Re: RPI 2015 Off Season Thread: Another Long Spring and Summer :(

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    Re: RPI 2015 Off Season Thread: Another Long Spring and Summer :(

    Quote Originally Posted by turk181 View Post
    A look at the final statistics. Clik on school for more stats....clik on “Pick other Stats Page” for more in depth look. A lot of discussion, rightfully so, has been made regarding FO. RPI finished @ 42.9%......next to last. PU was last @ 41.9%. Bubela was the only player with a + rating...+2. KennyG was at 0 https://www.collegehockeynews.com/stats/#adv
    Turk-Although i almost always agree with you-please pay attention to that meaningless +/- statistic. Because SA pulled the goalie so often and so often, and because we have no clue how to make use of an extra attacker, and because our most potent line was usually on the ice for that last minute when the opposition scored 1 or 2 empty net goals-some players stats were grossly altered. I wish there was an easy way to see what the +/- number would be for players if you took out any empty net goals scored against us. Some of the other stats were very telling. One line(MNM) seemed to have the best percentage of goals/shots by far. The face off numb ers from those that took a lot of them were abysmal except for JL.
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    Re: RPI 2015 Off Season Thread: Another Long Spring and Summer :(

    Quote Originally Posted by turk181 View Post
    Perhaps SA isn’t such a great as a recruiter as we give him credit to be. Have the players coming in reached their ceiling by the time they arrive? That might explain why the Sr. classes seem to always be the least productive....with the exception of Polacek & that class. Of course, losing players like Haggs, Z, JD’A, Pirri & Yorkie before Sr. year hurts. Year after year of losing won’t help either. Most of these players come in from winning Teams. I would think it takes it’s toll.
    Appert's a good recruiter. He's also good at developing goaltending talent. All credit must be given where credit is due. Where I am concerned with Appert's performance is in terms of tactics and bench coaching. Expecting Appert to focus on specific facets of the game is unreasonable (that's why assistant coaches exist), but he IS responsible for a general team strategy, getting the players to buy into what's being sold, and being able to tweak what is happening at ice-time in order to better the team's chances. We haven't seen good things on those three points, and that is why a number of the players seem to "peak".

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    Re: RPI 2015 Off Season Thread: Another Long Spring and Summer :(

    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Baer View Post
    There was a lot of discussion here. It isn't clear how much there actually was at the 'Tute.
    There was some discussion at the cabinet level, but you're right, it is hard to tell how seriously it was considered.I tmight have been fun to see that move happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrDemento View Post
    Turk-Although i almost always agree with you-please pay attention to that meaningless +/- statistic. Because SA pulled the goalie so often and so often, and because we have no clue how to make use of an extra attacker, and because our most potent line was usually on the ice for that last minute when the opposition scored 1 or 2 empty net goals-some players stats were grossly altered. I wish there was an easy way to see what the +/- number would be for players if you took out any empty net goals scored against us. Some of the other stats were very telling. One line(MNM) seemed to have the best percentage of goals/shots by far. The face off numb ers from those that took a lot of them were abysmal except for JL.
    Actually, I agree with you on the +/-. As Eddie O says, the plus/minus is used by agents to get more money for their clients. So why did I use it?.....I don’t know (that’s Doc Emerick).

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    Re: RPI 2015 Off Season Thread: Another Long Spring and Summer :(

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    Apparently someone is, if they're recommending homecoming to be held during February in Troy....
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